Tea Party KOCHsuckers

Saint Louis, MO

#97763 Apr 2, 2014
Democrats in trouble wrote:
<quoted text>
I notice how when I asked you a question you refused to answer it. I'll ask you again....have you signed up?
YES...
Tea Party KOCHsuckers

Saint Louis, MO

#97764 Apr 2, 2014
Here Are Some Really Bad Obamacare Predictions

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With news that the Affordable Care Act has hit 7 million sign-ups, it appears likely -- no matter how much some Republicans don't want to admit it -- that the law is on the road to success. Now seems like as good a time as any to revisit those past predictions of disaster. Below, some of the greatest (worst) Obamacare hits:

Healthcare.gov Can't Be Fixed -- Writing in The Hill on Oct. 30, 2013, Rep. Bill Johnson (R-Ohio) declared that the website, which failed to work for the vast majority of consumers when it went live on Oct. 1, should be scrapped altogether. Furthermore, he recommended that President Barack Obama delay the individual mandate, the most important part of the health care law, until the technical problems were sorted out.

Choice excerpt:
"This may be the most stunning example of overpromising and under delivering in recent U.S history. Based on my review, the problems with the Healthcare.gov website are catastrophic."
In real life: The website was functioning smoothly by December.

The Administration Won't Hit Its Sign-Up Target -- According to a March 11, 2014, article from the Associated Press, "the White House needs something close to a miracle to meet its goal of enrolling 6 million people by the end of this month."

Choice excerpt:
"With open enrollment ending March 31, that means to meet the goal, another 1.8 million people would have to sign up during the month, an average of about 60,000 a day. That's way above the daily averages for January and February, which have ranged between 33,000 and 34,000. The math seems to be going against the administration."
In real life: Do you believe in miracles?
Tea Party KOCHsuckers

Saint Louis, MO

#97765 Apr 2, 2014
Here Are Some Really Bad Obamacare Predictions
The Law Is Unworkable -- With Healthcare.gov still hobbled in mid-November, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said in a press conference that there was no way to fix "the government taking control of our entire health care insurance market."
Choice excerpt:
ďWhen you step back and look at the totality of this, I donít think itís ever going to work. There are all types of health insurance policies out there based on your financial circumstances and how much risk youíre willing to take, and so the idea that the federal government should come in and create a one-size-fits-all for the entire country never was going to work."
In real life: He was wrong.
The Exchanges Will Be A Disaster -- Bill Kristol, who is famously always wrong, wrote in his Weekly Standard last August that the health care exchanges, which he called "the beating heart of Obamacare," would be a complete nightmare.
Choice excerpt:
"If the exchanges are permitted to go into effect ... there will be error, fraud, inefficiency, arbitrariness, and privacy violations aplenty.... Just as economic shortages were endemic to Soviet central planning, the coming Obamacare train wreck is endemic to big government liberalism. Itís not a bug, itís a feature."
In real life: Okay, there were technological problems at the start, and the state websites run by Oregon and Maryland are still struggling. But overall the exchanges are now doing just fine.
The Law Will Be Repealed In Advance Of The Midterm Elections -- Writing in Forbes in November, conservative professor Steven F. Hayward made a bold call: The Affordable Care Act would be no more by mid-2014. The political fallout, he predicted, would simply be too much for Democrats to bear, and they, not Republicans, would lead the charge to scrap the law.
Choice excerpt:
"With the political damage guaranteed to continue, the momentum toward repeal will be unstoppable. Democrats will not want to face the voters next November with the albatross of Obamacare."
In real life: Democrats facing tough reelection battles did try to water down the law, but repeal was never close to happening.
Uninsured People Aren't Signing Up, So The Law Can't Work -- Less than a month ago, Commentary's John Podhoretz wrote that, given a Washington Post survey finding that only 1 in 10 people who were previously uninsured had signed up for Obamacare, the law's entire rationale had been destroyed.
Choice excerpt:
"They have thrown the entire health-care system into unprecedented chaos for a population that is, it seems, staying as far away from it as possible. Little has been fixed; much has been made far worse; nothing makes sense; and good luck to the Democrats who have to defend their votes for this colossal cock-up in November."
In real life: PolitiFact rated as "mostly false" a similar claim made by National Review's Rich Lowry, who relied in part on the same (inconclusive) data as Podhoretz did. PolitiFact concluded, "The fact is, we have no clear data and to say most of the people already had insurance sidesteps an information gap."
Obamacare May Be Obama's Katrina ... Iraq -- In November, National Journal's Ron Fournier compared Obama's handling of Obamacare with President George W. Bush's struggles over the Iraq War and Hurricane Katrina.
Choice excerpt:
Tea Party KOCHsuckers

Saint Louis, MO

#97766 Apr 2, 2014
With news that the Affordable Care Act has hit 7 million sign-ups, it appears likely -- no matter how much some Republicans don't want to admit it -- that the law is on the road to success. Now seems like as good a time as any to revisit those past predictions of disaster. Below, some of the greatest (worst) Obamacare hits:

Healthcare.gov Can't Be Fixed -- Writing in The Hill on Oct. 30, 2013, Rep. Bill Johnson (R-Ohio) declared that the website, which failed to work for the vast majority of consumers when it went live on Oct. 1, should be scrapped altogether. Furthermore, he recommended that President Barack Obama delay the individual mandate, the most important part of the health care law, until the technical problems were sorted out.

Choice excerpt:
"This may be the most stunning example of overpromising and under delivering in recent U.S history. Based on my review, the problems with the Healthcare.gov website are catastrophic."
In real life: The website was functioning smoothly by December.

The Administration Won't Hit Its Sign-Up Target -- According to a March 11, 2014, article from the Associated Press, "the White House needs something close to a miracle to meet its goal of enrolling 6 million people by the end of this month."

Choice excerpt:
"With open enrollment ending March 31, that means to meet the goal, another 1.8 million people would have to sign up during the month, an average of about 60,000 a day. That's way above the daily averages for January and February, which have ranged between 33,000 and 34,000. The math seems to be going against the administration."
In real life: Do you believe in miracles?

The Law Is Unworkable -- With Healthcare.gov still hobbled in mid-November, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said in a press conference that there was no way to fix "the government taking control of our entire health care insurance market."

Choice excerpt:
ďWhen you step back and look at the totality of this, I donít think itís ever going to work. There are all types of health insurance policies out there based on your financial circumstances and how much risk youíre willing to take, and so the idea that the federal government should come in and create a one-size-fits-all for the entire country never was going to work."
In real life: He was wrong.
Tea Party KOCHsuckers

Saint Louis, MO

#97767 Apr 2, 2014
The Exchanges Will Be A Disaster -- Bill Kristol, who is famously always wrong, wrote in his Weekly Standard last August that the health care exchanges, which he called "the beating heart of Obamacare," would be a complete nightmare.

Choice excerpt:
"If the exchanges are permitted to go into effect ... there will be error, fraud, inefficiency, arbitrariness, and privacy violations aplenty.... Just as economic shortages were endemic to Soviet central planning, the coming Obamacare train wreck is endemic to big government liberalism. Itís not a bug, itís a feature."
In real life: Okay, there were technological problems at the start, and the state websites run by Oregon and Maryland are still struggling. But overall the exchanges are now doing just fine.

The Law Will Be Repealed In Advance Of The Midterm Elections -- Writing in Forbes in November, conservative professor Steven F. Hayward made a bold call: The Affordable Care Act would be no more by mid-2014. The political fallout, he predicted, would simply be too much for Democrats to bear, and they, not Republicans, would lead the charge to scrap the law.

Choice excerpt:
"With the political damage guaranteed to continue, the momentum toward repeal will be unstoppable. Democrats will not want to face the voters next November with the albatross of Obamacare."
In real life: Democrats facing tough reelection battles did try to water down the law, but repeal was never close to happening.

Uninsured People Aren't Signing Up, So The Law Can't Work -- Less than a month ago, Commentary's John Podhoretz wrote that, given a Washington Post survey finding that only 1 in 10 people who were previously uninsured had signed up for Obamacare, the law's entire rationale had been destroyed.

Choice excerpt:
"They have thrown the entire health-care system into unprecedented chaos for a population that is, it seems, staying as far away from it as possible. Little has been fixed; much has been made far worse; nothing makes sense; and good luck to the Democrats who have to defend their votes for this colossal cock-up in November."
In real life: PolitiFact rated as "mostly false" a similar claim made by National Review's Rich Lowry, who relied in part on the same (inconclusive) data as Podhoretz did. PolitiFact concluded, "The fact is, we have no clear data and to say most of the people already had insurance sidesteps an information gap."

Obamacare May Be Obama's Katrina ... Iraq -- In November, National Journal's Ron Fournier compared Obama's handling of Obamacare with President George W. Bush's struggles over the Iraq War and Hurricane Katrina.

Choice excerpt:
"[T]here are inescapable similarities in the ways that Bush and Obama handled their crises, and those actions changed the public's view of their presidencies. Specifically:
Their mismanagement raised questions about competence, compounded by deceptive and tone-deaf responses that undermined their credibility.
The crises came after a series of unrelated events that had already caused doubt among voters about the presidents. To borrow a clichť, Katrina was the last straw.
Their personal and job-approval ratings tanked.
Their dwindling political capital was squandered by defensive, insular advisers who refused to recognize the dangers.
They both ran reelection campaigns without a positive forward-looking message and made the races primarily about their opponent. That left them little political capital going into their second term.
Bush never recovered. Obama might still have time to learn history's hard lessons."
In real life: Support for Obamacare appears to be rising.
Tea Party KOCHsuckers

Saint Louis, MO

#97768 Apr 2, 2014
The Supreme Court Has Struck Down Overall Campaign Contribution Limits

Democracy! SOLD! To the highest bidder!

Thank you CONservatives
Tea Party KOCHsuckers

Saint Louis, MO

#97769 Apr 2, 2014
The nightmares from the Bush era continue!
RMS_Obamacare

Poplar Bluff, MO

#97770 Apr 2, 2014
Tea Party KOCHsuckers wrote:
With news that the Affordable Care Act has hit 7 million sign-ups, it appears likely -- no matter how much some Republicans don't want to admit it -- that the law is on the road to success. Now seems like as good a time as any to revisit those past predictions of disaster. Below, some of the greatest (worst) Obamacare hits:
Healthcare.gov Can't Be Fixed -- Writing in The Hill on Oct. 30, 2013, Rep. Bill Johnson (R-Ohio) declared that the website, which failed to work for the vast majority of consumers when it went live on Oct. 1, should be scrapped altogether. Furthermore, he recommended that President Barack Obama delay the individual mandate, the most important part of the health care law, until the technical problems were sorted out.
Choice excerpt:
"This may be the most stunning example of overpromising and under delivering in recent U.S history. Based on my review, the problems with the Healthcare.gov website are catastrophic."
In real life: The website was functioning smoothly by December.
The Administration Won't Hit Its Sign-Up Target -- According to a March 11, 2014, article from the Associated Press, "the White House needs something close to a miracle to meet its goal of enrolling 6 million people by the end of this month."
Choice excerpt:
"With open enrollment ending March 31, that means to meet the goal, another 1.8 million people would have to sign up during the month, an average of about 60,000 a day. That's way above the daily averages for January and February, which have ranged between 33,000 and 34,000. The math seems to be going against the administration."
In real life: Do you believe in miracles?
The Law Is Unworkable -- With Healthcare.gov still hobbled in mid-November, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said in a press conference that there was no way to fix "the government taking control of our entire health care insurance market."
Choice excerpt:
ďWhen you step back and look at the totality of this, I donít think itís ever going to work. There are all types of health insurance policies out there based on your financial circumstances and how much risk youíre willing to take, and so the idea that the federal government should come in and create a one-size-fits-all for the entire country never was going to work."
In real life: He was wrong.
You know, it took a little while for the Titanic to sink after it hit the iceberg, but it was doomed from the day they used all that brittle steel in the hull. Just give it time. She will go under.
Dr_Strangelove

Poplar Bluff, MO

#97771 Apr 2, 2014
Tea Party KOCHsuckers wrote:
<quoted text>
YES...
Did you not have insurance before or did you get dropped or was it for another reason?

“So it's not you, It's them?”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#97772 Apr 2, 2014
RMS_Obamacare wrote:
<quoted text>
You know, it took a little while for the Titanic to sink after it hit the iceberg, but it was doomed from the day they used all that brittle steel in the hull. Just give it time. She will go under.
Thanks for confirming, once again, that you CONs continue to root against the average hard-working guy, who is temporarily in need and needs health care for himself, the wife and the kids. No surprise there. CONs have done everything that you possibly could for 4+ years now, to slow or stop our economic growth, to continue the lavish corporate welfare, to obstruct any assistance for the little guy and to line the pockets of those 1% fat cats. Ayn Rand groupies!

“So it's not you, It's them?”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#97773 Apr 2, 2014
Dr_Strangelove wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you not have insurance before or did you get dropped or was it for another reason?
You writing a book, taking a survey, or just naturally nosy? To get information, you should expect to give information. Is your current health care provider privately-purchased, job-related, a so-called retirement-related "benefit," or ACA? If you'd prefer to not share, you should expect nothing in return.
Clinton-Obama agenda

United States

#97774 Apr 2, 2014
Tea Party KOCHsuckers wrote:
The Supreme Court Has Struck Down Overall Campaign Contribution Limits
Democracy! SOLD! To the highest bidder!
Thank you CONservatives
So George Soros purchasing his mulatto Obama is legal?
Clinton-Obama agenda

United States

#97775 Apr 2, 2014
Tea Party KOCHsuckers wrote:
The nightmares from the Bush era continue!
Or is it really nightmares from the Clinton era continues........
RMS_Obamacare

Poplar Bluff, MO

#97776 Apr 2, 2014
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for confirming, once again, that you CONs continue to root against the average hard-working guy, who is temporarily in need and needs health care for himself, the wife and the kids. No surprise there. CONs have done everything that you possibly could for 4+ years now, to slow or stop our economic growth, to continue the lavish corporate welfare, to obstruct any assistance for the little guy and to line the pockets of those 1% fat cats. Ayn Rand groupies!
Glad to help you folks out....now, who needs a life-jacket?
Clinton-Obama agenda

United States

#97777 Apr 2, 2014
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
You writing a book, taking a survey, or just naturally nosy? To get information, you should expect to give information. Is your current health care provider privately-purchased, job-related, a so-called retirement-related "benefit," or ACA? If you'd prefer to not share, you should expect nothing in return.
Good answer from an liberal useful idiot.
Dr_Strangelove

Poplar Bluff, MO

#97778 Apr 2, 2014
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
You writing a book, taking a survey, or just naturally nosy? To get information, you should expect to give information. Is your current health care provider privately-purchased, job-related, a so-called retirement-related "benefit," or ACA? If you'd prefer to not share, you should expect nothing in return.
Hmmm...words well spoken. Thanks, Dear Abby. Great advise. You should follow your own advise sometime.
Clinton-Obama agenda

United States

#97779 Apr 2, 2014
Tea Party KOCHsuckers wrote:
FACT: Every poll shows Obamacare has a higher approval rating than the Republican party.
Syphilis has a higher approval rating than the Republican party.
Ha,ha,ha,ha,haha,ha, watch the polling booths 2014 & 2016 you stupid liberal useful idiot!
RMS_Obamacare

Poplar Bluff, MO

#97780 Apr 2, 2014
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for confirming, once again, that you CONs continue to root against the average hard-working guy, who is temporarily in need and needs health care for himself, the wife and the kids. No surprise there. CONs have done everything that you possibly could for 4+ years now, to slow or stop our economic growth, to continue the lavish corporate welfare, to obstruct any assistance for the little guy and to line the pockets of those 1% fat cats. Ayn Rand groupies!
You really missed what I said, didn't you. God help us all.

But you are correct in that it's the fat cats that are taking the bigger slice of the pie and keeping it for themselves, whether they are Republicans or Democrats, that's immaterial. It makes no difference what label they attach to themselves, they are working both sides of the fence, working toward a common goal, to get and keep themselves rich and keep us poor.

“On Nov. 4 -- NO Tea Party”

Since: Sep 09

Say "NO" to TeaPub Elephants!

#97781 Apr 2, 2014
RMS_Obamacare wrote:
<quoted text>You know, it took a little while for the Titanic to sink after it hit the iceberg, but it was doomed from the day they used all that brittle steel in the hull. Just give it time. She will go under.
You would be well-advised to stick to something you understand.

Saying point-blank that the Titanic was destined to sink because "brittle steel" (whatever that is) was used is FALSE.

1. If the owner of the steamship line had not been so eager to set a trans-Atlantic speed record, there could have been safer navigation to avoid the icebergs which had already been reported along the course of the Titanic. That is to say -- if the Titanic had not been going so fast, the lookouts might have seen the iceberg in time to take evasive measures. And in any event, the damage would not have been as bad. "Brittle steel," indeed!

2. There was a design flaw in the titanic. The flotation tanks were not covered. As soon as the water got up to the tops of the flotation cylinders, it poured down into the cylinders and the Titanic WAS doomed. Had the flotation cylinders been sealed and thus waterproof, the Titanic would have continued to float.

3. Are you extending your "brittle steel" argument saying that anything you designate (like the "Affordable Care Act") will "go under." That broad allegation you have there is untenable, "Poplar Bluff." (And trying to infer that you are educated by using "RMS" is laughable. The US government has nothing to do with "RMS" -- "Royal Mail Ship," which was used at the time for British ships contracted to carry mail under contract.)

What a mishmash of cluelessness you are attempting to sell. You remind me of the "HMS Pinafore."

“On Nov. 4 -- NO Tea Party”

Since: Sep 09

Say "NO" to TeaPub Elephants!

#97782 Apr 2, 2014
Dr_Strangelove wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you not have insurance before or did you get dropped or was it for another reason?
"Dr_Prosecuting_Attorney, " what IS this? 20 questions? When did you start asking ignorant questions?

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