Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#169976 Dec 5, 2012
Dan C wrote:
<quoted text>
By the way genius....a republic is a democratic institution by it's makeup.
The Founding Fathers made those comments given they knew an absolute democracy would not work in regards to the protection of individual rights of the citizens it contained.
Perhaps it's too deep for you to understand but that is a fact.
I'm working on a Dan impression. Let me know how this is, it's rough but it's a start:

Our government was formatted on a full set of liberties that causes no viable inherent harm amongst them. It is aspects dealing with the republic democratic institution by it's makeup they clamor for.

As far as freedoms which groups and some individuals clamor for they are reviewed on the basis of viable inherent harm and formatted on democratic priorities and a Democratic Republic dumbass.

Get lost punk. Geezus! LOL!!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#169977 Dec 5, 2012
Slighted wrote:
What a waste of keypad pad pecking time to continue ther tide has turned in favor, so let it be and it will be worked out.
Says the silly jackass troll as he pecks his ridiculous nonsense on 100 different threads!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#169978 Dec 5, 2012
Dan C wrote:
<quoted text>

I'm beat...
LOL!!!
Yep. Bye!

Too Funny!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#169979 Dec 5, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
<quoted text>
I was "in country" before you were born. I understand English very well and some Vietnamese too. You're welcome for my service you ungrateful coward.
I suggest you don't attempt to insult other people's intelligence with your limited resources and sissy-ass background.
What a jerk!
No attempt needed, and you telling other not to insult will just have everyone laughing at you
DeNuts

Covina, CA

#169980 Dec 5, 2012
Nothing says it better then when you stop yapping Denuts.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#169981 Dec 5, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
No attempt needed, and you telling other not to insult will just have everyone laughing at you
I said ATTEMPT to insult jackass! Pay attention dummy! Or at least attempt to pay attention.

What a dope!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#169982 Dec 5, 2012
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
No attempt needed, and you telling other not to insult will just have everyone laughing at you
Speaking of laughs. We need some. Tell us how Clinton's impeachment "failed in the Senate"!

C'mon Big Dope! Tell us again!

Funny!
Reed

Covina, CA

#169983 Dec 5, 2012
We really don't worry about the likes of you anymore!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#169984 Dec 5, 2012
Dan C wrote:
<quoted text>
Muskets, cannons, cavalries, brother killing brother over ideology, the decimation of the South, etc. was all related to the Civil War.
Are we discussing gay marriage or are we discussing the Civil War DUMBFUCK.
The inclusiuon of the 13th Amendment was used as an illustration to your dumb as a rock ass in explaining why the Amendments exist.
Now if you're so fucking lost in this topic of same sexed marriages that you want to discuss the fashions women wore in 1862 I suggest you find another thread moron.
Is it your opinion that- Lincoln, slavery, the southern states, and the 13th Amendment are NOT related to the Civil War?

Like I said Dan, you are like Rose, you try an post in cryptic noncommittal terms in an attempt to make it impossible for someone to call you out on your nonsense. The only problem- neither you or rose are smart enough to do so.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#169985 Dec 5, 2012
Dan C wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you to claim our nation was not based on democratic principles???
Really????
WOW. What an IDIOT your momma must have raised.
We are a Republic Dan, not a Democracy. You should learn the difference.

Poor Dan, has such a had time admitting he is wrong. Look, he is arguing with the founders now..
"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself."- John Adams
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
Benjamin Franklin
"We are a Republican Government, Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of democracy...it has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity."- Alexander Hamilton
"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%." Thomas Jefferson
"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death."- James Madison
"We may define a republic to be - a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure for a limited period, or during good behavior. It is essential to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion or a favored class of it: otherwise a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their government the honorable title of republic."- James Madison
"Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."- John Marshall
You were saying Dan??

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#169986 Dec 5, 2012
Dan C wrote:
<quoted text>
By the way genius....a republic is a democratic institution by it's makeup.
The Founding Fathers made those comments given they knew an absolute democracy would not work in regards to the protection of individual rights of the citizens it contained.
Perhaps it's too deep for you to understand but that is a fact.
We are a Republic, not a Democracy Dan. You should learn the difference.

Poor Dan, has such a had time admitting he is wrong. Look, he is arguing with the founders now..
"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself."- John Adams
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
Benjamin Franklin
"We are a Republican Government, Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of democracy...it has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity."- Alexander Hamilton
"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%." Thomas Jefferson
"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death."- James Madison
"We may define a republic to be - a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure for a limited period, or during good behavior. It is essential to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion or a favored class of it: otherwise a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their government the honorable title of republic."- James Madison
"Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."- John Marshall
You were saying Dan??

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#169987 Dec 5, 2012
Big D wrote:
People, look up the term "democratic republic"
the US is the first example given.
We are both a democracy of the representative type, and a republic.
Yes, if you look up Democratic Republic in Websters Dictionary you will not find it, i doesn't exits. The only reference in the Democratic Republic of Yemen.

If you look it up on Wiki- you will find some nonsense about it being a hybrid of a republic and a democracy but all sources cited, which are only 2 are from 1997 and 2011. It is a made up term, and has nothing to do with the founding. You will find NOTHING in the writings of the founders referring to the US as anything other than a REPUBLIC. Not a Democracy, and not a Democratic Republic.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#169991 Dec 5, 2012
onetimeatbandcamp wrote:
<quoted text>Why is this so surprising. Are you worried about the sanctity of marriage? What is the divorce rate at now? 60% or so? What a joke.
Now come on, they are desperately trying to preserve the sanctity of Brittany Spears 3 day "just for fun" marriage
Big D

Modesto, CA

#169992 Dec 5, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, if you look up Democratic Republic in Websters Dictionary you will not find it, i doesn't exits. The only reference in the Democratic Republic of Yemen.
If you look it up on Wiki- you will find some nonsense about it being a hybrid of a republic and a democracy but all sources cited, which are only 2 are from 1997 and 2011. It is a made up term, and has nothing to do with the founding. You will find NOTHING in the writings of the founders referring to the US as anything other than a REPUBLIC. Not a Democracy, and not a Democratic Republic.
LOL

I would be more than happy to take away your ability to vote

We have been a democratic republic from the beginning, back to school with you.

Our founders knew too well the danger of a pure democracy, the same as with a pure republic. The examples in history are vivid. Most of the quotes you find are them arguing with those that wanted a pure democracy. The balance between the two is not perfect, but safer than either.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#169997 Dec 5, 2012
Government is not required for marriage.

Smile.
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#169998 Dec 5, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
What's funny is, that he can type in that, and when I type in that same word, I get this: Please refrain from posting profanity or offensive material.
Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator.
LOL!!!

...Well then....STOP.

LOL!
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#170002 Dec 5, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
fffuqqqing gay.
Love your avitar.

And you say you're no 'rpo union'.

Interesting.

Do you in turn emblazon your car with gay pride stickers only to advise those looking that you're anti-gay?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#170003 Dec 5, 2012
Marriage laws at their core exist to tie men to responsibility to their children.

A gay person cannot be put in this position. He/she cannot abandon his/her offspring that were naturally created with a same sex partner.

Marriage is about responsibility, not privilege. Each party has a duty to the other.

Traditionally the man had the responsibility to provide and protect and women had to be faithful and nurture. The laws were designed to support the natural order.

Homosexual relations cannot be part of this natural order because they do not give life and do not need protection the same way that life giving relations do.

:-)
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#170004 Dec 5, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
I get a lot of censorship applied to my posts. Perhaps the moderators are biased.
*Sniff*

**Sniff**

The world is so unfair....
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#170006 Dec 5, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
So, this is the best illustration of all, of dan's character, anarchy and public endangerment. "...myself I'm jazzed we're slapping eight million Christmas lights on the SUV again this year only to drive around and blind people while tempting cops to ticket us.
LOL!!!"
He thinks it's funny to blind drivers and potentially cause traffic accidents, and perhaps a fatality or 2, and to inundate the police force, already overworked fighting crime, with silly and petty acts, designed to endanger the public, and waste valuable resources. Thanks for showing your disregard for the public well-being in yet another way, along with your rants about permitting same sex marriage. You really are an a$$hole. I hope they lock you up for that. I hope that brand new cop gets to cut his teeth on you, perhaps forcing an "attempted vehicular manslaughter" charge on you, and that some zealous D.A. gets ahold of it, and makes it stick.
LOL!!!

What a drama queen you momma raised.

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