Lunenburg school talks hit a snag - Sentinel & Enterprise

Members of the Regional Planning Committee tasked with exploring opportunities for merging with the North Middlesex Regional School District say they're frustrated with the pace of state officials, who have promised cost estimates for scenarios that solve the town's facilities crunch. Full Story
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inquiry

Acton, MA

#43 Jan 10, 2011
Blogenburgian wrote:
Hey "Inquiry" I think you are suffering from "Call BS disease". I'll take this one step at a time where even Call seems to be able to follow along.
So answer this question: How much in transition funds did state rep Benson, and Senators Flanagan and Eldridge go to the State House requesting and get rejected for? two million?
I'm pretty sure the Ayer-Shirley district asked for about 300K and will receive it over a two year period as stated in the transition plan for the trnasition year and the first year of the new district.
Blogenburgian

Clinton, MA

#44 Jan 10, 2011
inquiry wrote:
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I'm pretty sure the Ayer-Shirley district asked for about 300K and will receive it over a two year period as stated in the transition plan for the trnasition year and the first year of the new district.
Can you explain To "Call BS" in simple terms how Ayer -Shirley managed to reduce the 1.8M tri-town transition costs down to 300k? I would assume that they actually went back and applied realiism to it. But keep it simple for Call and his freinds.
Blogenburgian

Clinton, MA

#45 Jan 10, 2011
call BS wrote:
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Ah yes, more of Blahgo's creative reinvention of reality...
MSBA/DESE calling the tune demanding regionalization be explored after the Lunenburg school committee said they did not think it would be worth pursuing.
BOS has no say unless you want them to just say no to any MSBA funding and have local taxes pay for any HS renovations. Costly expense to assuage your ego Blahgo.
OK Call, so you answered question 2: No one with any ability to interpret the law reviewed the formation of the Luneburg-NMRS regionalization planning committee.

So now for question 3: WHo appoints a regional planning committee. The towns SC or the Town Moderator??
call BS

AOL

#46 Jan 11, 2011
Blogenburgian wrote:
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OK Call, so you answered question 2: No one with any ability to interpret the law reviewed the formation of the Luneburg-NMRS regionalization planning committee.
So now for question 3: WHo appoints a regional planning committee. The towns SC or the Town Moderator??
Actually Blahgo I answered question 2 with the fact that the regionalization committee was established by town meeting to study regionalization with no definition or restriction of which potential regions to explore. Spend your own money to legally interpret that, leave my tax dollars alone.
I'll add anyone could have added a limitation at that or subsequent town meetings. No one has. No one has requested the committee be disbanded either-except you here in a meaningless fashion.
Question 3? I don't know who appoints-I thoight it was the SC, but could be wrong. Are you claiming now that someone was appointed improperly? Or just talking?
call BS

AOL

#47 Jan 11, 2011
Blogenburgian wrote:
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Can you explain To "Call BS" in simple terms how Ayer -Shirley managed to reduce the 1.8M tri-town transition costs down to 300k? I would assume that they actually went back and applied realiism to it. But keep it simple for Call and his freinds.
Blahgo, if you don't understand it, why involve me or my friends as you perceive them to be?

You found the 3 town transition plan, I'd imagine you could find the 2 town version and compare.
Here's some hints, consider teacher salary equalization, Ch 70 apportionments and local funding ratios, transportation and the doubled complexity of consolidation.

Or just assume as that seems to work best for you at the expense of logic.

When done explain if you are for or against regionalization in general or if dependent on potential partner?
jigga what

Shirley, MA

#48 Jan 11, 2011
Many of the same systems such as student info systems and technology systems were nearly identical and required little to no major changes where Lunenburg was using different systems. Also, with one fewer district in the mix, all the admin positions which would have been redundant for the first year was not needed, so those items quickly add up apparently to that 1.8 number.
Blogenburgian wrote:
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Can you explain To "Call BS" in simple terms how Ayer -Shirley managed to reduce the 1.8M tri-town transition costs down to 300k? I would assume that they actually went back and applied realiism to it. But keep it simple for Call and his freinds.
inquiry

Acton, MA

#49 Jan 11, 2011
jigga what wrote:
Many of the same systems such as student info systems and technology systems were nearly identical and required little to no major changes where Lunenburg was using different systems. Also, with one fewer district in the mix, all the admin positions which would have been redundant for the first year was not needed, so those items quickly add up apparently to that 1.8 number.
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Also, Ayer and Shirley were already sharing students which made the process that much less complicated. When you added a third town into the mix te transition into a region became more complicated because of student record systems, sped recording systems, transportation, etc.
Blogenburgian

Clinton, MA

#50 Jan 11, 2011
call BS wrote:
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Blahgo, if you don't understand it, why involve me or my friends as you perceive them to be?
You found the 3 town transition plan, I'd imagine you could find the 2 town version and compare.
Here's some hints, consider teacher salary equalization, Ch 70 apportionments and local funding ratios, transportation and the doubled complexity of consolidation.
Or just assume as that seems to work best for you at the expense of logic.
When done explain if you are for or against regionalization in general or if dependent on potential partner?
Interesting that all of the above was supposed to hold true for the NMRS deal and now there are significant transition costs. Lets just face it, when A-S decided to go it alone they gutted they plan the way it should have been reviewed and gutted with the three town proposal. Five superintendents serving at once was preposterous.
reading

Lincoln, MA

#51 Jan 11, 2011
Blogenburgian wrote:
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Interesting that all of the above was supposed to hold true for the NMRS deal and now there are significant transition costs. Lets just face it, when A-S decided to go it alone they gutted they plan the way it should have been reviewed and gutted with the three town proposal. Five superintendents serving at once was preposterous.
When were there ever supposed to be five superintendents? That doesn't even sound right. From what I have seen, once the region (Ayer-Shirley) begins July 1, 2011 there will be one superintendent. Where are you getting the number 5? It doesn't even make sense.
Blogenburgian

Clinton, MA

#53 Jan 12, 2011
reading wrote:
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When were there ever supposed to be five superintendents? That doesn't even sound right. From what I have seen, once the region (Ayer-Shirley) begins July 1, 2011 there will be one superintendent. Where are you getting the number 5? It doesn't even make sense.
fIVE WAS THE ORIGINAL A-L-S region. All super employed plus hiring a regional superintendent and deputy super.
inquiry

Acton, MA

#54 Jan 13, 2011
Blogenburgian wrote:
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fIVE WAS THE ORIGINAL A-L-S region. All super employed plus hiring a regional superintendent and deputy super.
Wrong. One superintendent for the full region was to be hired. There may have been a business manage/finacial manage position that could have been called a "deputy" but otherwise no one knows what you're talking about re 5. Ayer-Shirley will have one super and one business manager once the region starts this coming summer.
Blogenburgian

Clinton, MA

#55 Jan 14, 2011
inquiry wrote:
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Wrong. One superintendent for the full region was to be hired. There may have been a business manage/finacial manage position that could have been called a "deputy" but otherwise no one knows what you're talking about re 5. Ayer-Shirley will have one super and one business manager once the region starts this coming summer.


You must of gone to the "Call BS" school of reading dynamics, Read the ALS transition plan or elaborate sticky note!
inquiry

Acton, MA

#56 Jan 20, 2011
Blogenburgian wrote:
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You must of gone to the "Call BS" school of reading dynamics, Read the ALS transition plan or elaborate sticky note!
I did. You're wrong.

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