Tough times predicted - Sentinel & En...

Tough times predicted - Sentinel & Enterprise

There are 38 comments on the Sentinel & Enterprise story from Oct 4, 2010, titled Tough times predicted - Sentinel & Enterprise. In it, Sentinel & Enterprise reports that:

Opponents of a push to cut the state sales tax from 6.25 percent to 3 percent have warned that it will take police officers off the streets and teachers out of classrooms.

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bleh

Northborough, MA

#25 Oct 4, 2010
This little vid by Alan Grayson will make you sufficiently sick.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www...

The Democrats share equal share of this mess. This is not a partisan issue.

And about the state sales taxes - cut em back down
Jay

Westminster, MA

#26 Oct 4, 2010
Time for the ROLLBACK
Allota

Leominster, MA

#27 Oct 4, 2010
bleh wrote:
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I'll agree with the whole "wealthy have been shifting the tax burden onto the middle class and keeping the difference from circulating into the greater economy" thing - but how does this repressive MA sales tax address this? By hurting border businesses, and costing the lower middle class more?
This will do nothing to address the local budget crises that will be hitting your town in fiscal 2011. It's time for government to shrink back down to a manageable level
Overly simplistic. Tax cut is not a magic formula for effeciency. No one has been able to list what can be cut to compensate for the revenue loss, other than that vague "waste and abuse" tripe. That means we homeowning middle class will have to shoulder more of the tax burden of the wealthy with prop 2-1/2 overrides.

Are you aware that most of the funding for Carla Howells group comes from out of state?

Border business will continue to hurt with the economic damage it will cause. Less people working, less money to spend.
Leominster Resident

Worcester, MA

#28 Oct 4, 2010
Why is it when there needs to be cut backs, it's always the teachers and police that are cut first?

Why shouldn't the big wigs have there pay reduced and there rate be a realisic one equivalent to everyone elses? Pay is what on the average $10.00 hr and pay what, 60-40 on insurance? It's not jealousy it's being realistic.

Deval is having commercials lobbing for Education. Hmmm Deval your to late, damage is already done. Job stimulas bill still didn't put in atiquete amounts of teachers.

Ma. priorities are so screwed up! USA used to be a force to recond with, now were just a joke. Why? Priorities people, priorites!
bleh

Fitchburg, MA

#29 Oct 4, 2010
Your nonsensical post saddens me. And you have to vote for that override. Are you going to vote for it? Forget I asked - but know this: WE'RE FREAKING DOOMED
HumBug

Worcester, MA

#30 Oct 4, 2010
Look at the nonsense in the FY2011 State Budget. THis program, that program,$2M here,$10M there, it all adds up. Heck, the cost of maintaining the legislature is over $50M per year We're talking about $29.4 BILLION per year. So, the State takes in a lot of money and wastes a lot of money. With 3% sales tax they can fund Dept of Corrections, State Police and other essential services. Sure, some of those touchy-feely social programs and $ for the social engineering the State so much loves to do,

http://www.mass.gov/bb/gaa/fy2011/

I much prefer the NH model..low general taxes and high local taxes. I want my tax money used in my Town. I don't want my money confiscated from me, then 70% coming back to my Town so Lawrence can get bailed out.

As someone noted earlier, if the Sales Tax were cut they would just raise other taxes to get the same $29.5Billion they feel they need to run the State.

Wouldn't one think a State of this size and population could be run with a measly $20 Billion? Still a ton of money in opinion,
bleh

Fitchburg, MA

#32 Oct 4, 2010
And again, how does all this translate into allota's theory of "the wealthy have been shifting the tax burden onto the middle class and keeping the difference from circulating into the greater economy."

Well it doesn't really. This would be a tax cut for the lower middle class, but anyways...

The Sky Is Falling

Fitchburg, MA

#33 Oct 5, 2010
Chief Barrett in Ashburnham can just take one of the speed traps off on weekday mornings. What better stream of income than ticketing employed taxpayers trying to get to work. Well chief, its looks like that radar outreach or should I call it K Band policing is really going to pay off for us, the maggots who pay your bloated salary. Maybe you can run the radar on Sunday mornings and ticket the seniors on their way to mass instead? Don't forget to temm them to "Have A Nice Day."
George

Westminster, MA

#34 Oct 5, 2010
Wow better vote down briggs school the town cant evewn keep thier police dept.
MarketRate

United States

#35 Oct 5, 2010
bleh wrote:
And again, how does all this translate into allota's theory of "the wealthy have been shifting the tax burden onto the middle class and keeping the difference from circulating into the greater economy."
Well it doesn't really. This would be a tax cut for the lower middle class, but anyways...
Yeah, right. Products that are selling at current prices will be cheaper when tax free? The retailers know what people will pay, who says they have to pass on the tax reduction to consumers?

This initiative is a giveaway for retailers, a burden for homeowners, a pink slip for teachers, cops, firefighters, and more of the same for the working poor.

Since: Oct 07

Fitchburg, MA

#36 Oct 5, 2010
Mike wrote:
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I'd love to see research that backs up this assertion, because if you're wrong and my wife (a teacher) loses her job for it, my family is in serious trouble.
Stop accepting the scare tactic. They are threatening to lay off teachers, police and firefighters just to scare you and make you do what they want instead of them having to do what you want.
Opponents of a push to cut the state sales tax from 6.25 percent to 3 percent have warned that it will take police officers off the streets and teachers out of classrooms.
Is this boogeyman getting old to anyone else? I'm really getting sick of "If you don't let us take away more of your money we will punish you by laying off Teachers, Police, and Firefighters". The last time we were warned that if taxes were cut that Teachers, Police, and Firefighters would get laid off and people stupidly voted to keep the income tax. Guess what happened? Teachers, Police and Firefighters got laid off anyway. It's nothing but a boogyman and a scare tactic. It's to make you do what they want so they don't have to do what you want. Namely cut the give away programs that they use to buy votes.
LoLBama wrote:
Funny under the current admin thousands of teachers have already lost their jobs and the old campaign promise of putting 1000 more cops on the streets, ahahahahahaha where are they it's been 4yrs and waiting. These scare tactics will not work this time.
You misunderstood. When he said he would put 1000 cops on the street he meant he would put 1000 cops out on the street.
bleh

Northborough, MA

#37 Oct 5, 2010
here ya go, assorted psychopaths, morons and mental defectives:
http://www.uncommonwisdomdaily.com/excuse-me-...
truth

Quinebaug, CT

#38 Oct 5, 2010
Allota wrote:
Sure is a lot of BS flying around this thread.
If tax cuts created jobs we should be up to our necks in jobs from the tax cuts of the past decade.
Maybe the conventional wisdom should be "tax cuts create asset bubbles and subsequent recessions".
no, your not paying attention. the previous tax "cuts" were to bush's rich buddies to take more jobs overseeas, these are not real tax cuts. we need to repeal those custs and give real cuts to real people, that stimulates the economy. and while we are at it we should create a large tax for companies that take jobs overseas, not reward them.
truth

Quinebaug, CT

#39 Oct 5, 2010
MarketRate wrote:
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Yeah, right. Products that are selling at current prices will be cheaper when tax free? The retailers know what people will pay, who says they have to pass on the tax reduction to consumers?
This initiative is a giveaway for retailers, a burden for homeowners, a pink slip for teachers, cops, firefighters, and more of the same for the working poor.
you are obviously one on the take from these taxes, statee worker are ya? listen, last time they did this they said the same thing, they rasied taxed, cust jobs and we are now even worse off. stop lying to save your bloated paycehck and pension you receive for doing nothing, if mass got rid of all of you and the welfare losers we would be a very rich state
MarketRate

United States

#40 Oct 5, 2010
truth wrote:
<quoted text>you are obviously one on the take from these taxes, statee worker are ya? listen, last time they did this they said the same thing, they rasied taxed, cust jobs and we are now even worse off. stop lying to save your bloated paycehck and pension you receive for doing nothing, if mass got rid of all of you and the welfare losers we would be a very rich state
You obviously own a walmart. You want this to pass so you can charge the same and pocket the difference.

Soaking the poor for your own greed. This state would be better off without people like you exploiting the system for your own greed.

That "attack the messenger" stuff is great!

Is there a provision in the initiative that mandates a 3% reduction in prices? No? Why not?
wow

Westminster, MA

#41 Oct 5, 2010
Were voting YES YES YES, i care less what the statwe says Im sick of these sponges.
Tom

Leominster, MA

#43 Oct 8, 2010
wow wrote:
Were voting YES YES YES, i care less what the statwe says Im sick of these sponges.
Thank you for your shortsightedness and ignorance. Although not refreshing, it was expected.
tomsu_x

Northborough, MA

#44 Oct 8, 2010
game over America , thank you for playing.

(we are so screw_ed)

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