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Mar 13, 2014
 
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St. Louis Congregation Seeks to Convert Jews
Local Jews object to Messianic-Lutheran congregationís misleading services
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/165889/st-lou...
"Their mission is to preach that Jesus was the messiah, and to convert their Jewish follows to Christianity. "

An example of why spell check isn't good enough.

And isn't all religion potentially "offensive and misleading?!"

"The congregation is led by Rev. Kevin Parviz, who grew up in an observant Jewish home before marrying a Lutheran woman and converting to Christianity."

He took the next leap of faith and thinks others should to.

It actually makes sense to me that if you're trying to convert people to Christianity, you wouldn't go after Hindus or Muslims when you could go after those who have already bought into the underlying story, Part 1 of the Good Book as it were.

He's only asking them to make that next leap as early Christians did. And as he himself did.

From a marketing point of view, it makes sense. Cost-benefit etc.

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There has been talk lately locally about trying regionalize some the services again - not as county but more like merging services from some local cities with their adjacent towns. But the fact is people are terrified of county taxes because they look over the border at Westchester and see that tax morass.
Darien leverages the Stamford water treatment facility.

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Not sure if you are aware, but if you set up a CT 529 College Savings Plan for your kid(s), you can deduct up to $10,000 a year from your CT income taxes.
I have one. Hopefully my accountant was awake enough to notice. Taxes have been filed.

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"Their mission is to preach that Jesus was the messiah, and to convert their Jewish follows to Christianity. "
An example of why spell check isn't good enough.
And isn't all religion potentially "offensive and misleading?!"
"The congregation is led by Rev. Kevin Parviz, who grew up in an observant Jewish home before marrying a Lutheran woman and converting to Christianity."
He took the next leap of faith and thinks others should to.
It actually makes sense to me that if you're trying to convert people to Christianity, you wouldn't go after Hindus or Muslims when you could go after those who have already bought into the underlying story, Part 1 of the Good Book as it were.
He's only asking them to make that next leap as early Christians did. And as he himself did.
From a marketing point of view, it makes sense. Cost-benefit etc.
There is a picture of the storefront at the bottom of the article. On the right there is signage for a ministry. On the left is the signage for the "Hebrew" congregation. Any real Jew who walks in there would HAVE to be buyer beware. Can't make it any more obvious than that.

Doesnt make it any less offensive.

He gotta know that his success rate will be low, so it doesnt make marketing sense. He is only doing it to stick a thorn in other people's eyes, and in the process to get publicity. Of which he succeeded, apparently. His real audience would be those Christians interested in becoming "biblical Christians", a movement that is definitely growing.

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The courts are still organized by county though not in Fairfield or New Haven counties.
In PA they have yet another layer of gov't called the TownSHIP.(LIke what you're saying, a couple of towns but much smaller than a county.) Often schools and police/fire etc are by township. Does some efficiency result? Maybe.
Lots of ways to get taxed.
NY has a similar system - villages, towns, cities, counties, school districts -often with some degree of overlap - and some with the SAME name except one may be a village while the other is a town. It drives me nuts when I work over the border - never quite sure where I am and who's regs I am under...

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Darien leverages the Stamford water treatment facility.
Rich people sht the same way as us poor people. Except we have to live with the stink.
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I have one. Hopefully my accountant was awake enough to notice. Taxes have been filed.
I paid a few times to have them done then really took a loot at what they were doing.

Not rocket science at all.

Try TurboTax - that's what the pros use.

Easy as pie. Almost idiot-proof!

It gently prompts your through the process.
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There is a picture of the storefront at the bottom of the article. On the right there is signage for a ministry. On the left is the signage for the "Hebrew" congregation. Any real Jew who walks in there would HAVE to be buyer beware. Can't make it any more obvious than that.
Doesnt make it any less offensive.
He gotta know that his success rate will be low, so it doesnt make marketing sense. He is only doing it to stick a thorn in other people's eyes, and in the process to get publicity. Of which he succeeded, apparently. His real audience would be those Christians interested in becoming "biblical Christians", a movement that is definitely growing.
Is it anymore offensive then Nissan targeting Toyota drivers for conversion?

They already like Japanese cars so it's just one step away from Toy to Nissan.
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Rich people sht the same way as us poor people. Except we have to live with the stink.
I though they sent anything nasty over to Jersey!

That's the way it was in the old days.

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I paid a few times to have them done then really took a loot at what they were doing.
Not rocket science at all.
Try TurboTax - that's what the pros use.
Easy as pie. Almost idiot-proof!
It gently prompts your through the process.
The days of me doing my own taxes are long gone. Too many complications - investments, business,depreciation schedules, etc etc. And turbo wont represent you when you get a letter from the IRS, as a friend of mine got - it was an accident on behalf of the IRS but still took time to resolve.

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I though they sent anything nasty over to Jersey!
That's the way it was in the old days.
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The other day I heard a story (will not even speculate if it was true) of hospital demolition waste from out of state being delivered as fill on a private residence here in CT. So it goes both ways.

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Is it anymore offensive then Nissan targeting Toyota drivers for conversion?
They already like Japanese cars so it's just one step away from Toy to Nissan.
With all due respect, of which respect is due, that is a piss poor example to compare.

Remember Saturns? I was even invited to their BBQ once. Did not go.

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I have one. Hopefully my accountant was awake enough to notice. Taxes have been filed.
Check it out. You can always file an amendment if he overlooked it.

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Rich people sht the same way as us poor people. Except we have to live with the stink.
I know better than most. The main pipe that comes in from Darien runs under my street. Two or three years back, that pipe collapsed, causing the raw sewage to spill onto my street and then into the Sound. The shutoff valve on the Darien side was inoperable. Took them a couple of days to turn it off, and then another few weeks to repair the pipe. They had to use temporary above-ground bypass piping. The head of the WPCA "retired" shortly after that. It also brought to light the bad state of affairs, not only of the infrastructure, but of the agency tasked to maintain it.

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Check it out. You can always file an amendment if he overlooked it.
Do you know where on the form the deduction would be?

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Check it out. You can always file an amendment if he overlooked it.
I found it! CHET Line 50 and then line 4. It appears my acountant missed it.
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The days of me doing my own taxes are long gone. Too many complications - investments, business,depreciation schedules, etc etc. And turbo wont represent you when you get a letter from the IRS, as a friend of mine got - it was an accident on behalf of the IRS but still took time to resolve.
I had all that - self-employment, RE business (with deprecation etc) and so on. A bit simpler now but still.

Never been audited. Knock on wood.

Bottom line is you prefer to outsource it and that's cool too.

My 85 year old father in law (farm, investments, stocks etc) still does it with pencil and paper. Harder and harder to track down the actual paper forms for the old school among us.

I have another uncle - almost 80 - well off - and won't even use a calculator. He does all is math long hand.
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The other day I heard a story (will not even speculate if it was true) of hospital demolition waste from out of state being delivered as fill on a private residence here in CT. So it goes both ways.
How the mighty have fallen.

Living in CT used to mean something.

Of course that was also before they had broad-based income tax too!
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With all due respect, of which respect is due, that is a piss poor example to compare.
Remember Saturns? I was even invited to their BBQ once. Did not go.
What you're saying is religion is somehow off limits. Sacred?

I never liked Saturns. GM was always crappy enough without going to their lower product line. Like Geos, same thing.

Though my first new car was a Prizm (Chevy Prizm, after the Geo name had gone away). But it was really a Corolla under the badge. Same assembly line. The Chevy was closer to where I lived than the Toy dealer.

My 2nd new car was a Camry.'06 still driving it. I have a friend who's 62 and never bought a new car in his life. I was proud for only have bought 2. Don't like car payments.
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I know better than most. The main pipe that comes in from Darien runs under my street. Two or three years back, that pipe collapsed, causing the raw sewage to spill onto my street and then into the Sound. The shutoff valve on the Darien side was inoperable. Took them a couple of days to turn it off, and then another few weeks to repair the pipe. They had to use temporary above-ground bypass piping. The head of the WPCA "retired" shortly after that. It also brought to light the bad state of affairs, not only of the infrastructure, but of the agency tasked to maintain it.
Lovely!

And they wondered what happened to the lobsters.

The other theory being fertilizer/chemical run-off. Don't think they ever concluded for sure what killed them off.

Guess they're making a bit of come back....

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