Arnold Council candidate despair

Arnold Council candidate despair

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Frodo

Fenton, MO

#1 Dec 27, 2010
As much as anyone, I want to see Crisler and Moritz defeated in April. However, I fear that the candidates currently signed up to face them can't do it. Doris Borgelt is running in Ward 1, the seat of Randy Crisler, who hasn't filed yet (is he running?). Doris is very outspoken, but in a caustic, confrontational way. I'm not sure she has the temperament to be a councilwoman, and voters who read her posts on here might be inclined to agree. I don't know much about Michelle Hohmeier, who is running against Bill Moritz in Ward 2, but I do recall that she said at a council meeting that the city should have no reserve fund whatsoever, which is not reasonable.

As for Ward 3, I'm not sure why Tea Partier Stan Willis is running against Bob Lindsley. Bob has been a solid councilman, and Stan will only make it harder for Bob to get re-elected.

I hope that those with connections in and around Arnold will work to ensure we have some good candidates for April, because we have an opportunity to change the council for the better. Let's not blow it.
Agree

Arnold, MO

#2 Dec 27, 2010
Doris Borgelt, Stan Willis, birds of a feather, nutjobs, caustic,unreasonable. Neither will do anything but say no, and will not move our city forward. This would only be a repeat of the last council which made time stand still.
Renew

Washington, DC

#3 Dec 27, 2010
Agree wrote:
Doris Borgelt, Stan Willis, birds of a feather, nutjobs, caustic,unreasonable. Neither will do anything but say no, and will not move our city forward. This would only be a repeat of the last council which made time stand still.
Well, like you all said before, out with the old and in with the new. Give them a chance to see if they can get things turned around. But no, Jim West, we know that you do not want that cause you perfer to be able to rub elbows with the corrupt cohorts
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#4 Dec 28, 2010
Frodo wrote:
As much as anyone, I want to see Crisler and Moritz defeated in April. However, I fear that the candidates currently signed up to face them can't do it. Doris Borgelt is running in Ward 1, the seat of Randy Crisler, who hasn't filed yet (is he running?). Doris is very outspoken, but in a caustic, confrontational way. I'm not sure she has the temperament to be a councilwoman, and voters who read her posts on here might be inclined to agree. I don't know much about Michelle Hohmeier, who is running against Bill Moritz in Ward 2, but I do recall that she said at a council meeting that the city should have no reserve fund whatsoever, which is not reasonable.
As for Ward 3, I'm not sure why Tea Partier Stan Willis is running against Bob Lindsley. Bob has been a solid councilman, and Stan will only make it harder for Bob to get re-elected.
I hope that those with connections in and around Arnold will work to ensure we have some good candidates for April, because we have an opportunity to change the council for the better. Let's not blow it.
I see you cannot dispute my accuracy or make any valid argument against my stance on issues or present any facts to the contrary. In other words, it seems that you consider presenting the truth to be caustic and confrontational. Just remember I have always backed up everything I have presented with verifiable facts, paperwork and links, you know, solid proof.
I would rather be up front with people and look them in the eye when I talk to them, than be like all-knowing, arrogant Mr. Crisler,dismissing the people he represents in his condescending manner in council meetings. Another of his famous moves is to look down and shuffle through papers while ignoring the citizen who is addressing him.
Our city is in a sad state of affairs when the regular citizen has to fight tooth and nail to get simple paperwork and information that should be available just for the asking. What are they trying to hide? Why can't they put the payroll and general warrants up on line along with the council packets? Why can't the general public be privy to that information without having to travel to City Hall to get it?
Certain parties from the City of Arnold strong-armed the Rock Community Fire District board into signing a pass-through agreement for TIF funds after reneging on a promised fire-truck, now the RCFD is going to have to BORROW MONEY TO PAY THAT DEBT!(So much for Mr. Brazeal's great financial advice!) Mr. Crisler and Mr. Moritz were adamant about suing the ambulance district to extricate the same TIF funds from them. Is our city trying to bankrupt our emergency service providers to pay for the THF development?
The only people being taken care of here are the developers(taxpayers subsidizing their projects), the corporations(contracts awarded withtaxpayer monies filling their bank accounts), the back in the driver's seat $200,000 city attorney(he wins with a trip to the bank whether the city wins, loses or settles a case) and those firms owed favors for their very generous campaign donations. You the taxpayer are funding all of these shenanigans and your reward is FREE TRASH! Do I need to tell you who is getting the short end of the stick?
I offered to debate any one of them or all of them with a neutral moderator when I wasn't running for anything and the offer still stands. Sell tickets and let the proceeds go to the Arnold Food Pantry and the Arnold Historical Society
Looking Back

Saint Louis, MO

#5 Dec 28, 2010
Doris you ran before and you lost. It would benefit ward 1 to have someone else run Randy must be doing something right he hasnt lost yet and you ran against him and lost. Im for one am tired of seeing retreads like you always running and losing you tried and you lost, Matt Hay won and didnt do nothing but create chaos along with Jerel Poor. Now you want to run again. Time for new blood to run against Crisler because its obvious you are your other friends cant get it done.
canman01

Saint Louis, MO

#6 Dec 28, 2010
How true Doris. It seems to me that the Arnold C.C.
is trying to bankrupt the city. No emergency fund.
now that is just not right. You never know when it might come up and we need that money. You have always backed-up anything you say with that solid proof. When a person talks to another person it is considerate for the other person to look at the one talking, besides just ignoring him/her. We need people on the city council that are willing to look out for the people of Arnold if the present council does not want or feels that they
don't have too, then by the all mighty god resign.Get out and let the people that want to make this respectable once more. Crisler,Lang Moritz and the whole lot of you need to go. We need people on the council that have good ideas as to how to bring this town back alive again. I am sick and tired of all the bickering that is going on between the people of Arnold and the city council. The council ought to listen to the people that have good ideas not to ignore them when being spoken to. I have been to the council meeting and it seems to me that it nothing but a puppet show.
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#7 Dec 28, 2010
I won't be discouraged by the likes of you, promise:)
Please tell your friend Phil what you have just posted on here, he has lost numerous times, even with all of that big time corporate money behind him.
canman01

Saint Louis, MO

#8 Dec 28, 2010
We need to find a way to reduce the sales tax. It is a proven fact that Arnold has the highest sale tax in the county. Come city council. Why can't you find a way to reduce the tax instead of finding a way to line your pockets. If you want people to spend money in Arnold, then you might want to rethink the tax. Developments, there are so many vacant lots. Lets intice companies to move here. There are people that would love to work, but the jobs are not there.Work on that. Lets bring a national truck stop here. Everyone know if you got it a truck brung it,I am sure there is a place for it. Health care, the only one here is Urgent Care. Lets get some thing here besides that.As I see it if you bring companies here, they will spend money to build, there fore hiring people that will spend money. It all ties in together If you want Arnold to be great again,work on the things that I have mentioned. Lets make this town great again. Lets stop all the bickering and work together, and get it done Now.
just some guy

United States

#9 Dec 28, 2010
Greg Palm!!!!!
yellowdogdemocra t

De Soto, KS

#10 Dec 28, 2010
I heard that Charles Huey is running for City Council in Ward 3. I hope that it is true we need to get bob out of office. Bob is just like doris, Hay, and Boyer and that is nuts.
curious

Saint Louis, MO

#11 Dec 28, 2010
Bob is nothing like Doris, Hay or Boyer. He is an independent thinker who has done wonders for the ward now that Amato is OUT.

Bob has done the following that I can name off the top of my head.

1. Responded to EVERY constituent call and followed through.
2. Got the state to fix the entrance to the street across city hall to prevent accidents.
3. Got an anti-jake braking ordinance passed to help residents that live along the highway.
4. Got an ordinance passed to make it illegal for truckers to park on the shoulders of the on and off ramps of the highway.
5. Is in the progress of getting a guard rail put up on the south side of Tenbrook to prevent people that run off the road from going into the fences and decks (and maybe house one day) of people who live in Woodridge subdivision.
6. Addressed the speeding in a subdivision and is working with the residents to go through the speed bump process (which is more than Amato ever did. He always told residents no when they wanted speed bumps).

Those are just off of the top of my head.

He tried to get an ordinance passed to ensure the public is heard at every meeting before any votes on ordinances or resolutions are taken, but the people that voted to reinstate Sweeney made sure that didn't pass since that was the ploy they used to reinstall Sweeney (vote first, listen to the public last).

Bob has done more for the RESIDENTS that Amato ever did. Amato was out for himself and the developer and not for the residents. Since Huey is associated to Amato and after the poor display Huey put on at the last election I would have to say Bob is definitely the guy we want in office.

Maybe you should move to Ward 3 to figure that out.
Storm

De Soto, KS

#12 Dec 28, 2010
Huey did not have a poor display this past election he did a great job. If it was not for the Tea Party Meadows would not have won. The Labor Pac is not wanting Bob to run and that should tell the people something and I live in the 3rd ward and I will not vote for bob again. I would vote for Huey again for anything that he would run for. SO please Charles run for office again.

Since: Apr 10

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#13 Dec 28, 2010
Huey did put on a poor display. From the person he had opting in here to his first website filled with spelling and grammatical errors.

The only reason the labor PAC is supporting him is because he is Amato's friend. Anyone Amato wants gets the endorsement because of his friendship with Bart Velasco. Too bad the labor PAC is losing money due to lost donations this year. I hope local 1 can make up for all of the others that no longer support them. Many unions are now wise to their antics and have told their members not to listen to them, including my husband's local 148.

Since: Apr 10

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#14 Dec 28, 2010
I just talked to my better half and he said that if they don't endorse Bob that his local alon with several others are going to demand an investigation from the AFL-CIO.
Louie

Arnold, MO

#15 Dec 28, 2010
Storm,
Huey couldn't run to the bathroom. He's done, put a fork in his hand and let him eat himself into oblivion, you can join him. The Labor PAC is as corrupt as it can be. They have endorsed non-union candidates over perfectly good candidates that were not only union members, but union organizers. They're so effective at choosing non-union candidates to back, that you will see pickets posted on jobsites throughout Arnold on various new construction jobs. Chic-fil-A brought out of state workers in as did Dollar Tree and others. Nothing like sending local money to stimulate out of state economies.
Vote NO Doris

United States

#16 Dec 29, 2010
Eventually we must come to the realization that Doris cannot tell the truth because the truth is not in her. Only by the most twisted mental gymnastics can you connect her misguided interpretations of fact to reality.

Her mean-spirited attacks on this community and its good citizens exhibit the wrong character for service on the city council. Give me anyone but Doris.
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#17 Dec 29, 2010
All you have is your hate for me to guide you!:) You cannot disprove any facts I have brought forward. You cannot present a valid argument to dispute anything I have stated. I stand behind my words, unlike you who hide behind your keyboard. I sign my name to my postings, emails and the letters I send to the editor.
You consider telling the truth to be mean, although it may be a harsh reality, it is far from being mean. I will debate you and all of your "fiends"[sic]on any city subject.
The use of eminent domain-The "Property Owner's Bill of Rights" isn't worth the paper it is written on. Proof that council and planning commission members have no regard for the document were exhibited in the Hometown plans and the meeting with Patti Banks and Associates for the Comprehensive Plan. There clearly is intent to use eminent domain to clear the subdivision behind Bandana's to make a connector road from 141 to the Water Tower Plaza. Problem is, there are many homes there. Nice homes. The talk in the meeting seemed to suggest those homes are in a state of disrepair or outdated. They are nothing of the sort.
If you take a gander(no pun intended) at the Hometown plan, you will see that it covers acres of ground, with parkways in the middle of Jeffco, a bike path, then commercial buildings with parking lots and streets behind them. Those areas are currently occupied by businesses and homes and the land is owned by individuals. Do you think all of those people just want to disrupt their lives, homes and businesses and turn that property over to a developer like say....Clayco or THF? Do you think they can go for years in limbo? I heard 1.25 time fair market value being tossed around as some great compensation plan. In this economy, some people owe more than their homes are worth, are they expected to take a loss for the developer? This is still the United States of America. Planning to take someone's property now or in the future is wrong, fair market value is subjective. If you think all of those people should just hand over their property you are bigger liars, cheaters and theives than anyone could imagine.
You have a great day!
curious

Saint Louis, MO

#18 Dec 29, 2010
Louie wrote:
Storm,
Huey couldn't run to the bathroom. He's done, put a fork in his hand and let him eat himself into oblivion, you can join him. The Labor PAC is as corrupt as it can be. They have endorsed non-union candidates over perfectly good candidates that were not only union members, but union organizers. They're so effective at choosing non-union candidates to back, that you will see pickets posted on jobsites throughout Arnold on various new construction jobs. Chic-fil-A brought out of state workers in as did Dollar Tree and others. Nothing like sending local money to stimulate out of state economies.
To make things fair, the people picketing Dollar Tree was the Carpenter's. No other union respects the carpenters because they have infringed on other's work. The carpenters will do electrical, plumbing, pipe fitting, etc., all of which is work belonging to other unions. Just look at their "Local 57". It isn't a real union. They are scabs that are working for well below a union wage doing the electrical work that belongs to Local 1, putting many Local 1 workers out of a job.

However Chic-fil-a and Texas Roadhouse did use non-union out of state workers and should have been picketed, by the respective unions whose work it should have been. So much for Phil Amato guaranteeing union work to get their endorsement and then bailing on it. Makes you wonder what Phil Amato has on Bart Velasco.
Michelle

Saint Louis, MO

#19 Dec 31, 2010
I am Michelle Hohmeier and I want to verify something written in the very first post by Frodo.

Frodo said,
"I don't know much about Michelle Hohmeier, who is running against Bill Moritz in Ward 2, but I do recall that she said at a council meeting that the city should have no reserve fund whatsoever, which is not reasonable."

That was not me that said that. I believe I have only stood in front of the council once and it was to voice my disapproval of the red light cameras.

I would never advocate not having a reserve fund. I believe it is very important to have a reserve fund as there are always emergencies or issues that arise we do not foresee.

I am not as vocal as some, but in the time I have lived in Arnold (2 years) I have seen enough of the backdoor deals and dirty politics that seem to consume this town.

As for not knowing much about me, here are a few things I believe in. I am for openness in every level of government and to limit the involvement of that government in the daily lives of the people. I am for restoring liberty to the people so they can be free to prosper and live their lives as they chose. I am for making Arnold a town friendly to small businesses by lifting restrictions and lowering tax burdens.

If anyone has any questions of who I am or what I stand for, I will be more than happy to talk with them.
Curious

Chicago, IL

#20 Dec 31, 2010
What about lowering the tax burden on the residents?

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