Fox C-6 and Board treat teachers like crap!

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Jul 2, 2013
 
Letusnamenames wrote:
<quoted text>The only unbelievable one here is you. I'm a single parent (and watch what you say about that since you don't know WHY I am a single parent). I work to pay the bills and to pay YOUR salary and to take your abuse. If I quit to home school then you take a pay cut because then I can't pay the bills, OR MY TAXES that pay YOUR salary.

There are some good teachers in the system. I have found one older one that was great, but the younger ones are better because typically they don't have tenure. Many of the older ones, like you, don't care and blame it all on the parents. Track history has proven that to me with both kids. The one that was the best was the one that stayed late to help my youngest out when she was struggling and believe it or not, I struggled with how they were being taught. I didn't get the new method. She got her all straightened out after several nights of staying after. And she even taught me, too, so I could help. I saved up and gave that teacher a gift card to a decent restaurant to show my appreciation.

Go retire and let the younger non-tenured underpaid teachers that actually care take over.
And the teacher was a third grade teacher. My oldest is in high school and is having a hard time in English. That teacher refuses to help even during study period of which he has her, too, and would be an optimal time to help him. He says she sits on her phone and plays games the whole time. She refuses to help him when asked but yet will play on the phone. Is this policy?
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Most new teachers leave the profession within the first five years. Look it up. It's the ones that hang in there and truly care that stick around.
I actually do care and enjoy my job. I just can't understand society's attitude and attacks on teachers. And if you really understood Missouri tenure law you would know that it only provides a due process hearing to the allegedly incompetent teacher and that is about where the protections end. Tenure does not keep bad teachers in jobs. Bad principals keep bad teachers in jobs.
You can't blame teachers for trying to better their work conditions and pay. Everyone deserves the right to work for better.
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Jul 2, 2013
 
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The only unbelievable one here is you. I'm a single parent (and watch what you say about that since you don't know WHY I am a single parent). I work to pay the bills and to pay YOUR salary and to take your abuse. If I quit to home school then you take a pay cut because then I can't pay the bills, OR MY TAXES that pay YOUR salary.
There are some good teachers in the system. I have found one older one that was great, but the younger ones are better because typically they don't have tenure. Many of the older ones, like you, don't care and blame it all on the parents. Track history has proven that to me with both kids. The one that was the best was the one that stayed late to help my youngest out when she was struggling and believe it or not, I struggled with how they were being taught. I didn't get the new method. She got her all straightened out after several nights of staying after. And she even taught me, too, so I could help. I saved up and gave that teacher a gift card to a decent restaurant to show my appreciation.
Go retire and let the younger non-tenured underpaid teachers that actually care take over.
about your personal life, you have put out TMI as usual. She's single parent because she can't keep her mouth shut, is always right and has to let it spurt out all the time like diarrhea. As soon as her kids are old enough they'll bolt like gazelles away from the lion.
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Jul 2, 2013
 
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Really? You're bemoaning the fact that you have to spend your summer vacation putting on a roof? What about all the people who work TWELVE MONTHS OF THE YEAR who need a roof, who need a septic tank replaced?

Lots and lots of folks outside the teaching profession work more hours per week than you do, for less pay. That is a fact. Lots of folks take work home without extra compensation.

You work in the sun for two days? Let's pause for a moment to consider the roofing crews, the road crews, the maintenance crews who work outside EVERY DAY, hot weather, cold weather, rain, snow, whatever.

And frankly, with very few exceptions, what I have seen from our educational system has been highly disappointing, which is why we have opted out.

What a bunch of friggin' whiners. I swear. This world would be much better off if people would quit thinking about everything they DON'T have and start thinking about everything they DO have.

That's not to say anyone should take a pay cut. You shouldn't, and if the board failed to negotiate that is wrong. But I am sick of everyone feeding into this "teachers don't make enough" BS. From what I have seen, most of them don't DESERVE to make any more than they are making.
Opting out? Excellent. Thank you homeschooling your kids and allowing your taxes to pay for some of my supplies. Thank you! Thank you!! Thank you!! Good bye!
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Jul 2, 2013
 
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real teacher, you must make a heck of a lot more than me I cannot afford a new roof or septic tank. And I need the roof pretty bad. I work twelve months out of the year and bring my work home with me on many occasions. At this point, if you can afford all that then you can afford to buy the stuff for your classroom so quit asking me to supply Kleenex and Clorox wipes. Buy them yourself!
I buy them so I don't have to ask you.
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Jul 2, 2013
 
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<quoted text>Your right I am entitled to my opinion. I myself donate numerous items to all of my kids teachers. Examples, Kleenex, dry erase makers, hand sani., paper towels and anything else that may come home on a list. Certainly not a perk for me. I myself drive a 2003 car with FWD. You may pay taxes and not have any children but you get paid for your taxes correct? I really don't care that you plan my child's field day. That's what you get paid to do. Poor you, you have to spend a few more days in the sun while you work those sports days. Boohoo..... I'm sure most of us would love to get paid to keep time scores in the sun for a few days. Rough job but you get to do it and what do you know, you still complain. You work how many months of the year? How many hours a day? You know what I find funny is that the teachers that do have kids in the school district don't even volunteer to help at school functions. I'm not saying all do not but a lot do not. Schools are only as good as the teachers and the parents make them. So, if teachers that work for the district have children going to the district, they shouldn't hang their hats when they walk out the door for the day.

If you think your so mistreated and payed so unfairly, get a different job. Think of he teachers that teach I private schools. Compare your salary to theirs.
You are definitely not describing me. But thank you for your input.
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Guys, this is not supposed to be an attack the teacher thread, it is about the board of education and the fox c-6 administration and how they skirt the issues and the rules to hire their friends and relatives. I understand we all pay taxes. I understand those don't always trickle down to the classroom level. I also understand there are parents out there who have no clue how to raise a child let alone educate them. Let's think about how to improve the tenable situation the teachers are in and find ways for the parents to help. If parents are more involved they are more in tune to the needs of their child. I think parents should go to school a few times a month so they can see the bad behavior exhibited by students. It lowers the education your child receives, it diminishes the teacher's ability to teach. I suggest we point out the problems and have a dialogue instead of attacking the teachers, they are on the front lines.
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Oh Boy wrote:
Guys, this is not supposed to be an attack the teacher thread, it is about the board of education and the fox c-6 administration and how they skirt the issues and the rules to hire their friends and relatives. I understand we all pay taxes. I understand those don't always trickle down to the classroom level. I also understand there are parents out there who have no clue how to raise a child let alone educate them. Let's think about how to improve the tenable situation the teachers are in and find ways for the parents to help. If parents are more involved they are more in tune to the needs of their child. I think parents should go to school a few times a month so they can see the bad behavior exhibited by students. It lowers the education your child receives, it diminishes the teacher's ability to teach. I suggest we point out the problems and have a dialogue instead of attacking the teachers, they are on the front lines.
No, this was about the BOE agreeing to a contract in negotiations and then changing it later. The original contract was restored after the teachers voted down the other proposal.

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<quoted text>about your personal life, you have put out TMI as usual. She's single parent because she can't keep her mouth shut, is always right and has to let it spurt out all the time like diarrhea. As soon as her kids are old enough they'll bolt like gazelles away from the lion.
And yet you don't know me. But you're following me around so who's stalking who? Hmmmmm.....

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<quoted text>No, this was about the BOE agreeing to a contract in negotiations and then changing it later. The original contract was restored after the teachers voted down the other proposal.
Was it this that made the news a couple weeks ago or was that the nepotism issue?
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Teachers can't teach the correct way because the government gets their noses in it to much. Parents can't parent because of the same reasons. I myself am one that is old fashion in my beliefs. If you fail, your held back. I will say for every bad parent that the teacher may want to complain about just may be a bad teacher also. My little darlings sure dont get by with being lazy. I do have one kid that needs a reminder every so often that life isn't handed to them but I don't put it on my teachers. I think for the most part teacher do ell with what they have to work with. But to say they are mistreated. No! I don't buy into that.
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<quoted text>Was it this that made the news a couple weeks ago or was that the nepotism issue?
I believe that topic was started a long time ago and it is over 1000 posts long.

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Teachers can't teach the correct way because the government gets their noses in it to much. Parents can't parent because of the same reasons. I myself am one that is old fashion in my beliefs. If you fail, your held back. I will say for every bad parent that the teacher may want to complain about just may be a bad teacher also. My little darlings sure dont get by with being lazy. I do have one kid that needs a reminder every so often that life isn't handed to them but I don't put it on my teachers. I think for the most part teacher do ell with what they have to work with. But to say they are mistreated. No! I don't buy into that.
I completely agree with you on all of your comments here.

No child left behind has ruined a lot of things in our education system. And when a kid can cry child abuse for a parent touching the child's hand when they are mad at the parent, there is something wrong.
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Letusnamenames wrote:
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I completely agree with you on all of your comments here.
No child left behind has ruined a lot of things in our education system. And when a kid can cry child abuse for a parent touching the child's hand when they are mad at the parent, there is something wrong.
You are right. There is something wrong. It is called too many lawyers and liberal minded people sticking their noses in to people's business. But the people who complain the most are those who keep voting for these touchy-feely candidates.

WE HAVE NOONE TO BLAME BUT OURSELVES.
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Timothy wrote:
<quoted text>You are right. There is something wrong. It is called too many lawyers and liberal minded people sticking their noses in to people's business. But the people who complain the most are those who keep voting for these touchy-feely candidates.

WE HAVE NOONE TO BLAME BUT OURSELVES.
No child left behind was pushed for and signed by George w bush. Not exactly a liberal
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No child left behind was pushed for and signed by George w bush. Not exactly a liberal
The "concept" of NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND is a good concept(do you have some children you would like to name that we SHOULD leave behind?) The problem is that it never "levels off". You cannot expect continuous growth forever. We do need to make sure we are making every effort to teach each and every child but not expect the scores to continue to increase every year "forever". That is not sustainable.

Besides, who said Bush was a "conservative" LOL. Bush was a progressive small "L" liberal on the Republican side.
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Spare us from the sympathy "sixty hours+" card.

Big deal. Many people work sixty hour work weeks, without bitching about it & whining because they "earned" two months+ off.

You've got a full-time job with some paltry benefits. You aren't drawing 320/week on unemployment, competing with people who will take WAY less than what you feel you deserve to earn.

As already mentioned, if you think you deserve more, go find another employer & make your demands.

Otherwise, nobody wants to hear your whining. The economy is in terrible condition and taxpayers are stretched to their limits now.

And yes, I speak for all taxpayers except you. I'm sure you're happy to work harder and harder for less and less. Oh wait. You're complaining about not earning enough. Ummm....
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Why Teaching Is So Doggone Hard
It’s almost here, fellow teachers. 

Like it or not, we will wake up Monday morning much earlier than our summer sleep schedules are accustomed to, and we will walk back into the buildings we simultaneously love and fear. The newly waxed floors will look foreign without any tossed away papers and all used-up pencils, and the bare bulletin boards will mock us as we remember the cute ideas we saw on Pinterest.

We will make multiple trips from the car to our rooms, carrying bags filled with the magic we are convinced will make this year the best. We will stand surveying our rooms, hands on hips, as we envision a space that inspires and welcomes.

The plans will have to wait, though, as we sit through multiple meetings where we team-build and common-core learn and technology policy question… And don’t forget lunch-plans make, as this is the week – the only week – where we are allowed to leave for the sacred lunch.

Our non-teacher friends will roll eyes as we mention ‘heading back to work,’ and they will make snide comments about us having the whole summer off. We will roll eyes back as we mutter,“You just don’t get it.” And, bless their hearts, they don’t.

They don’t get that being a teacher – a good teacher – is like being a performer onstage for eight hours a day, five days a week who has also had to write the script, create the scenery, memorize each role, and research the backstory. 

It means dealing with hecklers in the crowd whom security cannot remove and then being responsible for said hecklers mastering the nuances of the play she is performing. It means changing the script in the middle of the performance because audience members are nodding off, and doing so with zero funds because she spent her allocation stocking up on Kleenex and hand sanitizer.

It means not being able to go to the bathroom when she needs to, but racing to beat the other teachers before the tardy bell rings. 

It means having her performance observed and critiqued by those who only see just a part, and receiving blame if the audience doesn’t rush to join her onstage.

It means so much more than any non-teacher can understand.

It means feeling like you have more children than you actually delivered, crying at their troubles and celebrating their victories. It means noticing the child who has no brand new supplies and no way of getting what the list requires. 

It means sinking into your chair as the final bell rings, asking yourself if you can make it another day. It means arriving earlier the next morning to ensure that you can.

Being a teacher is hard. But it’s good.

Do me a favor, ok? If you’re not a teacher and you see one in the next few days wearing a look of panic – tell her thank you. Tell her thanks for cramming 365 days worth of knowledge into 180 (fewer if you count the interruptions and standardized tests). Say thank you for her being “on” every day when she steps in front of your child, leaving her own exhaustion, troubles, and worries at home. Let her know you appreciate the fact that she cannot just leave her work at work, but brings it (and thoughts of your child) home with her.

I guarantee she doesn’t hear ‘thanks’ nearly enough. You might even make her cry. "

-This was sent to our staff. Thank a teacher in our district, they deserve it.

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