Lunenburg school talks hit a snag - Sentinel & Enterprise

Members of the Regional Planning Committee tasked with exploring opportunities for merging with the North Middlesex Regional School District say they're frustrated with the pace of state officials, who have promised cost estimates for scenarios that solve the town's facilities crunch. Full Story
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Mellon271

Boston, MA

#1 Nov 30, 2010
egh, what a waste of time. jumping through hoops so we can get our fair share from the state. Joining NMRS is a political non-starter. Time for Benson to show us the money.
Schools

Lowell, MA

#2 Nov 30, 2010
Forget sending my children to N. Middlesex. We don't want them riding on school buses for an hour. We moved to Lunenburg for the current school system.

We will go school choice if they pull this off
Daniel

Ashburnham, MA

#3 Nov 30, 2010
Where will you school choice to that is a shorter commute or a better school?

Both schools need some serious work, and the local taxpayers don't have the money for the full cost.

I hope they keep looking at their options. If it will save the taxpayer money long term and give students a good school, they should go ahead with it.
Old approach to problem

Andover, MA

#4 Nov 30, 2010
Reconfigure NMRS district and include the Lunenburg
folks. We have an elementary school that is almost
empty in Townsend and a school that is empty in
Pepperell - why would you want to incur more cost when the buildings are already there. Just re-arrange the grades put 10,11,12 at the HS and put
9th grade in the middle schools etc... Make believe
the cost was coming from your pocket ... because it is.
Blogenburgian

Clinton, MA

#5 Nov 30, 2010
I don't see the rush with the MSBA. They know Lunenburgs tactics by now. Sounds like the NMRS sub-committee is also tired of Lburgs domination.
Lunenburg has dragged this school project out and changed the scope by going completely off course for nearly ten years. Stop acting like the frustration belongs anywhere but with the Lburg gang. Take your time MSBA, no ones in a rush to regionalize here and if we don't we have the same pulling needles out of our eyes watching them manage a renewed in-own effort. Lets face it no need to worry as this is never going to get done.
Wrong

Pepperell, MA

#6 Nov 30, 2010
Daniel wrote:
If it will save the taxpayer money long term and give students a good school, they should go ahead with it.
That's precisely the problem with this proposal. Over the long term, it will leave the towns with unfunded liabilities...increased transportation costs due to an expanded region, increased staffing expenses due to the equalization of teachers' compensation, the addition of MORE administrators and, of course, an increase to their compensation. The state has never funded the 100% transportation costs initially offered to districts as an incentive to regionalize. Factor in the financial burden of special ed. funding which has never received full support from the state either. State support has been eroding year after year.

The NMRSD is already in dire financial straits due to the bloated compensation contracted to central office staff (notably, the superintendent), which has prompted Marshall to "share her services" (and that of her central office staff) with Quabbin (so as to preserve her full compensation and that of the cronies she brought with her from Quabbin.) Count on the NMRSD music program, and other student programs, to be put on the chopping block once again this spring, to preserve the district admin. staff and its ridiculous compensation (who led the contract discussions on these folks, Arnie?)

And what of the "urgent matter" of attending to the structural deficiencies and failing heating system of the high school, which necessitated this urgent merger discussion? Seems like most of the NMRSD school committee members were hoodwinked once again by the good doctor, as they continue to sit on their hands with no Plan B in sight. Yes, guess you can wait for the state to bail you out...or, you can actually do your "due diligence" by exploring alternatives to what was touted as such an "urgent" need.

Good luck on getting taxpayers to ante up more money to build a new high school, while schools remain vacant and residents continue to lose their jobs, and, worse yet, their homes. As with many of the good doctor's proposals, this one is destined for "never never land"...along with Expanded Learning Time and International Baccalaureate, and, oh yes, the "closure" (or not so much) of Peter Fitzpatrick School.
School Choice

Lowell, MA

#7 Dec 1, 2010
If my kids are going to be on a bus for an hour, I'll drive them to Harvard (school chose). I went grades 1 thru 12 at NMRS. ... Thanks, but forget it.
HMMM

Worcester, MA

#8 Dec 1, 2010
School Choice wrote:
If my kids are going to be on a bus for an hour, I'll drive them to Harvard (school chose). I went grades 1 thru 12 at NMRS.... Thanks, but forget it.
By "chose" do you mean CHOICE !?????????
Interesting

Waltham, MA

#9 Dec 1, 2010
Schools wrote:
Forget sending my children to N. Middlesex. We don't want them riding on school buses for an hour. We moved to Lunenburg for the current school system.
We will go school choice if they pull this off
You moved to Lunenburg for the school system haha, that's funny. They have never had a good school system once upon a time they didn't even have accreditation.
Interesting

Waltham, MA

#10 Dec 1, 2010
Lunenburg had an ideal offer with Ayer and Shirley, but they're too good for those towns now they're dragging their feet on joining NMRSD and hoping the state doesn't approve it so they can get a new school in their precious community. I wish all the Lunenburg elite the best in this process (kidding) you will get what is deserved. Last time I was there, this fall I noticed the crumbling walls. Should have taken the opportunity you had in the first, they would probably be breaking ground to construct the new building for Ayer-Lunenburg-Shirley had you decided it was in everyone's best interest. Oh well good luck though.
no room

Acton, MA

#11 Dec 1, 2010
School Choice wrote:
If my kids are going to be on a bus for an hour, I'll drive them to Harvard (school chose). I went grades 1 thru 12 at NMRS.... Thanks, but forget it.
No room in Harvard...sorry
Blogenburgian

Clinton, MA

#12 Dec 1, 2010
Interesting wrote:
Lunenburg had an ideal offer with Ayer and Shirley, but they're too good for those towns now they're dragging their feet on joining NMRSD and hoping the state doesn't approve it so they can get a new school in their precious community. I wish all the Lunenburg elite the best in this process (kidding) you will get what is deserved. Last time I was there, this fall I noticed the crumbling walls. Should have taken the opportunity you had in the first, they would probably be breaking ground to construct the new building for Ayer-Lunenburg-Shirley had you decided it was in everyone's best interest. Oh well good luck though.


It was your Shirley Superintendent that put together the fictious Transition Cost Plan of 2 million dollars with 5 acting Superintendents. Blame the inner groupies of regionalists that blew the AYS deal which included your own Superintendent. I believe this one was foiled to perserve all of the Supers jobs, the buddy league kicked in support.
Now with the NRHS deal no jobs are threatened, in fact Lburgs Super could get a nice Assist Supers job and probably a big pay raise. Now thats a deal the buddy league can support.
Interesting

Lincoln, MA

#13 Dec 4, 2010
Blogenburgian doesn't know what he/she's talking about and I pitty the fool.

It really is too bad the state could not help to fund the transitional cost of merging 3 districts into one (they were real costs. Look them up) and the three town board together had to make the difficult decision to not move forward. After over three years of their hard work, that was dissappointing for them as well as the town citizens.
Blogenburgian

Clinton, MA

#14 Dec 4, 2010
Interesting wrote:
Blogenburgian doesn't know what he/she's talking about and I pitty the fool.
It really is too bad the state could not help to fund the transitional cost of merging 3 districts into one (they were real costs. Look them up) and the three town board together had to make the difficult decision to not move forward. After over three years of their hard work, that was dissappointing for them as well as the town citizens.
No pitty here, just a bunch of illegal activity by town appointed boards, state reps and. Senators with no experiance bringing a bogus plan to Capital Hill. Pretty Pathetic.
some thoughts

Leominster, MA

#15 Dec 4, 2010
The Shirley superintendent was a temporary position until a decision was made on whether or not to regionalize. Even if Shirley did not regionalize, the acting supreintendent was not going to put his name in for the job. He had just retired from Boxboro (I think) when he took the transition position in Shirley.
Call BS

AOL

#16 Dec 5, 2010
Blogenburgian wrote:
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No pitty here, just a bunch of illegal activity by town appointed boards, state reps and. Senators with no experiance bringing a bogus plan to Capital Hill. Pretty Pathetic.
So what was the illegal activity Blahgo?
You love to throw unsubstantiated allegations out there with no back up, apparently just for fun no matter the potential damage done to the reputations of the people who are actually willing to do something for their towns and not just whine behind their keyboards.
Blogenburgian

Clinton, MA

#17 Dec 5, 2010
Call BS wrote:
<quoted text>
So what was the illegal activity Blahgo?
You love to throw unsubstantiated allegations out there with no back up, apparently just for fun no matter the potential damage done to the reputations of the people who are actually willing to do something for their towns and not just whine behind their keyboards.
Call, where have you been?? And you criticize me for name calling and then call me names. You liberals! How about building a fictious transition plan. How about state reps and senators bringing the bogus plan to capitol hill. How about not meeting the requirements under MGL of a Regional planning committee. How about forming a NMRS planning committee outside of MGL.
WHy don't we have our CAFo audit what went on and stamp the transition plan and what's gone on since as ligit?? In fact no audit firm would sign off on that plan. Why not hire an auditinf firm to look what went on and whats going on and sign off on it as ligit??
Blogenburgian

Clinton, MA

#18 Dec 5, 2010
Interesting wrote:
Blogenburgian doesn't know what he/she's talking about and I pitty the fool.
It really is too bad the state could not help to fund the transitional cost of merging 3 districts into one (they were real costs. Look them up) and the three town board together had to make the difficult decision to not move forward. After over three years of their hard work, that was dissappointing for them as well as the town citizens.
Ahh was it really the three town boards reponsibility "to make the decision"?? It was their obligations to bring a recommendation to their respective selectmen. Oh which LBurgs RPC did not, until they had there arms twisted. They brought "we recommend not to recommend"> What sort of action is that. Two bad our town board, state rep and RPC were all in bed with each other.
call BS

AOL

#19 Dec 6, 2010
Blogenburgian wrote:
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Call, where have you been?? And you criticize me for name calling and then call me names. You liberals! How about building a fictious transition plan. How about state reps and senators bringing the bogus plan to capitol hill. How about not meeting the requirements under MGL of a Regional planning committee. How about forming a NMRS planning committee outside of MGL.
WHy don't we have our CAFo audit what went on and stamp the transition plan and what's gone on since as ligit?? In fact no audit firm would sign off on that plan. Why not hire an auditinf firm to look what went on and whats going on and sign off on it as ligit??
Where did I call you a name? Blahgo? I didn't mention name calling, I called you out for being a liar and for smearing people who actually put some work into their town(s).
And again I ask, where are the illegalities you claim? The NMRS planning committee and any other that the state could push us into was approved at Lunenburg town meeting-you may not like it, but its true.
Maybe you should get off your couch and put an article on spring town meeting to rescind authorization for the school committee to explore regionalization and turn away MSBA funds and put the entire burden of a future school project on local property taxes if you feel so strongly about it.
The CAFO/Town Manager (welcome to 2010) has no legal standing to audit any school related budget, spending or plan. By law. MGL. Heck, town meeting can't impose line item oversight to the school budget, we only vote a bottom line number. By law. MGL.
Are you an auditor? How do you know what an audit firm would do?
Just because in your uninformed opinion it was "bogus" doesn't make it so.
Blogenburgian

Clinton, MA

#20 Dec 6, 2010
call BS wrote:
<quoted text>
Where did I call you a name? Blahgo? I didn't mention name calling, I called you out for being a liar and for smearing people who actually put some work into their town(s).
And again I ask, where are the illegalities you claim? The NMRS planning committee and any other that the state could push us into was approved at Lunenburg town meeting-you may not like it, but its true.
Maybe you should get off your couch and put an article on spring town meeting to rescind authorization for the school committee to explore regionalization and turn away MSBA funds and put the entire burden of a future school project on local property taxes if you feel so strongly about it.
The CAFO/Town Manager (welcome to 2010) has no legal standing to audit any school related budget, spending or plan. By law. MGL. Heck, town meeting can't impose line item oversight to the school budget, we only vote a bottom line number. By law. MGL.

Are you an auditor? How do you know what an audit firm would do?
Just because in your uninformed opinion it was "bogus" doesn't make it so.
Call, Call, Call the name calling boy. Blahgo, liar??

Call you’re the one with no facts and encouraging the continuing of illegal acts.
Start by reading MGL
One, Town meeting authorized a Regional Planning Committee; there are no plurals in Committee. When the Committee recommended not to recommend their job was done.
Two, If another planning committee was required it should have been brought to Town Meeting. Obviously from your statements about the CAFO know one has bothered to run this by Town Council and get a legal opinion.
Three, Another thing you are wrong are is that the RPC reports to the School or School Committee. They report to the Selectboard not the School. The Selectboard has the CAFO and Town Council as their resources.
Four, Only problem is Keeling, Alonzo, Benson and it looks like Matthews are all in cahoots. That’s an open meeting law violation to B.S.
I made it easy for ya. Please address One – Four with facts, back it up with documented audits and town council opinion.

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