Teen driver in triple fatal facing ch...

Teen driver in triple fatal facing charges

There are 77 comments on the KUSA Denver story from Sep 21, 2007, titled Teen driver in triple fatal facing charges. In it, KUSA Denver reports that:

Jeremiah Ogden faces three counts of careless driving resulting in death and two driver's license violations.

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What

Denver, CO

#1 Sep 21, 2007
Why doesnt this story tell why the accident happened to warrant these charges? I freaking hate that! I know the he blew a stop sign, but was there a problem being able to see it or anything of that nature?

Since: Sep 07

Arvada

#2 Sep 21, 2007
What wrote:
Why doesnt this story tell why the accident happened to warrant these charges? I freaking hate that! I know the he blew a stop sign, but was there a problem being able to see it or anything of that nature?
I dont suppose hes ready to speak of it yet. I am happy to know, just like I said, that he was NOT intoxicated!

Since: Sep 07

Arvada

#3 Sep 21, 2007
And by the way, where are all those people wanting to hang him as he was drunk.
Speak up, Jeremiah deserves an apology for that.
Ye who judge too quickly.....
CO Mommy

Denver, CO

#4 Sep 21, 2007
What wrote:
Why doesnt this story tell why the accident happened to warrant these charges? I freaking hate that! I know the he blew a stop sign, but was there a problem being able to see it or anything of that nature?
If you go down to that area where the accident happened right by the church, the signs are very clearly posted. This is probably more of a case of not paying attention than anything else.
Max

Englewood, CO

#5 Sep 21, 2007
Drunk or not, his 3 friends are still dead because of his utter stupidity. I don't think he deserves an apology or pity from ANYBODY. He was breaking the law at the time the accident occurred...that is all that matters.

Since: Sep 07

Arvada

#6 Sep 21, 2007
Max wrote:
Drunk or not, his 3 friends are still dead because of his utter stupidity. I don't think he deserves an apology or pity from ANYBODY. He was breaking the law at the time the accident occurred...that is all that matters.
Awfully judgmental arent you?
Never screwed up?
You've never sped, run a light or a stop sign.
I bet he'd be first to take blame while you bury him with your harshness and hostility.
He will pay, what more do you want?
Pray

Denver, CO

#7 Sep 21, 2007
CO Mommy wrote:
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If you go down to that area where the accident happened right by the church, the signs are very clearly posted. This is probably more of a case of not paying attention than anything else.
Thanks "Mommy"! That's really all I wanted to know. The poor boy made a mistake that the D.A. will make sure that he never forgets. Sometimes, I think that is the thing to do, but my God, how tragic! Bless the individuals that have suffered and don't make it worse on the living... Jeez.... After all, living life is about "living and forgiving".

Am I misunderstood? I dare someone on this site to imagine this boys ramaining life. Please look out for him and help him along as he may not ever get ovet this tragic mistake.

Awe...

“It's pronounced DAG-uth.”

Since: Jun 07

Windsor, CO

#8 Sep 21, 2007
What wrote:
Why doesnt this story tell why the accident happened to warrant these charges? I freaking hate that! I know the he blew a stop sign, but was there a problem being able to see it or anything of that nature?
Okay, he blew a stop sign. And he killed three people in the process. Does it matter? If he had been paying attention in the first place, he wouldn't have run the sign. For that matter, he wouldn't even have been on the road.

Goodby Jeremiah - have fun taking one for the team on the inside.

Since: Aug 07

LaLa Land

#9 Sep 21, 2007
I'm really very sorry that the three kids died in this accident, and to their families, I am so very sorry for your loss. And I'm not saying that the kid doesn't deserve to be punished. But lets not forget that he is just a kid himself, 18 or not, and he has surely "paid" to some extent every day since this happened, in his own nightmares. He wasn't paying attention, shouldn't have been driving, shouldn't have had the other kids in the car, yes. But don't forget how much he must be hurting, and how much he will grieve for his friends and the guilt over what he caused.
da climber

San Francisco, CA

#10 Sep 21, 2007
If this young man shows remorse and has been a good student, has not been in trouble with the law etc. I would think that his punishment will last him a lifetime without the court system should they be thinking jail or prison time. The kids that climbed into that car as well of at least one parent knew (or should have) he was not an experienced driver and probably that he was not to have anyone under age with him. It's a shame and my sympathy goes to all the families and their friends as well to the friends of the deceased. I, for one think that this should not be made a "EXAMPLE CASE" if the young man merits it.
Pray

Denver, CO

#11 Sep 21, 2007
Dagoth wrote:
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Okay, he blew a stop sign. And he killed three people in the process. Does it matter? If he had been paying attention in the first place, he wouldn't have run the sign. For that matter, he wouldn't even have been on the road.
Goodby Jeremiah - have fun taking one for the team on the inside.
For every time that YOU didnt pay attention and beat the odds... YOU'RE LUCKY! I love how people like you (God believing I'am sure, JUMP all over people that f up! Piss on you and your ignorant thoughts that corrupt today's society!
Pray

Denver, CO

#12 Sep 21, 2007
da climber wrote:
If this young man shows remorse and has been a good student, has not been in trouble with the law etc. I would think that his punishment will last him a lifetime without the court system should they be thinking jail or prison time. The kids that climbed into that car as well of at least one parent knew (or should have) he was not an experienced driver and probably that he was not to have anyone under age with him. It's a shame and my sympathy goes to all the families and their friends as well to the friends of the deceased. I, for one think that this should not be made a "EXAMPLE CASE" if the young man merits it.
Hello! I know! People are so quick to convict for the same mistakes that they can make. I just dont get it. Society is SO BUSY attempting to prosecute someone and make someone the EXAMPLE. F YOU! Get a grip, a life and hope that this does not happen to you. We all make choices. We all make decisions. This boy was NOT DRUNK! In the past,(most of you wouldnt recall), people who were drunk were considered "people who didnt commit crimes"! That was then, this is now... We dont drink and drive anymore (we hope) and YOU f'ed up people STILL want to commit a human to a life of incarceration for an ACCIDENT!

Find your own guilt first, deal with it and then GET A LIFE and STOP trying to put people away for ACCIDENTS!

I hope that the families that have had to deal with this are ok. I know it takes time. However, the bitches that complain on sites like this only make it all worse.
Pray

Denver, CO

#13 Sep 21, 2007
Dagoth wrote:
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Okay, he blew a stop sign. And he killed three people in the process. Does it matter? If he had been paying attention in the first place, he wouldn't have run the sign. For that matter, he wouldn't even have been on the road.
Goodby Jeremiah - have fun taking one for the team on the inside.
By the way, YOU SUCK !!!!!!!!!! You are the worst of the worst on this planet! Hateful as it sounds, I wish it was your SON that did this. I bet your mouth wouldnt run like it does here.

“Northside Yo”

Since: Jun 07

Downtown D-Town

#14 Sep 21, 2007
Not many mistakes end up with this degree of tragedy. I think the city is acknowledging there could be improvements at that corner as they are going to put up a stop light. I commend the city for stepping up and cutting through what could have been a myriad of red tape and just getting it done.

These families are obviously going through tough times and it's probably the same for this kid who was driving. I commend him for not being drunk or high at the time. This situation still outlines the inexperience of the driver and drivers his age. It is easy to say that he couldn't see a sign or what have you, but experienced drivers are alwys edging to the brake when approaching unknown territory, especially when it is dark.

I always say that the only people out on the road after midnite are punks and drunks and the cops who love them. In this case I wouldn't put this kid in either of those catagories. He seems to have made a tragic mistake. It seems the charges against him reflect a leniency by the DA but with enough seriousness to punish his mistakes without ruining the rest of his life. He deserves some punishment.

There is no free ride in life and you pay for your mistakes. I hope he takes it in stride and learns an important lesson. As he gets older he will understand that being punished doesn't always mean an us against you reaction of society. We can be on your side but still require you to be punished and then accept you back with no lingering bitterness for your youthful indiscretions. The families of these kids who were killed may have other feelings and that remains to be seen.

I hope this young man steps up, admits he is responsible, does not blame others, takes his lumps and then returns to do good things with his life, not just for their memory but for himself.
Concerned

Boulder, CO

#15 Sep 21, 2007
I am sorry to say that I agree that he needs to be put in jail for his actions. I doubt seriously that the parents of the children that died are going to just forgive.
I am all for a law that will not allow teenagers to drive until they are 18.
it wasnt intentional

Vail, CO

#16 Sep 21, 2007
no one sets out to get hit by another car.... instead of running to human reasoning- one ought to look to the lord....... Dig deeper this accident happened near a church.. maybe God is trying to show us something- i am not sure these are just my thoughts......... im verbally spewing lol
montanarose

Boulder, CO

#17 Sep 21, 2007
Kaelynn wrote: " ... lets not forget that he is just a kid himself, 18 or not, and he has surely "paid" to some extent every day since this happened, in his own nightmares. He wasn't paying attention, shouldn't have been driving, shouldn't have had the other kids in the car, yes. But don't forget how much he must be hurting, and how much he will grieve for his friends and the guilt over what he caused."

Oh my God! I am so sick of these teenage twerps moaning about how saaaaaaaaad it is that this poor 18-year-old "kid" is suffering and hurting, grieving and feeling guilt. And that he has "paid" for his inattention by having nightmares ... oh, the poor baby.

Wake up: at 18, one is no longer a kid but an adult. And he hasn't paid a fraction -- no matter how saaaaaaaaad he feels, and how much he hurts, and how guilty he feels -- of what his victims and their families have paid.

Sentiment is cheap. As are all the flowers, candles, sappy notes, and everything else that you teenagers love to place at the sites where people have lost their lives because one of your idiot friends was too busy texting, showing off or whatever to take good care of themselves and the innocent souls they happened to meet on the road.
Patti

Boulder, CO

#18 Sep 21, 2007
My heart goes out to all four families. I knew not one of the the kids, only one of the parents. May the tears I cry take away some of the pain, even if only a fraction. I will continue to pray for all, especially Jeremiah.
VVVV

United States

#19 Sep 21, 2007
Nicks Mom wrote:
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Awfully judgmental arent you?
Never screwed up?
You've never sped, run a light or a stop sign.
I bet he'd be first to take blame while you bury him with your harshness and hostility.
He will pay, what more do you want?
Yet you are trying to judge someone else. Hypocritical, are we?
VVVV

United States

#20 Sep 21, 2007
Dagoth wrote:
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Okay, he blew a stop sign. And he killed three people in the process. Does it matter? If he had been paying attention in the first place, he wouldn't have run the sign. For that matter, he wouldn't even have been on the road.
Goodby Jeremiah - have fun taking one for the team on the inside.
Are you saying he wouldn't have been on the road had he been paying attention in the first place? Sorry, just didn't make sense.

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