Jehovah's Witnesses gather for show o...

Jehovah's Witnesses gather for show of...

There are 29 comments on the www.caller.com story from Aug 24, 2008, titled Jehovah's Witnesses gather for show of.... In it, www.caller.com reports that:

J.D. Garcia delivers his speech, 'Speaking the Word of God with Boldness,' at the convention.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.caller.com.

First Prev
of 2
Next Last
faith or works

Grapevine, TX

#1 Aug 24, 2008
CHRISTIAN APOLOGETICS & RESEARCH MINISTRY www.carm.org

The Watchtower organization states that Jesus died on a stake, not a cross. The typical Watchtower representation of this is with Jesus on a single vertical stake, hands over his head with a single nail in his wrists. If Jesus were crucified on a cross, then two nails would be necessary, one in each hand. How then does the Watchtower organization handle the verse in the Bible that states that Jesus had nails (plural) in his hands: "Consequently the other disciples would say to him: "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them: "unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, I will certainly not believe" (John 20:25, NWT).
Jesus had one nail in each hand. This is made clear by the use of the word ‘nails’ not ‘nail.’ Jesus must have been crucified on a cross, and not a stake as the Watchtower organization teaches. Why is it, then, that the Watchtower teaches something that is so clearly unbiblical?
The Watchtower organization states that through good works and sincere effort only 144,000 elite JW’s will go to heaven. The 144,000 are mentioned in two chapters in the Bible: Revelation 7 & 14. By looking at the verses it is obvious that the 144,000 are literal Jews of the ancient tribes with no Gentiles among them (7:4-8). They are all males (14:4) and virgins (14:4). If the JW states that the usage of Jewish male virgins is figurative, what gives them the right to state that number of 144,000 is literal?
Where does it teach in the Bible that Jesus is Michael the archangel? Why isn't Jesus called Michael right now since he is in heaven?
get him

Cotulla, TX

#2 Aug 24, 2008
I am not Jehovah nor do I believe in some of the stuff they believe in but I have to say that a lot of their beliefs are very similar to Christianity. They are humble and not materialistic. I admire them for their commitment. They believe in God. There are so many different things being said about their beliefs but I have to say I respect them.
Believer

Grapevine, TX

#3 Aug 26, 2008
get him wrote:
I am not Jehovah nor do I believe in some of the stuff they believe in but I have to say that a lot of their beliefs are very similar to Christianity. They are humble and not materialistic. I admire them for their commitment. They believe in God. There are so many different things being said about their beliefs but I have to say I respect them.
Respect and accept as truth are two diff. subjects. The Bible says to worship in spirit and truth. John 4:24 / That's the crazy thing with Christianity -38,000 denominations? What we need to do is to align what they say with the Bible. I don't mean some of the things but all what they believe. This is how we find out who is telling the truth. Jesus said the truth will set us free. John 8:32-36
get him

Cotulla, TX

#4 Aug 27, 2008
Do you know how many bibles are out there? How are we suppose to know which version is the right one?
Topsy Crett

Houston, TX

#6 Aug 28, 2008
UDDER BULLSH*T
Topsy Crett

Spring, TX

#7 Aug 28, 2008
I dont know what your milk tastes like, but perhaps you ought to try a new brand Troll.
Topsy Crett

Houston, TX

#8 Aug 28, 2008
I dont know what your milk tastes like, but perhaps you ought to try a new brand Troll.
Dr Martinez

Dallas, TX

#9 Jun 16, 2009
its all [email protected] 6
Father Gi Gi Allen

San Antonio, TX

#10 Jun 16, 2009
faith or works wrote:
CHRISTIAN APOLOGETICS & RESEARCH MINISTRY www.carm.org
The Watchtower organization states that Jesus died on a stake, not a cross. The typical Watchtower representation of this is with Jesus on a single vertical stake, hands over his head with a single nail in his wrists. If Jesus were crucified on a cross, then two nails would be necessary, one in each hand. How then does the Watchtower organization handle the verse in the Bible that states that Jesus had nails (plural) in his hands: "Consequently the other disciples would say to him: "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them: "unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, I will certainly not believe" (John 20:25, NWT).
Jesus had one nail in each hand. This is made clear by the use of the word ‘nails’ not ‘nail.’ Jesus must have been crucified on a cross, and not a stake as the Watchtower organization teaches. Why is it, then, that the Watchtower teaches something that is so clearly unbiblical?
The Watchtower organization states that through good works and sincere effort only 144,000 elite JW’s will go to heaven. The 144,000 are mentioned in two chapters in the Bible: Revelation 7 & 14. By looking at the verses it is obvious that the 144,000 are literal Jews of the ancient tribes with no Gentiles among them (7:4-8). They are all males (14:4) and virgins (14:4). If the JW states that the usage of Jewish male virgins is figurative, what gives them the right to state that number of 144,000 is literal?
Where does it teach in the Bible that Jesus is Michael the archangel? Why isn't Jesus called Michael right now since he is in heaven?
Jesus died on a cross,not a steak,dumb-ass.Who ever wrote the bible you must of been a misprint.
columbo atheist

United States

#11 Jun 16, 2009
get him wrote:
I am not Jehovah nor do I believe in some of the stuff they believe in but I have to say that a lot of their beliefs are very similar to Christianity. They are humble and not materialistic. I admire them for their commitment. They believe in God. There are so many different things being said about their beliefs but I have to say I respect them.
Hey gh, They look legit on the surface. if you dig a little deeper you'l open up a can of worm's tha'l blow your mind!!
Nomi

Elliston, VA

#12 Jun 16, 2009
The word cross, is not even in the Bible. The Greek word, "stauros", is more likely rendered as an upright stake...without a crossbeam. AND there would be nails in the hands and feet.
faith or works wrote:
CHRISTIAN APOLOGETICS & RESEARCH MINISTRY www.carm.org
The Watchtower organization states that Jesus died on a stake, not a cross. The typical Watchtower representation of this is with Jesus on a single vertical stake, hands over his head with a single nail in his wrists. If Jesus were crucified on a cross, then two nails would be necessary, one in each hand. How then does the Watchtower organization handle the verse in the Bible that states that Jesus had nails (plural) in his hands: "Consequently the other disciples would say to him: "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them: "unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, I will certainly not believe" (John 20:25, NWT).
Jesus had one nail in each hand. This is made clear by the use of the word ‘nails’ not ‘nail.’ Jesus must have been crucified on a cross, and not a stake as the Watchtower organization teaches. Why is it, then, that the Watchtower teaches something that is so clearly unbiblical?
The Watchtower organization states that through good works and sincere effort only 144,000 elite JW’s will go to heaven. The 144,000 are mentioned in two chapters in the Bible: Revelation 7 & 14. By looking at the verses it is obvious that the 144,000 are literal Jews of the ancient tribes with no Gentiles among them (7:4-8). They are all males (14:4) and virgins (14:4). If the JW states that the usage of Jewish male virgins is figurative, what gives them the right to state that number of 144,000 is literal?
Where does it teach in the Bible that Jesus is Michael the archangel? Why isn't Jesus called Michael right now since he is in heaven?
columbo atheist

United States

#13 Jun 16, 2009
get him wrote:
Do you know how many bibles are out there? How are we suppose to know which version is the right one?
All bibles were written by men from the middle east. So the whole world is hanging on every word of a man written book that claims to be written by god. I think If I were god I would skip the book and show up in person and say Its me every body gather round, Now heres the deal.When theres a book floating around.nobodys sure who wrote this part who wrote that part. Then the jw's come along and change the words. Its a free for all.We dont know if the men who wrote the bible were like the taliban were fighting with now.Because the old testament was pretty brutal. God had a chip on his shoulder.Then I think when people were getting turned off by the meaness.It changed to the kind jesus new testament.then every body jumped on the band wagon.
unlisted

Greensboro, NC

#14 Jun 16, 2009
who="get him"]I am not Jehovah nor do I believe in some of the stuff they believe in but I have to say that a lot of their beliefs are very similar to Christianity. They are humble and not materialistic. I admire them for their commitment. They believe in God. There are so many different things being said about their beliefs but I have to say I respect them

not materialist??? 951 million dollars in prime real estate? not materialistic
columbo atheist

United States

#15 Jun 16, 2009
Nomi wrote:
The word cross, is not even in the Bible. The Greek word, "stauros", is more likely rendered as an upright stake...without a crossbeam. AND there would be nails in the hands and feet.
<quoted text>
Nomi, why does your first president of the wt have a cross and free mason masonic symbol on his grave stone. Was he a idol worshiper? I thought you jw's were against crosses and symbols.Im confused dog!!!
unlisted

Greensboro, NC

#16 Jun 16, 2009
don't say that you will hurt her karma and she does not speak with apostates and non jws..
Jim Dandy

Hampton Park, Australia

#17 Jun 16, 2009
faith or works wrote:
The 144,000 are mentioned in two chapters in the Bible: Revelation 7 & 14. By looking at the verses it is obvious that the 144,000 are literal Jews of the ancient tribes with no Gentiles among them (7:4-8).
The list of 12 tribes in Revelation is different from the list in Exodus and elsewhere. It includes Levi and Joseph in place of Joseph's 2 sons

“Free Hearing Aid Products”

Since: Jul 09

Corpus Christi Texas

#18 Jul 30, 2009
The 2009-2010 District Convention "Keep On The Watch" will be held this year at the AmericanBank Center Area begining August 21, 2009.

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#19 Jul 30, 2009
Nomi wrote:
The word cross, is not even in the Bible. The Greek word, "stauros", is more likely rendered as an upright stake...without a crossbeam. AND there would be nails in the hands and feet.
<quoted text>
What? And torture stake IS in the Bible? NO!

What was the “one piece of timber” used in Jesus’ day?

“Stauros in the NT… was a pole sunk into the ground with a cross-bar fastened to it giving it a ‘T’ shape. Often the word ‘cross’ referred only to the cross-bar.”—The Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible, vol. 1, 1976, pp. 1037-1038

Did Jesus have one nail or two nails in His hands?

“Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails… I will certainly not believe.”—John 20:25, NWT

Was the sign posted above Jesus’ head or hands?

“Also, they posted above his head the charge against him…”—Matthew 27:37, NWT

Do you “boast” in the cross of Christ?

“But may it never be that I would boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ…”—Galatians 6:14, NASB
Jackie

United States

#20 Aug 2, 2009
Topsy Crett wrote:
UDDER BULLSH*T
What were you referring to here topsey?
Jackie

United States

#21 Aug 2, 2009
Topsy Crett wrote:
I dont know what your milk tastes like, but perhaps you ought to try a new brand Troll.
Looks to me that the topsey-boy likes those one liners himself!

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Aransas Pass Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
rick wiginton (Oct '14) Jul 19 Carlos 41
Michelle Mayhall Jul 16 karen 1
Kiewit women (Apr '14) Jul 15 Dude 8
Best Card reader in Rockport Jun 23 Icefishing 1
Mrs Pete's (Jul '09) Jun 22 CharlesH 16
In need of bud Jun '17 Anonymous 2
Need a big one Jun '17 1n33dh3ad 3

Aransas Pass Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Aransas Pass Mortgages