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Juror: Problem believing prosecution claims

There are 29 comments on the Silver City Sun-News story from Dec 17, 2010, titled Juror: Problem believing prosecution claims. In it, Silver City Sun-News reports that:

A juror in the trial of an Arenas Valley man who was found not guilty of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest said she believed the state's case had credibility issues.

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Silver City Citizen

Santa Fe, NM

#1 Dec 18, 2010
Well all I can say typical Grant County. This moron admitted his wrong doing in open court and guess what, you got it Grant County Justice sets him free. Now wait and see how these jerks act next year during this waste of time bike race. To the Deputy who's only wrong doing was doing your job from all of us who believe that jails were built for a reason I'm sorry.
Mixed Up

AOL

#2 Dec 18, 2010
Sometimes I get it mixed up are we in Venezuela or is this the US?
Read Your Laws

Silver City, NM

#3 Dec 18, 2010
It is not agaist the law to swear in public
FU Elkstine

Cabo San Lucas, Mexico

#4 Dec 18, 2010
Why were all these cops at that exact location? Does it take three cops and 2 firefighters to protect the tire barrier? It's no longer Grant County, it's Russia in all it's glory. These guys are sworn to protect and serve the public. Most have power problems and serve only their egos. In a town in Calif. they have 11 cops on duty to serve a population of 250,000 people. In Grant county they have 6 to 8 cops on duty to give out traffic tickets to a population of 24,000. But you can't count the squad car sweethearts in the parking lot of Jose barrios.(I just think that is so funny that they park their squad cars like they do just to hold hands through the windows of their squad cars. On our tax dollars.)
Al Reine

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Dec 18, 2010
A victory for the anti-police hippies is all this is. Personally, I wish the cop would have just pushed these drunks out in front of the bicyclists and there was a major crash. It would have been justice for everyone and good for a laugh too. Silver City is a cesspool and getting worse every day.
pete and repeat

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Dec 18, 2010
Finally! A case goes to trial! and what comes of it? THIS! What a frikkin joke this is. Is ANYBODY surprised here?

NOT ME!
just saying

United States

#7 Dec 18, 2010
This is justice in $ilver City.
Circe

United States

#8 Dec 18, 2010
Thank you Juror for your candid post about what you experienced. The bad/sad thing about law enforcement is the “brotherhood” mentality that keeps corrupt and incompetent men and women within the ranks of those who are supposed to protect and serve.

Having the right to kill, detain, question and arrest citizens is a power that is commonly abused especially in the tri-county area where Silver City is the hub of power.
Circe

United States

#9 Dec 18, 2010
Silver City Citizen wrote:
Well all I can say typical Grant County. This moron admitted his wrong doing in open court and guess what, you got it Grant County Justice sets him free. Now wait and see how these jerks act next year during this waste of time bike race. To the Deputy who's only wrong doing was doing your job from all of us who believe that jails were built for a reason I'm sorry.
This rehtoric is arrogant.
Circe

United States

#10 Dec 18, 2010
Al Reine wrote:
A victory for the anti-police hippies is all this is. Personally, I wish the cop would have just pushed these drunks out in front of the bicyclists and there was a major crash. It would have been justice for everyone and good for a laugh too. Silver City is a cesspool and getting worse every day.
If you beleive that only hippies are anti-corrupt law enforcement you are...wrong. To wish that the cyclists who participate in the race and those who you consider "drunks" be involved in a "major crash" is wrong. To bad you were not raised to know right from wrong.
Ar Reine

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Dec 18, 2010
Circe wrote:
<quoted text>
If you beleive that only hippies are anti-corrupt law enforcement you are...wrong. To wish that the cyclists who participate in the race and those who you consider "drunks" be involved in a "major crash" is wrong. To bad you were not raised to know right from wrong.
SHOW US where corruption was involved in this case. It wasn't. What you had was a jury member who hates cops for whatever reason and the guilty parties walked free. I hope you need a cop some time. Even better call a hippy INSTEAD of a cop. See what kind of response you get from them. F the cyclists and F the hippies.
On the sidwalk

Santa Fe, NM

#12 Dec 18, 2010
An update on this case was reported here a few weeks back at which time the same people posting about police brutality and false arrest are now criticizing the courts failure to prosecute. You people arent expressing an informed opinion, youre just contributing to chaos.

Elkstine, evidently youve never attended this bike race and witnessed the level of activity taking place at the corner of Broadway and Bullard, otherwise you wouldnt be making your clearly uninformed remark about why so many cops happened to be at that location.

Read Your Laws: No it;s not against the law swear in public. But it is against the law to be drunk in public, to berate cops while theyre in the middle of a bust, to refuse to stand back away from a suspect whos under arrest, and to continue to voice threats, harassment, and act disorderly after being given three warnings to calm down.

To the rest of you, I was there, this guy was drunk, period. His wife, who was arrested first, was so drunk she couldnt stand and was sitting in the sidewalk. And, just to refresh your memory, no Im not a cop, Im not related to a cop, and have no stake in this matter, I just happened to be there.

I now regret not being asked to testify on behalf of the Sheriffs. One thing Id have mentioned is that this guys crazy behavior took place on the Broadway Street side of Isaacs some 40-50 feet back from the intersection. When I saw Greg he was amidst the crowd on the Bullard Street side. He may have witnessed what happened earlier when things played out behind the pylons, but he did not witness what I saw after that.

What evidently happened here is the jury was made to believe the cops and the firefighters were testifying in collusion and therefore gave more credence to what the private citizens had to say. The kind of opinions expressed here would support that, and in the process this guy who should have been paid the consequences for his actions got set free. Congratulations to you all for being a part of the very problem youre whining about.
Coach

Deming, NM

#13 Dec 18, 2010
Wow, I've known officer Leftault since he was a kid. While I haven't spoken to him in years, I doubt he is the man that the juror, the owners of Vicky's, and other witnesses, claim he is. That intersection is, by far, the most dangerous intersection of the downtown race. There have been numerous crashes there over the years and, partially thanks to our public servants, no spectators that I know of have ever been injured in them.

While I didn't witness the incident, the basic premise of an officer keeping a man out of harm's way is noble. The idea that a man, drunk or not, would then swear at the officer is troubling.

I think, even if he didn't evade arrest, he should not have been swearing in front of the kids that gather at that intersection to watch the race. Maybe he shouldn't have gone to trial over it but it's quite obvious he showed very poor judgment.
Coach

Deming, NM

#14 Dec 18, 2010
@on the sidewalk,

Thank you for a perspective. It now sounds like the attorney's office simply should have gotten a wider variety of witnesses. It's sad that we cannot have trust in our public servants. It's probably a result of the few, but highly publicized, actions of bad servants, and the general distrust for authority that many people have.

@Ar Reine,

By stating "F the cyclists" you make your whole point invalid. The cyclists, men and women who train to be top athletes in a grueling sport, had nothing to do with this other than the fact that they were the attraction of all the people, sober or not, at that spot.
Concerned Citizen of GC

Bayard, NM

#15 Dec 18, 2010
This is just amazing people. According to the article, it states the juror thought it was blown out of proportion. How can a drunk man screaming cuss words in a public place be blown out of proportion. I for one would not like my family around anything like that as I was watching a supposed "pro" series event. It appears this case goes far beyond a man being arrested for "failing to move" from a tire barrier. This case is about being drunk and stupid and being able to get away with it in Silver City. Deputy Leftault was doing what his job entails. "keeping the peace". As a peace officer, police officer, or law enforcement officer, or cop, however you may refer to him, he did his job and it appears he did it well that day. The drunk and stupid went to jail.

The problem is that the it appears the system which was put in place long before any of us were around did its job as well. The drunk and stupid do have a right to have a jury trial by there peers. What failed is the fact that the jury looked through the testimony of some highly trained public safety officials (law enforcement and fire fighters) and swayed to the side of the drunk and stupid. It is a known fact, that law enforcement is not a well liked around this part of New Mexico. Lets face it, they bust there butts day in and day out to serve us, the citizens the best they can, with limited resources, through bad weather, holidays, and tough times in there own lives to solve problems for us that have probably been boiling for years in out own lives in 10-15 minuets that we have contact with them. And then when it comes down to it, when the facts are presented in court, to the jury, the peoples peers, it comes down to the jurors not having the guts to convict drunk and stupid people, or anyone that has commited a crime for that matter.

I don't believe that Deputy Leftault would have risked arresting a person that was not doing anything wrong in front of hundreds of other people, just because. The police sometimes have a hard time trying to talk to everyone that is at a scene. They must maintain the the safety of the place, as well as their own safety. For those people who did witness this deal happen, and to all of you that witness something later on down the road, I have a suggestion. If you can add anything to a case like this, please don't hesitate to call the police and tell them, I saw what happened, I would like to give a statement. I am sure you call the police for smaller things then this, barking dogs, my cats in the tree, can you give me directions. Take a minuet out of your lives and help out your fellow people so that crap like this stops, and the people who do stupid stuff are held accountable for their actions. Maybe this an eye opener for the next tour of the gila. Maybe they should not sell booze during the downtown race, and drunk and stupid might be one step closer to being solved.
Bobbie

Silver City, NM

#16 Dec 18, 2010
@ Concerned Citizen of GC.
It is not a crime to be drunk and stupid, even tho at times it should be.

Events like the TOTG also hire outside security, and when it comes to the hard working law enforcement we have here I have to ask if arresting drunks and prosecuting them when the should be solving the unsolved murders that they turn a blind eye on.

As for Central Dispatch and the cat in tree calls, When there where members of a Gang Tearing up my neighbors house, and I called for help I don't think "That's not an emergency." should not been the reply you give a person calling afraid that a Bullet could fly through their home at any moment. Grant County needs an enema.

As for all the "Professional Witnesses" being doubted, they have their own reputations to ride on.
Did I miss something

Silver City, NM

#17 Dec 18, 2010
Circe - did I miss something? Where in the article does Mr. Brookes ADMIT in open court that he was druck and swore 3 times? So if you know about what was said in open court you must of been in the court. I was in court and I only saw the jury, judge, asst. DA, defense and witnesses, no spectators. So which group were you in - law enforcement family members? The newspaper wasn't even there. All you citizens who say you saw this man going crazy during the incident, why did you not come forward? Chickens all of you. Your're mad the outcome wasn't different. Chickens you believe in trial by jury, but not when it does not go your way. Well too bad. Mr. Brookes cannot be charge with being drunk in open court since no sobriety test was given. The charges were disorderly conduct and resisting and Circe if you were in court, you would know that. The asst. DA did not make a good enough case to show either charges and if you all will look at how this whole thing played out, i.e. looking at documents through the court, the DA declined to prosecute but the officer wanted to go forward. If was a stupid case from the beginning and a waste of my tax dollars
get a clue

Bayard, NM

#18 Dec 18, 2010
Read Your Laws wrote:
It is not agaist the law to swear in public
Think again, at a recent hearing cops wanted a guilty on a Petty Misdemeanor for attitude cops can do and charge people for whatever they want even a ridiculous felony charge and get away with it and stick together and lie good for the juror
stand up for what you believe
just saying

United States

#19 Dec 18, 2010
Didn't this have something to do with being over served at Issac's? Greg and his wife drink there all the time. Isn't Issac's who they were protecting, and not the drunk?
FU Elkstine

Cabo San Lucas, Mexico

#20 Dec 18, 2010
So again why were so many cops at the intersection? Does anyone think that these jackbooted Gestapo thugs are going to prevent a crash. That's like saying 50 cops should be at every turn at a Nascar race. can't fix stupid and can't change uncommon sense. The JURY sided with the Defense. Isn't that the way we are supposed to live by. The JURY did not believe the cops and the firemen. THE JURY of this guys peers. Get over it cop lovers.

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