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Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#1 Jan 2, 2013
Here is a link to my page which has a link to the full printout of the investigation. Please feel free to read it and see just how your tax dollars have been wasted on a witch hunt. I look forward to your feedback!
https://www.facebook.com/DorisBorgeltForMayor...

Since: Mar 08

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#2 Jan 2, 2013
Thanks for posting that file. Really good read. One thing that I do not understand about the report is, why would the call it an investigation?

Reading their interview with you, the investigator seems to come out and say to you that Moss is guilty. If an investigator is telling the people he is Interviewing who the guilty party is, then it would seem they are leading the investigation where they want it to go.

I can see why the Council would not accept the Report or investigation the way it is written, or was conducted. It reads as a witch hunt, and seems to lack professionalism.
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#3 Jan 3, 2013
Vinny,
It also says that I requested a second interview. That is not correct. I did however, ask to see a copy of the "complaint" that was represented to have been filed with the Missouri Commission on Human Rights. I was refused repeatedly until I made it quite clear that I would not take no for an answer. Turns out that a complaint had never been filed and what I had been shown was a questionaire that anyone could fill out on the MCHR site, download and sign. If you will notice in the report the interviews are out of date order. In only the Chief's interview which was taken near the end of interviews, the document is referred to as an "intake questionaire" in prior interviews with others it is presented as a "complaint" filed with the MCHR. If you could actually hear the interviews the "badgering" of those being interviewed is even more evident. This is akin to outcome based facilitating which is a common practice in the City of Arnold i.e. Comprehensive Plan.....
outcome based

Union City, GA

#4 Jan 3, 2013
All the drivel and spin pumped out by councilwoman Borgelt is her attempt at outcome based facilitation.
Awww

Arnold, MO

#5 Jan 3, 2013
Ole Bill must be off work early.
Beyond disgusted

Saint Louis, MO

#6 Jan 3, 2013
Um.

What I noticed first and foremost that the report is titled Confidential.

Maybe I am missing something, but that typically means it should not be shared on a social networking site.

Then there is the issue that this nonsense is what the council is doing to represent the citizens of Arnold.

Long ago living in Arnold came with many negative connotations, and for many years it seemed to be better. In the last several years we have been subjected to the juvenile, finger pointing antics of the entire council and it is shameful and embarrassing.

Speaking as a tax paying citizen of Arnold, I would certainly appreciate it if you could all act like adults and learn to work together and if you can't get along at least try to keep it out of the newspapers.

Good grief.
Corruption City

Arnold, MO

#7 Jan 3, 2013
Well, looks like it was confidential until the city attorney said it could be released to the media and it was, they made requests under the open records law and obtained it, so now it is in the public realm. That's how these things work.
Beyond disgusted

Saint Louis, MO

#8 Jan 3, 2013
The Arnold city attorney?

Regardless of who requested it, or why my point is simply that parading this in the media is unprofessional on everyone's behalf. I would like to say that I expect more of my elected officials but I guess that is pretty silly of me.
Corruption City

Arnold, MO

#9 Jan 3, 2013
You have the council that you elected. The corrupt city officials that you allow to run your city are condoned by your vote. You get what you vote for. When someone comes along that tries to clean it all up you criticize them. You just want to sweep it all under the rug. Stand up and help clean this mess up instead of being embarrassed.
People watcher

Saint Louis, MO

#10 Jan 3, 2013
Sadly, I am only allowed one vote. I can tell you with great confidence that the city officials currently in charge of running my city were most certainly not put there by me.

One way I can think of to clean up the mess? If our elected officials would behave like adults, every single one of them.

When someone comes along that will clean all this up? I will be cheering not criticizing them however it doesn't seem like that will be happening anytime soon.
Confused

Fenton, MO

#11 Jan 3, 2013
Beyond disgusted wrote:
The Arnold city attorney?
Regardless of who requested it, or why my point is simply that parading this in the media is unprofessional on everyone's behalf. I would like to say that I expect more of my elected officials but I guess that is pretty silly of me.
Why would you not want an "investigation" which will be paid for by your tax dollars to be public knowledge? It was work product created with tax dollars. Do you think it should be hidden? They could have written "Nuclear Launch Codes" across it, and it does not magically make the contents so.

What I found so interesting is that Randy Crisler gives Susie a glowing review in the interview, yet neglects to mention a) He called for a vote of No Confidence against her and b) Suspended her and Matt Unrein for a week. I would think a weeks suspension is something to note when asked about ones impression of an employee. There was no mention of that.

As for Private Investigative Services (PIS), that was the biggest sham I have ever read. I am pretty sure that if Shockey had one of his detectives hand him a report with such an unsubstantiated conclusion (in the detectives opinion......) along with transcripts that are clearly both leading and threatening witnesses, as well as establish hearsay as "fact", that Shockey would fire the detective knowing full well that no Judge would ever allow such hearsay in their court room. Any prosecutor that filed a capias based on that would be ripe for a charge of prosecutorial misconduct.

This whole thing is a joke, and the last laugh is likely going to be in Federal Court......
capias

United States

#12 Jan 3, 2013
Matt, I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it is hard to pronounce.

Your sham conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated conclusions have added little to improving life in Arnold.

Established hearsay is that you moved on up to Fenton. Feel free to collect your fifty cent vocabulary and whinny ass opinions and spread them around your new home town.
PUee

Arnold, MO

#13 Jan 3, 2013
Confused wrote:
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Why would you not want an "investigation" which will be paid for by your tax dollars to be public knowledge? It was work product created with tax dollars. Do you think it should be hidden? They could have written "Nuclear Launch Codes" across it, and it does not magically make the contents so.
What I found so interesting is that Randy Crisler gives Susie a glowing review in the interview, yet neglects to mention a) He called for a vote of No Confidence against her and b) Suspended her and Matt Unrein for a week. I would think a weeks suspension is something to note when asked about ones impression of an employee. There was no mention of that.
As for Private Investigative Services (PIS), that was the biggest sham I have ever read. I am pretty sure that if Shockey had one of his detectives hand him a report with such an unsubstantiated conclusion (in the detectives opinion......) along with transcripts that are clearly both leading and threatening witnesses, as well as establish hearsay as "fact", that Shockey would fire the detective knowing full well that no Judge would ever allow such hearsay in their court room. Any prosecutor that filed a capias based on that would be ripe for a charge of prosecutorial misconduct.
This whole thing is a joke, and the last laugh is likely going to be in Federal Court......
Matt Hay you may have moved to Fenton but you still spew the same old uninformed story.
Letusnamenames

Fairfax, VA

#14 Jan 4, 2013
I read the report. It is all hearsay and concentrates on actions done outside of Susie's presence. Not one interviewee witnessed or testified to something done to her directly. So that means everything is hearsay.

Disappointed things didn't go your way Mr. Moritz? Finding it hard to find people who agree with you? People and citizens are trying to tell you to drop it, quit wasting our tax money and move on. I bet you that Mr. Moss is going to sue individuals for slander if YOU keep running to the media with a report only containing hearsay.
Honestly

Arnold, MO

#15 Jan 4, 2013
Mr. Moss has no case for slander, and I sure wish all y'all (including Doris and Matt) would stop playing lawyer when the only exposure you've ever had to the legal profession is watching too many episodes of CSI.

Grow up, you're an embarrassment to this town. How would you like it if your personal life, like Susie's, was laid open for all to see? I feel awful for her, and if you had an ounce of compassion you'd have thought harder before posting that link up, Doris, and begging everyone to share it far and wide.

You are a despicable person, and it shows.
Get Over It

Saint Louis, MO

#16 Jan 4, 2013
Maybe you should get your facts straight before you start running your mouth.
Oh poor Susie. She is making false claims because she wants a nice check like Unrein received.
Bill Moritz is stomping his feet and crying to the media and every paper because he did receive the result he wanted. He waisted tax payers money for an investigation and now he does not want it to come back on him. GET OVER IT BILL. You want to know why Bill looked so nervous when he was interviewed....because he is lying and doing things he should not be doing!!
The last I checked the City Council should make Arnold look better. Well, you all have failed and continue to make Arnold look like a joke.
Lisa

Florissant, MO

#17 Jan 4, 2013
Attacking Boone, Moritz, and the investigation is an attempt by Moss, Borgelt, and Kornakki to misdirect attention from the issue, which is Moss' retaliation at a city employee who fired his sister. He used his elected position to intimidate a person who fired his sister. And Klown Kornakki's subsequent comments are beyond belief. And Borgelt condones and encourages these types of behavior. The problem is not Moritz. It's the cover up attempt by five council members. Spin it all you want, but this is a problem created by Moss and only Moss.
Misdirect all you want. Moss' behavior is the issue.
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#18 Jan 4, 2013
Lisa,
It would behoove you to actually read the report. There is NOTHING in it that even remotely suggests that Mr. Moss is guilty of anything! They are nondescript allegations, he said, she said. The questions asked by the investigator don't pertain to any specific incidents, no one is able to recall any specific incidents and NO ONE directly said anything to Ms. Boone, it was all second and sometimes third hand relations of statements. There are more questions about myself and Miss Moss and those questions are not even remotely related to the investigation that was supposed to be done. What does my sending any email to a resident of Arnold have to do with an investigation of Ms. Boone's allegations? This was a sham, read the report.
If I or anyone you have mentioned was trying to cover anything up, why would I make sure the report be out there for anyone to read and by the way, I'd be more than happy to share any emails or memos I have sent or received.
Get Over it

Saint Louis, MO

#19 Jan 4, 2013
Lisa....What is Moss' behavior? So Moss is never supposed to question what Boone is doing?
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#20 Jan 4, 2013
Evidently, some councilmembers are not supposed to ask any questions, research anything on their own, or have opinions for that matter(at least any that differ from Moritz, Freese, the Mayor or certain staff members!) We are supposed to keep our mouths shut and do what we are told! If I ask questions I am harassing employees. If I ask for materials, I am harassing. If I ask if someone has a license to do business, I am harassing. If I send emails to the people I know in the public, the contents must be investigated. So if I'm not supposed to ask any questions, am I just supposed to sit in my chair like a bump on a log and let all the "men" do the work? That ain't happening.

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