A Lesson for Arnold
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Morning Globe

Torrance, CA

#1 Oct 21, 2013
DSH

Saint Louis, MO

#2 Oct 21, 2013
Yeah, don't give in to drummed up charges and conspiracies by vindictive council members. Stick to guns, Ron!!!
Morning Globe

Torrance, CA

#3 Oct 21, 2013
Chet Pleban is on the right side of the Arnold case too. Your "hero" will fall just like they have in Ellisville. Most people are smarter than DSH and realize those exposing the problems are the good guys, not the other way around. G vs E. G will triumph.

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#4 Oct 21, 2013
Morning Globe wrote:
Chet Pleban is on the right side of the Arnold case too. Your "hero" will fall just like they have in Ellisville. Most people are smarter than DSH and realize those exposing the problems are the good guys, not the other way around. G vs E. G will triumph.
Yep. Fortunately Ron is good. And DSH doesn't degrade you like you do him. Feel like you have a score to settle? You are vindictive. Then again the only way you can win a debate is if the other person is no longer able to participate. That has been proven.
DSH

Saint Louis, MO

#5 Oct 21, 2013
Wasn't the article about how the mayor of Ellisville stood up to the vindictive City Council, and won out overall? About a City Council making all these false accusations against the mayor?

Sounded much like what Ron Counts had to deal with in the last election. Only difference is, there wasn't enough support to get Ron removed from office, though, y'all did try!

Morning Globe, why don't you come out from behind the proxy firewall, and let us know who you REALLY are.
Morning Globe

Torrance, CA

#6 Oct 21, 2013
Hey SHD, yes I have that right, guess the first word, the second is head. Why don't you just come out? Liquor stores and beer wagons top the list of the lies he has told people. If he will lie about that, he'll lie about anything.
Think again. The story is how someone was elected by the people to do a job that those who were already in power did not want done. Their attorney, city manager and some members of city council went against the wishes of the people and got rid of the man who called it all to everyone's attention. He got his job back, legally, and he is pursuing those who tried to turn things back on him. In the case of Arnold, the mayor is part of the problem. He has joined forces with his sworn enemies of the year before last. What is he getting out of it. He will fall, and it won't just be off of the beer wagon, just like the other two legs in his triangle of friends. Leviticus 6 1-4.
DSH

Saint Louis, MO

#7 Oct 21, 2013
Wow, call me names, and then quote scripture. Hypocrite.

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#8 Oct 21, 2013
Morning Globe wrote:
Hey SHD, yes I have that right, guess the first word, the second is head. Why don't you just come out? Liquor stores and beer wagons top the list of the lies he has told people. If he will lie about that, he'll lie about anything.
Think again. The story is how someone was elected by the people to do a job that those who were already in power did not want done. Their attorney, city manager and some members of city council went against the wishes of the people and got rid of the man who called it all to everyone's attention. He got his job back, legally, and he is pursuing those who tried to turn things back on him. In the case of Arnold, the mayor is part of the problem. He has joined forces with his sworn enemies of the year before last. What is he getting out of it. He will fall, and it won't just be off of the beer wagon, just like the other two legs in his triangle of friends. Leviticus 6 1-4.
He didn't join forces. He just discovered what a liar you and your bunch are. He discovered that you have no proof. Maybe you should be asked to supply proof again. Seems like all you know how to do is throw accusations and degrade people. Symptoms of a person who feels neglected and wants to feel like they are bigger and needs power.
Morning Globe

Torrance, CA

#9 Oct 21, 2013
Yes, just emulating your hero!
Morning Globe

Torrance, CA

#10 Oct 23, 2013
Cathy Wooldridge

Imperial, MO

#11 Oct 23, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
<quoted text>
He didn't join forces. He just discovered what a liar you and your bunch are. He discovered that you have no proof. Maybe you should be asked to supply proof again. Seems like all you know how to do is throw accusations and degrade people. Symptoms of a person who feels neglected and wants to feel like they are bigger and needs power.
I beg to differ. He did join forces with the exact people he told me he was against. Ron Counts called me at the time of his first election and asked me to meet with him at Denny's in Arnold to discuss his election. I agreed, we met and talked in great detail about what his ideas were. He asked if he could use my name in his election. After hearing what he had to say I agreed. There is a first for everything and a last. Needless to say that is the last time I will endorse him.

Let me be first one to tell you, EVERYTHING he said he was against, he is for. I've been to several council meetings and feel he makes a poor mayor. His leadership is less then I would like to see. He allows that circus to evolve and has never gained control. He is rude to to the citizens that speak and half the time he acts as if he could careless what they say. He allows his council to be rude and interrupt other council members. The list goes on and on.

Just because a person gives their time to politics does not mean they should get a pat on the back for the time alone. They need to do a good job as well. Not only should he show respect to the citizens of Arnold, he should also show respect for his council even if he disagrees. His lack of leadership is a shame.

I'm not saying anything on this forum that I would not say to him personally. In fact I have emailed him in the past, only to get no response.

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#12 Oct 23, 2013
Cathy Wooldridge wrote:
<quoted text>I beg to differ. He did join forces with the exact people he told me he was against. Ron Counts called me at the time of his first election and asked me to meet with him at Denny's in Arnold to discuss his election. I agreed, we met and talked in great detail about what his ideas were. He asked if he could use my name in his election. After hearing what he had to say I agreed. There is a first for everything and a last. Needless to say that is the last time I will endorse him.

Let me be first one to tell you, EVERYTHING he said he was against, he is for. I've been to several council meetings and feel he makes a poor mayor. His leadership is less then I would like to see. He allows that circus to evolve and has never gained control. He is rude to to the citizens that speak and half the time he acts as if he could careless what they say. He allows his council to be rude and interrupt other council members. The list goes on and on.

Just because a person gives their time to politics does not mean they should get a pat on the back for the time alone. They need to do a good job as well. Not only should he show respect to the citizens of Arnold, he should also show respect for his council even if he disagrees. His lack of leadership is a shame.

I'm not saying anything on this forum that I would not say to him personally. In fact I have emailed him in the past, only to get no response.
And what type of response did you expect to get? Why would he respond to someone that is a known associate of Doris? Any response he would have given you would have passed to Doris and had plastered all over the place trying to make something out of nothing like you all always do.

If Doris is so right, then why has no proof ever been posted or provided? Maybe because they are lies? Give examples where he voted on something that he was against. Remember, where he VOTED.

And you all say he is disrespectful to the citizens and doesn't say anything. Well, he has never been disrespectful and you all have his hands tied to where he can't say anything because you blow everything out of proportion and cause lawsuits over nothing.

Cathy, frankly, you act like your endorsement was a big deal. In reality, nobody knows who you are and could care less. Your endorsement doesn't mean a thing because of that. Consider that your reality check. He probably just did it as a courtesy or because Doris told him to at the time.

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#13 Oct 23, 2013
Morning Globe wrote:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/l ocal/govt-and-politics/politic al-novice-draws-scorn-and-laws uit-for-questioning-business-a s/article_8e0f0b45-bdeb-55e5-8 88a-ba46d98584da.html
Another article with no relation to Arnold. Hmmmm...I wonder who is close to this person in the article. It's no secret who one of her biggest out of town fans is.
Cathy Wooldridge

Imperial, MO

#15 Oct 23, 2013
One more thing.... If you speak the truth and act upon your word who cares what is plastered to where. If I say something, I'm wiling to stand on national tv and say it. I would not say anything in a closed meeting that I wouldn't say in open. In fact I'd rather have everything in open.

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#16 Oct 23, 2013
Cathy Wooldridge wrote:
One more thing.... If you speak the truth and act upon your word who cares what is plastered to where. If I say something, I'm wiling to stand on national tv and say it. I would not say anything in a closed meeting that I wouldn't say in open. In fact I'd rather have everything in open.
Well good for you. Do you think we really care? Call the national nightly news and see if they will let you on. I doubt it because they don't care either.

Do you have it in writing? Oh yeah, no you don't. Oops, there's that missing piece called evidence, also known as proof. Do you have proof of your meeting with Counts? How do we know you aren't making the whole thing up in an attempt to defame him?
DSH

Saint Louis, MO

#17 Oct 23, 2013
Rule #1 in debating...qualify your statement. In other words, PROVE IT!!!!
A_Wise_Man_Once_ Said

Saint Louis, MO

#18 Oct 23, 2013
Cathy, it's up to you whether to challenge LUNN, but keep in mind that she's nuts. Our only weapon against her senseless, monotonous posting is total silence. That leaves her with only her other alter egos to talk to and I think after a while even they get bored with the drivel she spouts. If you can resist the urge please don't engage her.
Cathy Wooldridge

Imperial, MO

#19 Oct 23, 2013
A_Wise_Man_Once_Said wrote:
Cathy, it's up to you whether to challenge LUNN, but keep in mind that she's nuts. Our only weapon against her senseless, monotonous posting is total silence. That leaves her with only her other alter egos to talk to and I think after a while even they get bored with the drivel she spouts. If you can resist the urge please don't engage her.
Don't worry, I won't engage. Ignorance is bless in some cases I guess??
Cathy Wooldridge

Imperial, MO

#20 Oct 23, 2013
***bliss... Darn phone

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#21 Oct 23, 2013
Awwww, nice to see Cathy needs her leader to tell her what to do.

Yet another example of a debate they were going to lose so they have to back out. Sucks when you have no proof. So much for the portrait Cathy tried to paint of herself.

You can choose not to engage but I will keep exposing your lies and you not engaging me makes my job easier. Keep it up!

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