Who will accept gay marriage and who ...

Who will accept gay marriage and who won't

There are 479 comments on the heraldnet.com story from Jan 29, 2012, titled Who will accept gay marriage and who won't. In it, heraldnet.com reports that:

If same-sex marriage is approved, churches and businesses must decide if they will welcome gay couples.

Sen. Mary Margaret Haugen's pastor applauded her decision this week to support legalizing marriage for same-sex couples.

But even if the law changes, Pastor Daniel Sailer won't be performing weddings any time soon at Stanwood United Methodist Church where Haugen worships.

Not because he doesn't want to do them. To the contrary, he does, but church rules bar him from doing so.

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Frank Stanton

Omaha, NE

#1 Jan 29, 2012
pathetic ameriKKKa. harboring these hateful, ignorant christian terrorists.

christian = terrorist
terrorist = christian

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#2 Jan 29, 2012
According to these fundies if you don't like civil rights then have the people vote who has rights. Then it should be ok for any state to have a vote by the people to ban religion or restrict religious worship that it can only be done in accordance to government regulation or to give all businesses the right to post signs "NO CHRISTIANS ALLOWED". To give the people the right to vote which religion can practice in their state.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#3 Jan 29, 2012
Can the Knights of Columbus discriminate??? Anybody know??

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#4 Jan 29, 2012
Gay Mom wrote:
Can the Knights of Columbus discriminate??? Anybody know??
I believe they can......but don't quote me on this.....and again, if they have allowed a place used for the public and then not for Gays or Lesbians.....they could face similar legal challenges as the Church did in New Jersey over their Public Pavilion.

But that will be something that may happen........personally, unless the hall was spectacular......I'd find another venue!!!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#5 Jan 29, 2012
Gay Mom wrote:
Can the Knights of Columbus discriminate??? Anybody know??
As a private organization they are allowed to discriminate in membership, but they have to follow state/city anti-discrimination laws when renting out their facilities to the general public.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#6 Jan 29, 2012
Jalene in the wild wrote:
According to these fundies if you don't like civil rights then have the people vote who has rights. Then it should be ok for any state to have a vote by the people to ban religion or restrict religious worship that it can only be done in accordance to government regulation or to give all businesses the right to post signs "NO CHRISTIANS ALLOWED". To give the people the right to vote which religion can practice in their state.
While I agree with your sentiment, unfortunately the constitution is very clear about religious freedom; gays not so much.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#7 Jan 29, 2012
FYI

In 2009 there were more "yes" votes on Ref-71 in King county alone in than all the "no" votes in the entire eastern & southern part of the state.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#8 Jan 29, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
FYI
In 2009 there were more "yes" votes on Ref-71 in King county alone in than all the "no" votes in the entire eastern & southern part of the state.
That's good, right?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#9 Jan 29, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
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That's good, right?
That's VERY good.

As I stated elsewhere, in 2009 the turnout in the anti-gay eastern half of Washington averaged 65%, while turnout in the pro-equality Puget Sound area was only 24%, and we STILL had enough votes to beat them.

I'm VERY encouraged that in a normal election year with over 80% turnout spread more evenly across the state, we have an EXCELLENT chance of winning our first marriage equality victory at the polls.
RJP

Lima, OH

#10 Jan 29, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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While I agree with your sentiment, unfortunately the constitution is very clear about religious freedom; gays not so much.
There is that pesky line somewhere in there that says "All men are created equal", and "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness".

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#11 Jan 29, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
That's VERY good.
As I stated elsewhere, in 2009 the turnout in the anti-gay eastern half of Washington averaged 65%, while turnout in the pro-equality Puget Sound area was only 24%, and we STILL had enough votes to beat them.
I'm VERY encouraged that in a normal election year with over 80% turnout spread more evenly across the state, we have an EXCELLENT chance of winning our first marriage equality victory at the polls.
Then I'm encouraged as well:-)

Let's go Washington:-)

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#12 Jan 29, 2012
Hey! Itís all about diversity! You want diversity? Then youíll have to accept bigots, homophobes, Christian fundies and all the rest. I mean, if we have to accept sex perverts, then sex perverts will just have to accept normal people as well

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#13 Jan 29, 2012
Charlie Feather wrote:
Hey! Itís all about diversity! You want diversity? Then youíll have to accept bigots, homophobes, Christian fundies and all the rest. I mean, if we have to accept sex perverts, then sex perverts will just have to accept normal people as well
You already have equal rights. You are already accepted. What special rights do you want now???
Tucksun Jack

Tucson, AZ

#14 Jan 29, 2012
Gay Mom wrote:
Can the Knights of Columbus discriminate??? Anybody know??
Of course they can. They're a private religious organization. They cna do whatever they want.

Woodsman_1

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#15 Jan 29, 2012
Tucksun Jack wrote:
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Of course they can. They're a private religious organization. They cna do whatever they want.
Unfortunate, but true.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#16 Jan 29, 2012
I am absolutely OK with churches setting their own criterion for inclusion and participation in their membership and ceremonies.

I would want the same for myself.

Businesses are not the same thing, and so the issue gets more cloudy.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#17 Jan 29, 2012
Frank Stanton wrote:
pathetic ameriKKKa. harboring these hateful, ignorant christian terrorists.
christian = terrorist
terrorist = christian
lumping all Christians under the banner you love is just as bad as lumping all gay men into the same class as pedophile priests.

Your vitriol is self destructive.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18 Jan 29, 2012
RJP wrote:
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There is that pesky line somewhere in there that says "All men are created equal", and "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness".
True. I'm just saying it's not as obvious as the religious protections. If it WAS, then we wouldn't be having this argument; we'd already have our equal rights.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#19 Jan 29, 2012
Charlie Feather wrote:
Hey! Itís all about diversity! You want diversity? Then youíll have to accept bigots, homophobes, Christian fundies and all the rest. I mean, if we have to accept sex perverts, then sex perverts will just have to accept normal people as well
We accept that you are entitled to your equal rights. If only the bigots, homophobes, and christian fundies would do the same for gays & lesbians.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#20 Jan 29, 2012
Tucksun Jack wrote:
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Of course they can. They're a private religious organization. They cna do whatever they want.
Actually they can't. While they can control their membership and access to their facilities, if they venture into renting their facilities out to the general public they have to comply with the same anti-discrimination laws as any other business.

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