Student says attack was hate crime

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Cpetr13 wrote:

Your attitude is why AIDS is spreading among straight people.
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You're an idiot. I do not have any reason to be tested. The best you came up with if I contact an infected persons bodily fluid through an open cut. I'll certainly take my chances wrt that. I might get hit with a brick in the head but I don't wear a hard hat everytime I leave the house. And it certainly is a trust issue if you're getting tested for purposes of fidelity with a spouse. I've been married almost 25 years. Sure, that doesn't guarantee my spouse will never cheat, but it does guarantee I trust her. Therefore, no need for a test.

And your comment about my attitude is why the disease is spreading among the hetero people. OMG!!! Are you smoking some weed? The spread of HIV amoung hetero people can be attributed to IV drugs and sleeping around, assuming it's spreading among hetero people. I do not know that for a fact and you saying it doesn't make it true.

You're an idiot if you think long term married couples is why the HIV is spreading among heteros.

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Cpetr13 wrote:

Is trust why you people have a 50% divorce rate? And what on earth would you know about gay relationships?
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First of all Mr. Idiot, divorce doesn't always result from infidelity. Secondly, the divorce rate has nothing to do with the trust my wife and I have with each other. They are completely mutually exclusive. You go ahead and get tested all you want, but until I am even at a low moderate risk of contracting AIDS, I would never show that type of mistrust to my wife. How much more disrespectful could one be?

[Consistent]

Cpetr13 wrote:

Goodie for you. But while you are trusting her with your life, she could be having a little on the side. It would not indicate that she didn't love you, but the fact is that adultery exists and to pretend it could not happen in your relationship is Pollyamma thinking at its finest. Not that you should be paranoid, but be realistic.
On the other hand, if you don't have sex with anyone else, it's your choice, since you wont' be infecting anyone else.
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This Hometown TOPIX site.

(your local Rocket Scientist is over at the Twincities Topix site making a fool of himself there too)

.....Good stuff, come see.

[Dyssonance]

well...

james appears to have put on blinders.

Secondly, the primary reason that msm sourced HIV is spreading among heterosexuals is not needle sharing or blood transfusions.

It's sexual intercourse. Presumably among trusting, monogamous pairs and singles looking for a hook up.

The blame game for AIDS and the use of a false statistic based on what was literally called "bad science" regarding gay promiscuity are both equally foolish.

AIDS is not a gay disease. Its a human one. And the only way to be certain that you do not have it, period, is to be tested.

Three times in 18 months.

The primary carriers are male.

And the only reason not to get tested is fear.

[Tracy M]

Cpetr13 wrote:

AIDS is rising in the straight community and you want to play silly name-calling games. You're an idiot.
Keep pretending that there is no such thing as adultery or that married men have sex with other men or prostitutes. Ignorance is its own reward, and intentional ignorance yields the highest rewards of all.
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Silly word games...then you call me an idiot...priceless!
I'm not pretending anything...fact is, I have no worries as you may think I should...
Simply because other heteros are permiscuous, doesn't mean that my wife and I are...
Anyone commiting adultry should be tested...no question.

If I had the slightest thought or feeling that my wife was cheating on me...I would have no reason to be married to her...
You must understand that simply because some people do not hold the same value in their marriage as mine, doesn't mean I must or need to follow their same caution in their relationship.
You are a generalizationist...what applies to some, certainly does not apply to all.

[Cpetr13]

Honey, go ahead and catch it, I don't care. But there are a hell of a lot of spouses who got it from their "faithful" partners. If you don't give a damn about your health, why should I? You acknowledge that ther4e is no guarantee of fidelity and say there is no reason to get tested? Fine. It's your funeral. I've sen too many people die from AIDS; I won't bother to mourn someone who deliberately plays roulette with their lives.

lol wrote:

<quoted text>You're an idiot. I do not have any reason to be tested. The best you came up with if I contact an infected persons bodily fluid through an open cut. I'll certainly take my chances wrt that. I might get hit with a brick in the head but I don't wear a hard hat everytime I leave the house. And it certainly is a trust issue if you're getting tested for purposes of fidelity with a spouse. I've been married almost 25 years. Sure, that doesn't guarantee my spouse will never cheat, but it does guarantee I trust her. Therefore, no need for a test.
And your comment about my attitude is why the disease is spreading among the hetero people. OMG!!! Are you smoking some weed? The spread of HIV amoung hetero people can be attributed to IV drugs and sleeping around, assuming it's spreading among hetero people. I do not know that for a fact and you saying it doesn't make it true.
You're an idiot if you think long term married couples is why the HIV is spreading among heteros.

[Cpetr13]

I didn't say all divorces spring from infidelity, but a major portion of them do. Andi can guarantee you that most of those cuckolded spouses were certain of their partner's fidelity.

It is not disrespectful to insure that you cannot infect your spouse with a fatal illness. I suppose she should never be tested for the HPV tht can cause cancer, because she might have gotten it from you.

lol wrote:

<quoted text>First of all Mr. Idiot, divorce doesn't always result from infidelity. Secondly, the divorce rate has nothing to do with the trust my wife and I have with each other. They are completely mutually exclusive. You go ahead and get tested all you want, but until I am even at a low moderate risk of contracting AIDS, I would never show that type of mistrust to my wife. How much more disrespectful could one be?

[Cpetr13]

WTF are you talking about?

Consistent wrote:

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This Hometown TOPIX site.
(your local Rocket Scientist is over at the Twincities Topix site making a fool of himself there too)
.....Good stuff, come see.

[Tracy M]

Dyssonance wrote:

Presumably among trusting, monogamous pairs and singles looking for a hook up.

Adultry and "trusting, monogamous pairs" totally goes against each other...

Trusting, monogamous pairs do not commit adultry...you presented an oxymoron...as if they did commit adultry, then they certainly wouldn't be trusting, monogamous...now would they?

[Cpetr13]

I saw too many good men die from this disease to take it lightly, and that is why I learned the guidelines to teach others how to avoid unsafge sexual practivces and situations. But when people deliberately pretend that they are immune to getting or giving it, I have to admit that I really dont' care. They've made their choice (and probably have never even broached the subject with their spouses.)

I don't find it all that respectful to someone you claim to love. So voices of reason are ignored and they live in their little Pollyanna world.

Dyssonance wrote:

well...
james appears to have put on blinders.
Secondly, the primary reason that msm sourced HIV is spreading among heterosexuals is not needle sharing or blood transfusions.
It's sexual intercourse. Presumably among trusting, monogamous pairs and singles looking for a hook up.
The blame game for AIDS and the use of a false statistic based on what was literally called "bad science" regarding gay promiscuity are both equally foolish.
AIDS is not a gay disease. Its a human one. And the only way to be certain that you do not have it, period, is to be tested.
Three times in 18 months.
The primary carriers are male.
And the only reason not to get tested is fear.

[Cpetr13]

One spouse may be trusting and monogamous and the other might be a raving slut (regardless of gender). How many married people admit to having an affair without actually being caught?

Tracy M wrote:

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Adultry and "trusting, monogamous pairs" totally goes against each other...
Trusting, monogamous pairs do not commit adultry...you presented an oxymoron...as if they did commit adultry, then they certainly wouldn't be trusting, monogamous...now would they?

[Tracy M]

Cpetr13 wrote:

Honey, go ahead and catch it, I don't care. But there are a hell of a lot of spouses who got it from their "faithful" partners. If you don't give a damn about your health, why should I? You acknowledge that ther4e is no guarantee of fidelity and say there is no reason to get tested? Fine. It's your funeral. I've sen too many people die from AIDS; I won't bother to mourn someone who deliberately plays roulette with their lives.
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We are beginning to see some truths here...
You obviously are someone that is in a relationship and is not quite sure that your partner is 100% monogamous...

How can anyone be in a relationship if they have that feeling??? That is a sure sign of greed, someone that seeks their own personal gratification, and not the relationship.

You do not have the trust or confidence in your partner...sad that they are simply there for your pleasure...that is why we have the spread of HIV/AIDS...if your partner and you both have this insecurity...no wonder you are both non-trusting of one another.

[Cpetr13]

Don't try to analyze things, because you suck t it. Badly.

I am not in a relationship at all. I was in one for 14 years, and we parted amicably; we are still best friends.

Despite your statements to the contrary, there are many hetero couples that do NOT break up over affairs; many even have open marriages, where sex isn't the focal point of their relationship. People have many different kinds of relationships.

Why be in a relationship that isn't 100% faithful? Because there is a difference between lust and love. As many put it, "As long as they play safely and come home every night, who cares?"

I could just as easily say that, by your description of your relationship, you seem to claim possession of your spouse, like she is your property. But people aren't property, and they aren't perfect. Once you love someone, you have to compromise if you want to make it work. You dont' sound like compromise is part of your skill set.

Tracy M wrote:

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We are beginning to see some truths here...
You obviously are someone that is in a relationship and is not quite sure that your partner is 100% monogamous...
How can anyone be in a relationship if they have that feeling??? That is a sure sign of greed, someone that seeks their own personal gratification, and not the relationship.
You do not have the trust or confidence in your partner...sad that they are simply there for your pleasure...that is why we have the spread of HIV/AIDS...if your partner and you both have this insecurity...no wonder you are both non-trusting of one another.

[Danali]

Dyssonance wrote:

well...
james appears to have put on blinders.
Secondly, the primary reason that msm sourced HIV is spreading among heterosexuals is not needle sharing or blood transfusions.
It's sexual intercourse. Presumably among trusting, monogamous pairs and singles looking for a hook up.
The blame game for AIDS and the use of a false statistic based on what was literally called "bad science" regarding gay promiscuity are both equally foolish.
AIDS is not a gay disease. Its a human one. And the only way to be certain that you do not have it, period, is to be tested.
Three times in 18 months.
The primary carriers are male.
And the only reason not to get tested is fear.

Lady, you are the one with the blinders on. I wouldn't trust your judgement for nothing. AIDS is a gay disease and they infected the rest of the planet. I would be scared of anything you tell anybody. What a jacknape.

[Dyssonance]

Danali wrote:

<quoted text>Lady, you are the one with the blinders on. I wouldn't trust your judgement for nothing. AIDS is a gay disease and they infected the rest of the planet. I would be scared of anything you tell anybody. What a jacknape.

Then be scared.

I don't mind -- you'll be the one living in fear.

AIDS started among the het population. Sorry you have a hard time with that.

Your ignorance will kill you. I won't mourn.

[Dyssonance]

Tracy M wrote:

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Adultry and "trusting, monogamous pairs" totally goes against each other...
Trusting, monogamous pairs do not commit adultry...you presented an oxymoron...as if they did commit adultry, then they certainly wouldn't be trusting, monogamous...now would they?

um, no, it doesn't.

The culture we live in practices *serial monogamy*. The partners before and the partners after count against as risk.

With the increase in the number of previously married individuals in new marriages, as a result of serial monogamy, the risk of HIV spreading in monogamous marriages increases significantly.

And tht's not *even* counting the social aspects of being masculine in the Us culture, where virility is measured by the ability to bed women (who are, in turn, measured by their unwillingness to do so).

So you have either a lot of men screwing a very few women, or a whole lot of lying going on.

[Consistent]

Dyssonance wrote:

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um, no, it doesn't.
The culture we live in practices *serial monogamy*. The partners before and the partners after count against as risk.
With the increase in the number of previously married individuals in new marriages, as a result of serial monogamy, the risk of HIV spreading in monogamous marriages increases significantly.
And tht's not *even* counting the social aspects of being masculine in the Us culture, where virility is measured by the ability to bed women (who are, in turn, measured by their unwillingness to do so).
So you have either a lot of men screwing a very few women, or a whole lot of lying going on.

Does it ever occur to people like you and the Gay Piratre Dude, just exactly how messed up you are as Human Beings?

Does it cause physical pain to create such distorted thoughts, and then attempt to type them out?
I am serious...I know you are not alone,there is a whole sub-culture of Deviants that have similar problems with honesty, integrity, and reality.

But, I would like to hear you explain your condition, how you got to be so messed up, and what you are doing to establish yourself as a normal functioning human being.

[Dyssonance]

Consistent wrote:

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Does it ever occur to people like you and the Gay Piratre Dude, just exactly how messed up you are as Human Beings?
Does it cause physical pain to create such distorted thoughts, and then attempt to type them out?
I am serious...I know you are not alone,there is a whole sub-culture of Deviants that have similar problems with honesty, integrity, and reality.
But, I would like to hear you explain your condition, how you got to be so messed up, and what you are doing to establish yourself as a normal functioning human being.

Hi again, Consistent.

No -- just how messed up as a human being am I, and what is your comparative to make such an assumption?

I'm afraid you'll have to describe which thoughts and how they are distorted and what you use, again, for your baseline in that comparison in order for me to properly answer the second question.

All human beings are deviants -- all persons deviate from some norm. SO you are right, I am not alone -- and its inclusive of you.

What issues, specifically, with honesty, integrity, and reality do you perceive, and what are the sources for your opinion (since you are not qualified to make such assessments).

My condition is human. I'm not particularly messed up. I am already a functional human being, and normal requires two points for relation (normal is relative) and I'm going to need your two points in order to determine what you are using as your mean.

So what are your two points?

You want answers, and I'd love to give them to you -- but you need to provide more information in order for me to be able to communicate them to you at a level you are capable of grasping :D

Answer the questions above and I will be able to answer yours more effectively and accurately.

And I will do so.

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Cpetr13 wrote:

Honey, go ahead and catch it, I don't care. But there are a hell of a lot of spouses who got it from their "faithful" partners. If you don't give a damn about your health, why should I? You acknowledge that ther4e is no guarantee of fidelity and say there is no reason to get tested? Fine. It's your funeral. I've sen too many people die from AIDS; I won't bother to mourn someone who deliberately plays roulette with their lives.
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Catch what? Baseball fever? You sound like AIDS is a heterosexual epidemic for long term married couples. Well......... sorry ... excuse me. I'm still picking myself up off the floor from laughing at you so hard. Being gay, you have plenty more to worry about wrt AIDS than couples who have been married for more than 25 years. You better wear that hard hat when you leave the house. You'll never know when a brick will fall out of the sky and hit you on top of the head. ROFL!

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Cpetr13 wrote:

It is not disrespectful to insure that you cannot infect your spouse with a fatal illness. I suppose she should never be tested for the HPV tht can cause cancer, because she might have gotten it from you.
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OMG!!!! How can I give my wife AIDS if I'm not at risk myself, other than bodily fluid transmission from a cut? And I do not leave cuts exposed especially around high risk AIDS people such as yourself. Yes, it's extremely disrespectful if I am getting an AIDS test because I do not trust my wife being faithful. I can't imagine the type of relationship you have with your spouse, assuming you have one. Then again, I don't want to know. Like I said in my previous post, you'd better worry just about yourself and your gay friends. Personally speaking, my wife and I have no issues when it comes to AIDS. Thanks for your concern though. LOL.