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lovely

Rockport, MA

#21 Dec 11, 2010
The children in this town deserve a new school, no doubt. But, here we go again. Sentences such as, "The current oil system uses 26 gallons per hour on the coldest winter days." (oil). What are the coldest winter days? Five degrees or 25 degrees? So, this automatically justifies biomass heat. One of the biggest proponents and major faces in this project works for New England Wood Pellet. While he is a great guy, this appears as a conflict of interest to me seeing as how the company he works for stands to make significant dollars off of the project. Also, they are going to have Pre-K classes. Won't this raise our taxes when we have to pay for those teachers in the classes? I am sure the state mandates those Pre-K classe, but that is more money again. Can't wait for the 2.5% override every year coming after the school is approved. I am looking into moving as this town continues to cost entirely too much for the services it provides.$4,000 a year to rent land is just too much for me. Private water, septic, pay for trash pick-up, street plowed-maybe. Not too mention the $65,000 a year that many of the teachers make in this town, then complain about their health costs etc. Pick up a free book at the Town Hall and you can see what every person in this town makes.
Do The Right Thing

Marlborough, MA

#22 Dec 11, 2010
Some how people think we have a choice here. We don't. The state is going to make us do something. We either front the whole bill with a bandaid approach, or we pay a little more and have the state also kick in more funds and we have a new facility. Common sense (which seems to be lacking on the subject) states that we pony up and get more bang for the buck. The timing is terrible. None of us can afford higher taxes, but doing anything else is just foolish. Besides, given the construction climate out there, there is a very good chance that this will come in under the projected cost.
get it together

Townsend, MA

#23 Dec 11, 2010
Do The Right Thing wrote:
Some how people think we have a choice here. We don't. The state is going to make us do something. We either front the whole bill with a bandaid approach, or we pay a little more and have the state also kick in more funds and we have a new facility. Common sense (which seems to be lacking on the subject) states that we pony up and get more bang for the buck. The timing is terrible. None of us can afford higher taxes, but doing anything else is just foolish. Besides, given the construction climate out there, there is a very good chance that this will come in under the projected cost.
I keep hearing this but why have they done so as of yet? The state can not mandate we build a new school. That is just untrue.They can shut it down but if that was the case they would have done so already!stop using these tactics to scare the taxpayers of the town!
Save the Children

Fitchburg, MA

#24 Dec 11, 2010
Vote yes. Local kids need a new school and good education so they will have a fighting chance when they grow up to move away from this pathetic wasteland full of backward thinking social rejects.
Blogenburgian

Clinton, MA

#25 Dec 11, 2010
Ash Resident wrote:
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Nice Post, but what you failed to mention was that to bring the building up to Fire Code and Building Code, add another 10 million. What many of you don't realize is this is a public building and must follow the law, add the fact that the building was built 40 years ago and things have changed significantly. Take the plumbing for example, it isn't just going through and changing a few valves, the pipes are bad and need to be replaced. Putting new coat of rubber on the roof will just increase it's load and push it closer to collapsing under the heavy weight of snow, etc. This isn't just a simple fix. Lastly, where will the kids go when you have to tear out the old plumbing to put in new, if that job takes four months, where are you going to hold school? Now you are talking relocation costs...
Try doing it from Mid-June to September 1st. Also, if your building was that shodly built hopefully none of the people who were in charge are still calling the shots.
Moan and groan

Worcester, MA

#26 Dec 11, 2010
so sick of all the moaners,why did you not take the tour and stand outside the kindergarten,1st, and second grade bathroom see how long you last,see how long you can take the smell!!!why did you not go into the classrooms and stay all day and see how sweltering hot some of them are and then antartica later in the day,,or try and open the windows and watch them fall out , or should I say watch the plastic fall out. Or how about the mice that run around the pipes while class is in session, the mice that eat through the wiring so when you plug an appliance in you get a good shock, or how about when in the work room you cannot run a photocopier or a laminator at the same time as the teachers are eating because you will blow the fuses, as they need the microwave and toaster!!!!How about when it rains the roof leaks in the new part of the building you would not have a bucket big enough to catch it!!!I could go on but why you will always find something to moan about!!! The truth of the matter is we need a new building now!!!!
I Agree

Leominster, MA

#27 Dec 11, 2010
Moan and groan wrote:
so sick of all the moaners,why did you not take the tour and stand outside the kindergarten,1st, and second grade bathroom see how long you last,see how long you can take the smell!!!why did you not go into the classrooms and stay all day and see how sweltering hot some of them are and then antartica later in the day,,or try and open the windows and watch them fall out , or should I say watch the plastic fall out. Or how about the mice that run around the pipes while class is in session, the mice that eat through the wiring so when you plug an appliance in you get a good shock, or how about when in the work room you cannot run a photocopier or a laminator at the same time as the teachers are eating because you will blow the fuses, as they need the microwave and toaster!!!!How about when it rains the roof leaks in the new part of the building you would not have a bucket big enough to catch it!!!I could go on but why you will always find something to moan about!!! The truth of the matter is we need a new building now!!!!
This is a situation of a catastrophic nature! Children running from classroom to classroom as ceiling tiles fall at their heads. Some kids using kayaks and canoes to navigate the hallways. Photocopiers that transform into robots and attack the town! Or maybe it's just another school in Mass and the teachers should stop crying that they don't have a Starbucks in the teachers lounge and go back to tracing hand turkeys.
10 Year resident

Gardner, MA

#28 Dec 11, 2010
I have lived in Town for ten years. My Children have been long gone from Briggs. The place was a dump then. I never vote for an increase in taxes. This time I will. To the older folks on fixed incomes I feel for you...We younger folks are also stuck with athletic user fees!!! You never had those. I am not happy about paying for a new school but the place is a DUMP! Time for a gut check!!
moan and groan

Worcester, MA

#29 Dec 11, 2010
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No not a catastrophic situation of nature just the plain truth , you would know this if you took the tour !!!
WTF

Westminster, MA

#31 Dec 11, 2010
I made a mistake with my math...there are only 425 students at Briggs....so that makes it $131,7647.70 per student ....even more the reason to vote NO...............
Ash Resident

United States

#32 Dec 12, 2010
Blogenburgian wrote:
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Try doing it from Mid-June to September 1st. Also, if your building was that shodly built hopefully none of the people who were in charge are still calling the shots.
That can't be done for the amount of work that needs to be completed for a renovation. If you were paying attention to the work the Building Committee has been doing, you would know and understand this. A full renovation for what is needed to bring the building up to code and fix all the deficiencies would take longer and cost more than building new like has been proposed.
Oye Yea Man

Fitchburg, MA

#33 Dec 12, 2010
get it together wrote:
<quoted text>I keep hearing this but why have they done so as of yet? The state can not mandate we build a new school. That is just untrue.They can shut it down but if that was the case they would have done so already!stop using these tactics to scare the taxpayers of the town!
While the State cannot make Ashburnham build a new school, it has the ability to take over the district and build the new school with state money...it will then run the school district, which would include Westminster as well. Just look at Chelsea a few years ago, the state DID take over the district and built a great new High School. The people in Chelsea had no choice. They had to pay for it and then listen to State run their school system...Do you want to be like Chelsea? You know what they say...my girlfriend said to kiss me where it Smells, so I drove her to Chelsea.
taxpayer

Fitchburg, MA

#34 Dec 12, 2010
Why do they give us 20 years to pay it off it should be 30 like years like houses.

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