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Reality Check

Arnold, MO

#21 Jun 1, 2013
The Missouri Municipal League does offer a guideline for a proposed charter. The City of Arnold is NOT a charter city. It is a city formed under Chapter 77 as a fourth class city. If they were to adopt this part of the "Ellisville" charter, it would take away the powers of the Mayor and give even more power to the Chief of Police. The Chief has been given enough power with commanding the police department and the added responsibility of running city hall, can you not comprehend the gravity of that agreement? If you want a charter form of government with rules similar to Ellisville where the council can get rid of the Mayor against the wishes of the people who duly elected him and basically has no power at all, then by all means, go out into the streets and inform the public and see what they think about it all. The citizens of Ellisville weren't too thrilled. It will be played out in court. It may be a good idea for Arnold to hold off until this is decided by a Missouri judge.

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

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#22 Jun 1, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
The Missouri Municipal League does offer a guideline for a proposed charter. The City of Arnold is NOT a charter city. It is a city formed under Chapter 77 as a fourth class city. If they were to adopt this part of the "Ellisville" charter, it would take away the powers of the Mayor and give even more power to the Chief of Police. The Chief has been given enough power with commanding the police department and the added responsibility of running city hall, can you not comprehend the gravity of that agreement? If you want a charter form of government with rules similar to Ellisville where the council can get rid of the Mayor against the wishes of the people who duly elected him and basically has no power at all, then by all means, go out into the streets and inform the public and see what they think about it all. The citizens of Ellisville weren't too thrilled. It will be played out in court. It may be a good idea for Arnold to hold off until this is decided by a Missouri judge.
Ahhhhhh, there is where you are wrong. Arnold is a THIRD class city. Just shows you can't tell the truth.
Reality Check

Arnold, MO

#23 Jun 1, 2013
Pardon my mistake, you are correct but the fact remains that it is NOT a charter city.

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

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#24 Jun 1, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
Pardon my mistake, you are correct but the fact remains that it is NOT a charter city.
Shows you don't know it all after all and that your research is flawed.
wayne

Dallas, TX

#25 Jun 1, 2013
ok.
Go away

Atlanta, GA

#26 Jun 1, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
The Missouri Municipal League does offer a guideline for a proposed charter. The City of Arnold is NOT a charter city. It is a city formed under Chapter 77 as a fourth class city. If they were to adopt this part of the "Ellisville" charter, it would take away the powers of the Mayor and give even more power to the Chief of Police. The Chief has been given enough power with commanding the police department and the added responsibility of running city hall, can you not comprehend the gravity of that agreement? If you want a charter form of government with rules similar to Ellisville where the council can get rid of the Mayor against the wishes of the people who duly elected him and basically has no power at all, then by all means, go out into the streets and inform the public and see what they think about it all. The citizens of Ellisville weren't too thrilled. It will be played out in court. It may be a good idea for Arnold to hold off until this is decided by a Missouri judge.
I like the move to Perryville suggestion.

Doris or whichever Doris clone you are. You had your chance. You quote parts of 77 or 78 as it suits your argument. You were voted out. Drop it. Go bug the fire department. They are the real group pissing away our tax money. You have never proven anything satisfactorily that anyone in the city is doing anything wrong. They are just doing things you do not agree with. Your 15 minutes are well and truly over with. GTF out if you are so unhappy.
Reality Check

Arnold, MO

#27 Jun 1, 2013
The Mayor, the City Administrator and the City Attorney are the ones who need to go and all of their corrupt dealings need to be out in the open for all to see. That will happen. This bs civility ordinance is just censorship in disguise. It violates the first amendment. Expose it all, remove the secrecy, be transparent as promised but not delivered.
Fed Up Taxpayer

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#29 Jun 14, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
The Mayor, the City Administrator and the City Attorney are the ones who need to go and all of their corrupt dealings need to be out in the open for all to see. That will happen. This bs civility ordinance is just censorship in disguise. It violates the first amendment. Expose it all, remove the secrecy, be transparent as promised but not delivered.
Why do you think so much is done behind closed doors? Because they don't want us to know the truth.
lions n tigers n bears

Atlanta, GA

#30 Jun 16, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
The Mayor, the City Administrator and the City Attorney are the ones who need to go and all of their corrupt dealings need to be out in the open for all to see. That will happen. This bs civility ordinance is just censorship in disguise. It violates the first amendment. Expose it all, remove the secrecy, be transparent as promised but not delivered.
Clearly you feel unsafe in such a cesspool. Get out before the word gets out and the real estate market in Arnold tanks. Hurry now.
Reality Check

Arnold, MO

#31 Jun 16, 2013
I think I'll stick around and watch all the rats run when the ship starts sinking. They can't keep all their lies hidden forever. There is a crack in the dam and the deceit is trickling out drip by drip, it won't be long before the trickle increases to a stream....

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

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#32 Jun 16, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
I think I'll stick around and watch all the rats run when the ship starts sinking. They can't keep all their lies hidden forever. There is a crack in the dam and the deceit is trickling out drip by drip, it won't be long before the trickle increases to a stream....
Again...blah, blah, blah. Same rant different day. We've been waiting for that stream for YEARS and you have never produced anything of substance to cause them to flee. That should make one wonder.

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