Limehouse wants to bill inmates

Read the report Medical Problems of Jail Inmates by the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, highlighting some of the issues associated with providing inmates medical care.

[CAPTAIN_JACK SPARR0W]

LOL Make a dollar anyway they can off a prisoner .
No wonder our prisons and jails are in such a sad state of affairs

[Florence Nightingale]

CAPTAIN_JACK SPARR0W wrote:

LOL Make a dollar anyway they can off a prisoner .
No wonder our prisons and jails are in such a sad state of affairs

I was Nurse for 6years in a state prison, I took care of hundreds of inmates that could and should have been put to work for their medical expenses, instead they lay around not having to work for the bills they are running up daily, what is going to happen when they do get out of prison? They are going to lay around and expect everyone else to foot the bill for them, that's why the system is soooo screwed up now we have to many people who just choose not to work and live on welfare. Now excuse me while I go to work and support the people who choose not too with my taxes.

[shadowavx]

Florence Nightingale wrote:

<quoted text>I was Nurse for 6years in a state prison, I took care of hundreds of inmates that could and should have been put to work for their medical expenses, instead they lay around not having to work for the bills they are running up daily, what is going to happen when they do get out of prison? They are going to lay around and expect everyone else to foot the bill for them, that's why the system is soooo screwed up now we have to many people who just choose not to work and live on welfare. Now excuse me while I go to work and support the people who choose not too with my taxes.

the whole notion of jails and prisons is prehistoric, but the good people in the law enforcement system (judges, lawyers, police), need something to justify their pay.

if they are going to put someone in jail they need to pay all the bills. the system has already taken their time from them, which is arguably more valuable than anything else on the planet.

regardless of the cost, the inmates need care. to do anything less would be inhumane. cut the salaries of the judges and all the rest if there's a budget shortfall.

[DeeG]

many jails charge a small co-pay, usually 5 dollars. medical care is rendered regardless of the inmates ability to pay.
inmates often have money in their accounts and they order snacks, clothing items,phone cards, etc. they don't mind ordering 20 dollars worth of honey buns so they shouldn't mind spending money on medical care. just depends on your priorities.

[DeeG]

shadowavx wrote:

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the whole notion of jails and prisons is prehistoric, but the good people in the law enforcement system (judges, lawyers, police), need something to justify their pay.
if they are going to put someone in jail they need to pay all the bills. the system has already taken their time from them, which is arguably more valuable than anything else on the planet.
regardless of the cost, the inmates need care. to do anything less would be inhumane. cut the salaries of the judges and all the rest if there's a budget shortfall.

the system didn't take their time from them. their inability to refrain from breaking the law put them in jail.

[shadowavx]

DeeG wrote:

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the system didn't take their time from them. their inability to refrain from breaking the law put them in jail.

perhaps.

[Florence Nightingale]

DeeG wrote:

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the system didn't take their time from them. their inability to refrain from breaking the law put them in jail.

Thats exactly right. They chose to commit the crime, prisons are filled with people who have made bad choices. But if they are ever going to learn that what they did was wrong then they are going to have to learn some responsibility. It doesn't mean that they don't get healthcare while they are in jail, it just means they need to reimburse the state for it. Inmates have better healthcare than I can provide for my family.And they get healthcare whether they have money on the books or not. It costs me every time I go to the MD, whether I have the money or not, I have to sacrifice for healthcare because out here in the real world, my healthcare is not free..

[Nurse]

Florence Nightingale wrote:

<quoted text>Thats exactly right. They chose to commit the crime, prisons are filled with people who have made bad choices. But if they are ever going to learn that what they did was wrong then they are going to have to learn some responsibility. It doesn't mean that they don't get healthcare while they are in jail, it just means they need to reimburse the state for it. Inmates have better healthcare than I can provide for my family.And they get healthcare whether they have money on the books or not. It costs me every time I go to the MD, whether I have the money or not, I have to sacrifice for healthcare because out here in the real world, my healthcare is not free..

I know this is off topic but, Im a nurse too, did you like working in a prison? Considering it myself because we have a lot jobs in my area but would like to know what to expect..

[Florence Nightingale]

Nurse wrote:

<quoted text>I know this is off topic but, Im a nurse too, did you like working in a prison? Considering it myself because we have a lot jobs in my area but would like to know what to expect..

I Loved it. But it takes a certain kind of person confidence to work with about 3000 male inmates,500 of which are in a segregated HIV unit. Which is where I use to work. So YES, if I had a chance I would definitly go back and do it again. You meet some really interesting people in a prison. Not all of whom are guilty, and not all of whom are innocent. But if you want depth and mental challenge I would say yes go for it. The pay is most excellent...$23.00/Hr for an LPN, and $30.00/Hr for RN's to start depending on your nursing experience and it is very gratifying to go to work and help people who are grateful for your help. I felt safer working in a prison than any ER I've ever worked...

[Nurse]

Florence Nightingale wrote:

<quoted text>I Loved it. But it takes a certain kind of person confidence to work with about 3000 male inmates,500 of which are in a segregated HIV unit. Which is where I use to work. So YES, if I had a chance I would definitly go back and do it again. You meet some really interesting people in a prison. Not all of whom are guilty, and not all of whom are innocent. But if you want depth and mental challenge I would say yes go for it. The pay is most excellent...$23.00/Hr for an LPN, and $30.00/Hr for RN's to start depending on your nursing experience and it is very gratifying to go to work and help people who are grateful for your help. I felt safer working in a prison than any ER I've ever worked...

Thanks for the info!

[CAPTAIN_JACK SPARR0W]

Florence Nightingale wrote:

<quoted text>I was Nurse for 6years in a state prison, I took care of hundreds of inmates that could and should have been put to work for their medical expenses, instead they lay around not having to work for the bills they are running up daily, what is going to happen when they do get out of prison? They are going to lay around and expect everyone else to foot the bill for them, that's why the system is soooo screwed up now we have to many people who just choose not to work and live on welfare. Now excuse me while I go to work and support the people who choose not too with my taxes.

LMAOOO Uhmm why were they in prison ? Uhhh. Maybe just Maybe because they weren't just laying around ? they were busy robbing killing raping seems they were active in some sort to get time point is they are in the states cusdtody so thats where he become your problem odds are he is in there on some stupid charge he got caught with a gram of marijuana and caught tens years by a judge trying to set an example quit yer bitching you know if what you say is true that some will play it for all it's worth and then there are those who really need it same as out here but charging an inmate for medical is the stupidist idea I think i have ever heard of ya gotta pay the man first before he can be charged and at what 6.00 a day for prison work or what ever they make I know it ain't much ain't gonna generate much money this is just another feeble attempt at some yahoo legislator trying to squeeze another buck out of john q public !
limehouse is a idiot and is as shady as a ravenel check your history both families are from the good ol boy clan the original boyz in the hood lol !

[DeeG]

CAPTAIN_JACK SPARR0W wrote:

<quoted text>LMAOOO Uhmm why were they in prison ? Uhhh. Maybe just Maybe because they weren't just laying around ? they were busy robbing killing raping seems they were active in some sort to get time point is they are in the states cusdtody so thats where he become your problem odds are he is in there on some stupid charge he got caught with a gram of marijuana and caught tens years by a judge trying to set an example quit yer bitching you know if what you say is true that some will play it for all it's worth and then there are those who really need it same as out here but charging an inmate for medical is the stupidist idea I think i have ever heard of ya gotta pay the man first before he can be charged and at what 6.00 a day for prison work or what ever they make I know it ain't much ain't gonna generate much money this is just another feeble attempt at some yahoo legislator trying to squeeze another buck out of john q public !
limehouse is a idiot and is as shady as a ravenel check your history both families are from the good ol boy clan the original boyz in the hood lol !

Many Inmates have money in their accounts. Their friends and family put money in for them. You are probably familiar with that system. The Inmates don't mind spending money on items from the commissary, why would they mind spending money on health care?????????? Oh, I know the answer--because they make poor choices. Most don't pay for medical care when they aren't in jail so I'm sure they don't want to pay for it when they are in jail.
Now, how is Limehouse scheming to squeeze money out of "John Q.Public" ??? John Q.Public is not incarcerated.
Why is drug possession a "stupid charge"? It's against the law. Do something to get the laws changed if you don't agree with them but until then that's the law.
I don't really think Limehouse will get anywhere with this but I think it's a great idea.

[CAPTAIN_JACK SPARR0W]

It's funny how people who have never been imprisoned don't get the concept I invite every one to spend a week locked up just one no special treatment just one of the inmates you look at things a lot differently .
see what it does to your family as well as you. now there are some who can afford it they have plenty of money selling drugs and what not inside but for the average prisoner he is poor he did whatever robbed stole killed for money How the hell is he gonna have enough money to pay for health care ???
his friends and family are doing all they can to help them as it is
now you want them to pay for their health care ?
wish I had of known some guys with all that money when I was locked up ,
They could have helped me pay for the lil I got from the canteen / commissary hey don't you guys make prisoners buy the lil headsets so they can watch tv ? thats just F**ked up! lol

[CAPTAIN_JACK SPARR0W]

shadowavx wrote:

<quoted text>
the whole notion of jails and prisons is prehistoric, but the good people in the law enforcement system (judges, lawyers, police), need something to justify their pay.
if they are going to put someone in jail they need to pay all the bills. the system has already taken their time from them, which is arguably more valuable than anything else on the planet.
regardless of the cost, the inmates need care. to do anything less would be inhumane. cut the salaries of the judges and all the rest if there's a budget shortfall.

LOL I like the way you think .:)

[CAPTAIN_JACK SPARR0W]

DeeG wrote:

many jails charge a small co-pay, usually 5 dollars. medical care is rendered regardless of the inmates ability to pay.
inmates often have money in their accounts and they order snacks, clothing items,phone cards, etc. they don't mind ordering 20 dollars worth of honey buns so they shouldn't mind spending money on medical care. just depends on your priorities.

I'd buy $20.00 worth of honey buns just to make me feel better LOL
It's about your only taste of the outside world you have and it's yours the bastards can't take that away !the prison has just taken you into custody they are in charge of your life till the day your released while imprisoned we will strip you of your rights we will strip you of your dignity anytime we can we will lock you up like a animal in a cage tell you when to eat when to sleep when to do what ever it is we want you to do ... we will call it rehabilitation !
mean time while in the company of your fellow inmates you will learn 5 different ways to kill a man, you will learn how to steal a car and get away with it .
you will learn so much on how to become a career criminal you will learn more than you could ever imagine at this fine institution called prison or as the inmates call it the college for criminals !!!
Now you want to take away my honey bun money ??? screw you ! LOL

[DeeG]

CAPTAIN_JACK SPARR0W wrote:

<quoted text>I'd buy $20.00 worth of honey buns just to make me feel better LOL
It's about your only taste of the outside world you have and it's yours the bastards can't take that away !the prison has just taken you into custody they are in charge of your life till the day your released while imprisoned we will strip you of your rights we will strip you of your dignity anytime we can we will lock you up like a animal in a cage tell you when to eat when to sleep when to do what ever it is we want you to do ... we will call it rehabilitation !
mean time while in the company of your fellow inmates you will learn 5 different ways to kill a man, you will learn how to steal a car and get away with it .
you will learn so much on how to become a career criminal you will learn more than you could ever imagine at this fine institution called prison or as the inmates call it the college for criminals !!!
Now you want to take away my honey bun money ??? screw you ! LOL

Not sure what your problem is... You used to be capable of having an intelligent conversation. "screw you! LOL" - doesn't indicate much intelligence. Nor does putting more value on honey buns than medical care but If the person had good judgment he or she wouldn't be in jail to start with.

Clearly we are not going to agree on this subject. I don't have "bleeding heart syndrome". I think people should take responsibility for their behavior and their decisions. People should live within the rules/ laws and if they disagree with those laws-- work toward changing them.

There is too much whining and "poor me" going on in the world. I do have compassion for people but I believe people should be ready to deal with the consequences of their decisions and try to learn from their mistakes rather than blame others.

All I can say is "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".

Hope you have a good day.

[O Quince E Wo Ja]

CAPTAIN_JACK SPARR0W wrote:

It's funny how people who have never been imprisoned don't get the concept I invite every one to spend a week locked up just one no special treatment just one of the inmates you look at things a lot differently .
see what it does to your family as well as you. now there are some who can afford it they have plenty of money selling drugs and what not inside but for the average prisoner he is poor he did whatever robbed stole killed for money How the hell is he gonna have enough money to pay for health care ???
his friends and family are doing all they can to help them as it is
now you want them to pay for their health care ?
wish I had of known some guys with all that money when I was locked up ,
They could have helped me pay for the lil I got from the canteen / commissary hey don't you guys make prisoners buy the lil headsets so they can watch tv ? thats just F**ked up! lol

OHHHHH.. Thats why you have this opinion, you were an inmate. Well of course YOU would have that opinion. Inmates never think its their fault, its always the other persons fault, of course you are going to think that you shouldn't have to pay for your crime,,, it wasn't your fault. Well let me tell you there are laws in this country, laws that are suppose to be followed to the letter, I follow those laws to the best of my ability and have never had to go to jail, I guess the old addage was right if you can't do the time then don't do the crime...I can't do the time,,WHY,,, because my family needs me to go to work and put food on the table and not get caught up in some illeagal bullsh*t that lands me in jail....If you do the crime you should do the time and you shouldn't get ANY perks, prison is a punishment not a privilege

[CAPTAIN_JACK SPARR0W]

LOL yep thats right stand on the other side of the bars and preach that sh%t !
Doesn't matter whether you broke the law or not you idiot ! you can still get locked up and as a friend of mine from the Cayce police department likes to say you are guilty until proven innocent !
And as for you DEEGEE I can carry on an intelent conversation but it's hard to do that when your dealing with people who think one sided You work for the system Of course you would feel that way But I guarantee if you were standing on the other side of the bars you would see things differently
The Screw you was a joke ! But I guess Stuffed shirts wouldn't get the point only us criminals would get it HUH?
Alabama Kiss my A$$$ Pal!

[Simple Man]

capn, for obvious reasons youre super sensitive to this, so no youre not capable of having a rational conversation.
if youre a ward of the state, then the state is obligated to take care of your basic essential needs. a percentage money you obtain should go towards paying for your stay. dude, im working my azz off and im poor as sheit. but im taking care of business because thats what youre suppose to do. the same principals need to apply to inmates as well.
now let me really pizz ya off...thats deeg bro!
c'mon

I still like ya - azzhole

[CAPTAIN_JACK SPARR0W]

AND????
I still say stand on the other side and say that sh%t
Yes I'm very Opinionated about this Now or anytime Theres a difference between an inmate and say the guy who broke his baby's back over the side rail of the crib !
You would understand and DEE Gee Would not !she works for the system the mentality is your in here your a bad person and you deserve what ever you get That's bs !
This has nothing to do with the current situation this has to do with if a man or women is in there what set of circumstances drove them there . what if he can't afford the medical expense ? Here let me put it this way you say your poor as sh%t Wrong ! get locked up while your poor then your poor as sh&t ! thats what I'm trying to say adding one more problem for the inmate is not going to help .
and if she believes so firmly in her Belief then I guess that she wouldn't treat a inmate who couldn't afford To pay his/her medical bill while in there Every circumstance is different bud and you know this to be a fact I made a statement she came gunning for me You know that's gonna slide by me .
Prison and jail two of the most Cruelest forms of punishment I can imagine ! short of torture . You can't lock your kid up in there room and give them the same basics as jail or prison thats called child abuse and inhumane , but it's ok to do this to an adult?
Although some prisoners deserve much worse ! Who is the politician to say that prisoners should pay ? he's rich and has never had the pleasure of time behind bars The rich always come up with these brilliant ideas because it doesn't affect them They support such stupidity put them in prison or jail take away their money and clout see what their opinion of it is then ?