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Juror: Problem believing prosecution claims

There are 29 comments on the Silver City Sun-News story from Dec 17, 2010, titled Juror: Problem believing prosecution claims. In it, Silver City Sun-News reports that:

A juror in the trial of an Arenas Valley man who was found not guilty of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest said she believed the state's case had credibility issues.

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Christine Steele

United States

#21 Dec 19, 2010
On the sidewalk:
The documents relating to each of the arrests state that Mr. Brookes was arrested first and Mrs. Brookes was arrested second.
They are public record. Feel free to request them.
tired of it

Albuquerque, NM

#22 Dec 19, 2010
just saying wrote:
Didn't this have something to do with being over served at Issac's? Greg and his wife drink there all the time. Isn't Issac's who they were protecting, and not the drunk?
Wait a minute. Mary Ann Marlar drinks at Issac's "all the time"?? Mary Ann is (or was) the Director at the Yucca Rehab Program. She is out drinking at night and then counseling alcoholics during the day?? Typical Grant Co hypocrite.

United States

#23 Dec 19, 2010
what did you think the outcome would be when you have a dirty hippie prosecutor

United States

#24 Dec 19, 2010
You mean Greg and his wife were protecting Issac's when they testified?
On the Sidwalk

Santa Fe, NM

#25 Dec 19, 2010
Christine: If that's what the record says than Mrs. Brookes was in cuffs and on the ground before being arrested, and that's possible I suppose. Maybe neither of them were actually written in until after being hauled off, in which case the administration of the events could have gone either way. However the technicalities were logged, when I was there, Robin was handcuffed, sitting on the sidewalk, her legs straight out in front of her, clearly intoxicated, while Kenneth was carrying on raving. Three cops were telling him to step back and calm down as he whipped his finger and yelled about his wife and the cops this and the cops that. Between the two he was by far the more belligerent, aggressive and out of control, perhaps if only because he was still standing, Robin was too drunk to act the way he was acting. My initial impression was that the cops were being way too accommodating by letting him rant for the period of time they let him go on, perhaps hoping he'd ultimately just chill out and let the whole thing defuse. In point of fact, my second impression was that if he had just shut his mouth the cops may have just let the whole thing blow over. It was clear that whatever had gone on leading up that point, he was inflaming the situation into something much worse. As a resident of Silver, and by implication a representative and host for the thousands of people visiting from out of town, I was left feeling disappointed and ashamed by this man. And again, for the record, I don't know these people, frankly I wouldn't recognize either of them if we passed on the sidewalk. For that matter I don't know the cops involved with this either. Despite how the record is written, this is what I saw.

Did I miss something: "All you citizens who say you saw this man going crazy during the incident, why did you not come forward?"

You are absolutely right. I apologize to you and everyone else for not doing so. Having witnessed what I did I should have come forward, it was my responsibility to do so. The reason I didn't was because I didn't think it was necessary. It seemed to me the cop's case was a slam dunk. I should have made the offer though, I will not make that mistake again. This is just not a situation I'm accustomed to finding myself in. Now I know.

Elkstine: I do believe there is no hope for you. I can't begin to fathom what sort of treatment might offer some positive effect for your condition. Maybe a lobotomy? Maybe a few daily bottles of Benadryl? Electroshock therapy? I really don't know but I'm sorry my friend, you've just got way to many birds on your antenna.

Rio Rancho, NM

#26 Dec 20, 2010
I bet if the Police and Sheriffs did thier JOB all the time, We the public would trust them. The Law Enforcement here for the most part sux!
A bike race comes to town we have all cops working. Have a murder and a few work and they never solve the case.


United States

#27 Dec 20, 2010
On the Sidewalk: You did the only thing a SC citizen should do, walk away. If you make a statement or identify yourself in any way, you chance becoming the next victim. The police will give your name and address to the criminals (not in this case but in any crime involving victims and criminals) and they will target you. This is real. I say it without prejudice. Please do not subject yourself or your family to the consequences of dealing with the corruption of law enforcement. Many of us have lived here for years, peacefully. We keep our heads buried in the sand. There are parts of town you never visit, businesses you never enter and you must have a concealed weapon permit. We don't talk about this. Please be careful. Nothing ever changes as much as one wishes it would.
Grant County Resident

Silver City, NM

#28 Dec 20, 2010
FU Elkstine wrote:
The JURY sided with the Defense. Isn't that the way we are supposed to live by. The JURY did not believe the cops and the firemen. THE JURY of this guys peers. Get over it cop lovers.
Actually, it is not necessarily true that the Jury sided with the defense. The only real question asked of a jury in a trial like this is "Did the Prosecution prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty of the charge or charges?" The Jury is reminded that the defendant is believed innocent until PROVEN guilty by the prosecution. You can think the defense did everything or nothing for the case and it doesn't matter. It all falls on the prosecution. Unfortunately for law enforcement, the prosecution apparently did not do that in this case. It means that somewhere, something was doubted...not that everything was doubted. It only takes leaving one little gray area for a possibly guilty person to be set free. That is just how our laws are written and how our justice system was set up. It does NOT mean the Jury doubted every cop and fireman and completely believed the three people off the street...it just means the prosecution left room for doubt.
Those people posting that you saw the incident and believed the man should be found guilty...it is unfortunate you did not come forward before the trial. Perhaps having additional "people off the street" testifying for the prosecution would have helped answer any doubts jurors may have had and helped prove the prosecutions case.
And for those saying this is "typical Grant County", etc. I hate to burst your bubble, but this is not the only place where jury's return "not guilty" verdicts for people that others think are guilty. Ever heard of Organized Crime? The Mob? Millions are released on minor technicalities all over this country everyday. Unless you have been at the trial, heard all of the testimony, read exactly how the law is written, and been reminded that the person is innocent unless proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt...you can't know.
the sad truth

Santa Fe, NM

#29 Dec 20, 2010
First, I would like to set the record straight: New Mexico (as a state) does not have a law making it illegal to be drunk in public. Neither does Silver City or any other City in Grant County. You may not drink in public, but it is not against the law to be drunk in public. Now, if you start being an a$$hole while drunk (as most people do), there is generally a state statute or city ordinance that will cover a charge, such as disorderly conduct, etc.
That being said, it is very evident that the citizens of this county no longer have any confidence in law enforcement or the D.A.'s office. Not sure what it would take to change that, but it seems as though law enforcement has a long way to go in gaining the confidence of Grant County citizens.

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