What is the "contradiction between his messiah and the prophecy" from the OT?<quoted text>
I fully understand. However, he was basing his argument on OT originally. The idea being that we couldnt understand our own text properly. If he wants to change his approach, fine. However, that eliminates my participation in this entire discussion as obviously I would never agree.
I get it. Sort of like stealing the Christian thunder!:)<quoted text>
Yes to all of those, that has been my view all along.
Though there are other Jews here that take a more hardline approach and question the historical Jesus as well. I am agnostic on the issue.
However, I direct you to a recent work by Shmuelly Boteach - called "Kosher Jesus" - which advocates the acceptance of the historical Jesus by Jews in an effort to rightfully take possession of some (or all) of his views - somewhat out of pride and somewhat to keep Christian arrogance and anti-semitism in check. Boteach is an orthodox rabbi and he got roasted from within the orthodox rabbinical community for this book (mainly by even broaching the name), but I think more liberal Jews might be more receptive to at least debating the merits and disadvantages of his approach.
I had a good Jewish friend in Philadelphia (since deceased sadly) who was actually a big fan of JC. He really liked his teachings and the whole Jesus thing. This fella was a child of the 60s and could be described as an aging Jewish Jesus Freak. I miss him.