Rabbit breeder found guilty of 35 cou...

Rabbit breeder found guilty of 35 counts of animal abuse

There are 158 comments on the Examiner.com story from Feb 2, 2012, titled Rabbit breeder found guilty of 35 counts of animal abuse. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

Arvada, CO: In a story that has caught the attention of advocates for months, 59-year-old Debe Bell was convicted on January 27th of 35 counts of misdemeanor animal cruelty.

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“Taste great in milk!”

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#1 Feb 13, 2012
The scumbag.
He should be drawn & quartered.

“I surived”

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#2 Feb 13, 2012
$25 fine seems to be appropriate here. It is a bit steep but not too unreasonable imo.

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#4 Feb 13, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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I'd like to see you live in one of those cages for a while. Then again, you're probably used to shitting all over yourself. Anyone who thinks this isn't cruelty must live in the kind of environment pictured in this story. I imagine we'll be seeing you on Hoarders pretty soon.
LMFAO!!=)

hiss of death

“Bowhunting Is Euphoric”

Since: Jan 09

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#5 Feb 13, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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I'd like to see you live in one of those cages for a while. Then again, you're probably used to shitting all over yourself. Anyone who thinks this isn't cruelty must live in the kind of environment pictured in this story. I imagine we'll be seeing you on Hoarders pretty soon.
It's really all a matter of perception, isn't it, Comrade Stalin ?

“FED UP WITH TOPIX”

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#7 Feb 13, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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Yes. I'm outraged when I see people FORCE animals to live in those kind of conditions.
For someone to NOT see anything wrong with it translates to that person being a filthy mess.
I think depends were invented for people like usa and hiss, wonder how many they piss through in a day?

“I surived”

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#8 Feb 13, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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I'd like to see you live in one of those cages for a while. Then again, you're probably used to shitting all over yourself. Anyone who thinks this isn't cruelty must live in the kind of environment pictured in this story. I imagine we'll be seeing you on Hoarders pretty soon.
You advocate caging humans so at the very least, we are equally as sadistic or whatever word you want to describe caging people/animals. The strange thing with you is that you actually aggressively want to cage humans. It seems to me that your behavior/desire is far more destructive than mine by any sane/rational person. Also,according to your "logic," anyone who advocates putting humans in cages must also live in a cage and shitting yourself.

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#9 Feb 13, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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Yes. I'm outraged when I see people FORCE animals to live in those kind of conditions.
For someone to NOT see anything wrong with it translates to that person being a filthy mess.
As someone who advocates caging humans, I suppose you just admitted/proclaimed that you live in a filthy mess.

hiss of death

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#10 Feb 13, 2012
USA R0CKS wrote:
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As someone who advocates caging humans, I suppose you just admitted/proclaimed that you live in a filthy mess.
And soils herself !

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#11 Feb 14, 2012
hiss of death wrote:
<quoted text>And soils herself !
Perhaps she cooks out of her toilet as well.

http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Sausage-Cookout-...

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#14 Feb 14, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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Huh? Caging humans? Do you mean putting people who break the law in jail?
Then yes....cage them all.
You are the one outraged by caging animals. Why aren't you opposed to caging humans that are not dangerous to society? Are you a hypocrite or a sadist? There doesn't seem to be any other choices for you.

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#15 Feb 14, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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If you don't have the ability too give animals (and children for that matter) a decent place to live, then don't have them. What's so hard to understand about that?
I don't necessarily disagree but I don't see the advantage to putting people in prison for it. If there is an objective upside (other than you enjoy watching humans suffer), please elaborate.

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#17 Feb 14, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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That's the punishment that we have in the country, in the whole world for that matter.
I didn't invent it.
What? Because you didn't invent it, it must be OK? That type of mindset is dangerous.
ScoutS wrote:
<quoted text>She was breeding rabbits in deplorable, filthy conditions. She's either nuts, or just a criminal making money off the backs of innocent rabbits. Either way, she needs to be put away in the appropriate setting: jail or a nut house. A fine won't stop people like this, just the way a speeding ticket doesn't stop people from speeding.
Or she could just continue with her business. I don't see how this person is a danger to society. I also don't see how locking her up makes society better. Just wasted resources imo. Like I said,$25 fine is a bit excessive but something that I would be OK with.

hiss of death

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#19 Feb 14, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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As far as locking people up in cages.....it's the accepted form of punishment for humans according to societal rules. I personally would have no problem forcing this woman to live in the same type of conditions for a while...not forever....just a few weeks would probably get my point across.
The Nazis prefered crowded gas chambers followed by small ovens as their "accepted form of punishment" and to "get their point across".

But hey, all carceral societies are perfect, right?

hiss of death

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#21 Feb 14, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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That's a wee bit different, don't you think? The people forced into gas chambers were
A. Not guilty of any crimes
B. Murdered
No one's talking about the death penalty here. But I guess these are the only arguments you can come up with. As a matter of fact, it is domesticated companion animals that are euthanized in the U.S. by the millions every year because of so many irresponsible breeders and pet owners. Next.
Next what ?

It doesn't change the fact that you are advocating the same carceral "solutions" as a societal norm. There are already tens of thousands of people in prison for petty offenses who are no danger to society. We have more people incarcerated in this country as a percentage of population than anywhere else on the planet. Caging more humans is the LAST thing we should be considering.

hiss of death

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#23 Feb 14, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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We need to stop prosecuting victimless crimes like possession of narcotics.
Animal abuse is NOT a victimless crime.
It certainly is where humanity is concerned.

But hey, my priorities are different than yours.

Joe USA

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#25 Feb 14, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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Animals like rabbits are actually very clean. It is against their nature to wallow in their own shit (unlike you apparently). Locking them up in small, cramped, filthy cages without proper ventilation, without water is ANIMAL ABUSE.
As far as locking people up in cages.....it's the accepted form of punishment for humans according to societal rules. I personally would have no problem forcing this woman to live in the same type of conditions for a while...not forever....just a few weeks would probably get my point across.
Societal rules and you needing to "get my point across" are two completely different ideas.
Good thing you have no control here, huh?

Joe USA

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#27 Feb 14, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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If it makes you happy to pick through my comments with tweezers and a magnifying glass, have at it.
My pleasure.

hiss of death

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#29 Feb 14, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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So you don't think it's possible that an animal could be the victim of a crime, even if the crime is "only" animal abuse?
A victim, yes it's possible but I think it carries FAR less weight than crimes against humanity.

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#30 Feb 14, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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Animals like rabbits are actually very clean. It is against their nature to wallow in their own shit (unlike you apparently). Locking them up in small, cramped, filthy cages without proper ventilation, without water is ANIMAL ABUSE.
As far as locking people up in cages.....it's the accepted form of punishment for humans according to societal rules. I personally would have no problem forcing this woman to live in the same type of conditions for a while...not forever....just a few weeks would probably get my point across.
And you are worse than what you perceive this person to be. Why do you get such pleasure out of humans suffering? People who enjoy humans suffering are called sadists. Why are you so devoid of moral character?

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#31 Feb 14, 2012
ScoutS wrote:
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That's a wee bit different, don't you think? The people forced into gas chambers were
A. Not guilty of any crimes
B. Murdered
But they were guilty of crimes according to the rules and regulations of their governing body. You are making my point for me but at the same time completely missing it.
ScoutS wrote:
<quoted text>No one's talking about the death penalty here.
We are talking about "crimes" and punishment. Not everybody in concentration camps died. Does that make what they experienced acceptable? Once again, you are making my point for me while simultaneously completely missing it.
ScoutS wrote:
<quoted text>But I guess these are the only arguments you can come up with. As a matter of fact, it is domesticated companion animals that are euthanized in the U.S. by the millions every year because of so many irresponsible breeders and pet owners. Next.
actually, "pets" are euthanized because there are insufficient people to love them. Animals breed. It is what they are born to do. you have really distorted reality to make it fit your perception.

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