Arab Animal Shelter
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Linda Morris

Guntersville, AL

#1 Apr 15, 2013
The Arab Animal Shelter needs lots of improvements - both to the building and to the management practices. A facebook page has been started for those wishing to make suggestions and to advocate for improvements. It is an open discussion, so anyone wanting to make a comment can simply ask to join and you will be added as soon as any current member notices. https://www.facebook.com/groups/5576916809384...

I recommend that you search the internet for 'animal shelter ratings' and see how the Arab Animal Shelter stacks up. The rating at
http://pro-shelter.com/animal-shelter-rating-...
puts the Arab Animal Shelter at 8 points - "Score 0 to 24 — Unsatisfactory, shelters in this range are not assisting companion animals and are out of touch with the needs of our society. By running a substandard animal shelter you not only bring down the reputation of animal shelters as a whole, you may even be contributing to the problem. Serious changes need to be made immediately. See the summary information below for more information."
Linda Morris

Guntersville, AL

#2 Apr 15, 2013
I'm not sure why this shows up in Alberville when I live in Arab. It must be a charter.com problem.
Rex

Arab, AL

#3 Apr 21, 2013
Is the shelter funded by the city of Arab or the County?
Linda Morris

Guntersville, AL

#4 Apr 22, 2013
The shelter is funded by the city.
Linda Morris

Guntersville, AL

#5 Apr 22, 2013
If you are worried about City of Arab funding, I think that you should bear in mind the amount of money the city spends on land deals, advertising, landscaping, and other things, and then compare it to what is spent on the Arab Animal Shelter.

The shelter needed repairs years ago and is even worse now. There needs to be a shelter manager, separate from the ACO, and maybe some part-time help on weekends and holidays. Volunteers need to be totally welcome and able to enter the shelter for medical care, socialization and basic training (sit, leash), and grooming to give the animals a better chance of being adopted, as well as helping with the adoptions. The shelter also needs to be open to the public during set hours, and through volunteer help at other times.

Arab is a good city, made up of really good people, but you could not tell it from the way the shelter is run.

Costs for vaccinations and spay/neuter (state law) can be paid by the person adopting the animal. With volunteer help we can bring those costs down.

For those concerned about the cost of a shelter manager, it will add a local job and the part-time job could help a teenager save for college.

We pay taxes in order to receive city services and to have those services be user-friendly, well run, and to present a good image of the city. The Arab Animal Shelter currently fails on all counts.
Red

Arab, AL

#6 Apr 22, 2013
Wasn't this tried a coup,e years ago. And failed. The cost for this was extreamly high.
Linda Morris

Guntersville, AL

#7 Apr 22, 2013
The cost for this was actually quite reasonable considering the amount of repairs needed and the amount already being spent on a full time ACO. But the APD objected and the city council punted. The next mayor and city council chose land deals and such over the wishes of the residents.

Our city council needs to stand up and do the right thing. And again, compare the cost to the amount spent on other city services and consider how many people in Arab have pets and/or want to see a well run shelter we can be proud of instead of ashamed of.

Please contact your city councilmen and urge that money be spent to improve the Arab Animal Shelter building and ordinances be changed to require a well run shelter.
Rex

Arab, AL

#8 Apr 23, 2013
I understand what you are saying about the land deals and such but the city shouldnt be involved in an animal shelter. If a non-profit group wanted to take set up an animal shelter that would be great but I think the city needs to get out of the shelter.

Red is correct a lady that used to work at the local radio station tried pressuring the city into a lot of changes at the shelter and I think she even wanted to run it. What a conflict of interest! LOL Shelters are nothing but a money pit.Other than a nod from the people that adopt from shelters its not really something that benefits the cuty.

And before you say anything like"people moving here want shelters" I disagree. When I moved here I didnt care about if the city had a shelter pr not. All I wanted to know where the price of the house, the taxes and other associated costs. So if someone says we need this to get people to move here its a lie.
Linda Morris

Guntersville, AL

#9 Apr 24, 2013
The city IS involved in an animal shelter and has been for at least the twenty-odd years that I have lived here. It has always been a poorly run shelter and a blot on Arab (except for the time when CARAA was running it). It needs to be improved and run according to present-day standards.

CARAA had internal problems, both with power grabs and with those who wanted to keep the APD and their lack of standards in charge of the shelter.

I honestly don't care about people wanting to move here. I am concerned about the people who live here now. Many of us have pets and many more think that animals should be cared for properly.

The city supports many quality of life issues for residents, including city pool, playgrounds, ball parks, walking parks, senior center, recreation center, skateboarding, etc. Protection for pets and kind treatment would be appreciated by most city residents, and is a valid use of city resources.
Gail Wildman

Franklin, GA

#10 Apr 24, 2013
I cant believe anyone would not care about a shelter. That speaks volumes on what it wrong with this country. It is a fact that anyone that would harm or(not care)about animals would harm humans or (not care). A shelter is also a place for lost animals(for whatever reason) can be reunited with their owners.However the shelter is just asking for minimal amounts of money.Wanting the shelter to be able to contain as many animals as possible to prevent as much euthanization as possible. That is a whole other problem. One main issue( under the past mayor) is not allowing volunteers. Ppl in this city want to help reduce the cost. Volunteers can get many things donated,can socialize those left behind.This is needed to make sure they are put with the right families. Spay/neuter is very important. This is a way to prevent more unwanted animals. You really have to understand the workings of shelters to know what the needs are. But to say you dont care shows that there is alot more education needed.
Anonymous

Albertville, AL

#11 Apr 24, 2013
Really? Do you know absolutely that the shelter euthanizes animals? You might want to check your facts. I heard the mayor state that the shelter is a 'no kill' shelter.
Linda Morris

Guntersville, AL

#12 Apr 24, 2013
The kill rate at the Arab Animal Shelter has declined over the last few years. I saw an article in the Tribune where the deceased ACO said they killed over 250 animals one year, and over 280 another year, but didn't expect to have to kill as many because people had quit calling him and he didn't understand why.

The current mayor does wish for a no-kill shelter, and even said he wants a 'state of the art' shelter with lots of volunteers.

Currently the only volunteers allowed in are to do the work of the ACO for him (cleaning and feeding and posting online information), none of the extras like vaccinations, socialization, basic training, etc. are allowed. The extras are the things that make a difference in getting an animal adopted and don't add cost to the taxpayers (vaccine cost is passed on to adopter).

See the first post for objective standards for any animal shelter.
Gail Wildman

Franklin, GA

#13 Apr 24, 2013
susieq18 wrote:
Really? Do you know absolutely that the shelter euthanizes animals? You might want to check your facts. I heard the mayor state that the shelter is a 'no kill' shelter.
What do you think happens when the shelter gets full? The more that are adopted or returned to owners is the only thing that stops euthanization. I do know the facts. Millions of animals arepts yearly all over this country. You need to check the facts.
Anonymous

Albertville, AL

#14 Apr 24, 2013
Gail Wildman wrote:
<quoted text>What do you think happens when the shelter gets full? The more that are adopted or returned to owners is the only thing that stops euthanization. I do know the facts. Millions of animals arepts yearly all over this country. You need to check the facts.
So you are referring to shelters in general not the Arab shelter specifically. According to the other comment the shelter hasn't been full in several years.
Gail Wildman

Franklin, GA

#15 Apr 24, 2013
susieq18 wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are referring to shelters in general not the Arab shelter specifically. According to the other comment the shelter hasn't been full in several years.
I wish I could answer you completely. The AAS keeps big secrets so it would be hard to determine the numbers. However Im sure that they do when forced because of overflow.Some ppl around here claim that if ppl make too much of a "stink"that they would start putting them down. By "stink" they mean trying to have openness at the shelter. Something some dont want for some strange and unknown reason. I know they had a little dog that got loose so long that it became feral. They were supposedly going to put it down when they caught it.Why would they let that go on and how was it the little dogs fault?I will do my best to determine the numbers for you. As soon as I know I will let you know. Dont hold your breath.Lets not get off track as to the real issues. Openness at the shelter. Volunteers. Spay/newter,shots,worming etc...If we can have these things then hopefully euthanazia will not be on the list.
Gail Wildman

Franklin, GA

#16 Apr 24, 2013
Btw where and when did you hear the mayor say this?I have yet to hear any kind of response from the mayor.
Linda Morris

Guntersville, AL

#17 Apr 25, 2013
susieq18

If any other service in the city was so bad that people quit calling as much, would you consider that to be a good thing?

There are lots of strays running around Arab, so the problem still exists.

Another thing that makes no sense to me as a taxpayer is that if you do see a stray and call the ACO he will come out and try to catch it, repeatedly if necessary. City time, gas and equipment is expended for this. On the other hand, if you pick up the stray yourself and carry it to the shelter they will charge you to turn in the animal. It seems to me that turning in an animal should be free since you are saving the city some money and effort by doing that.

The current system would seem to encourage people with no money to simply set the animal loose on the streets. This is not good for Arab.
Gail Wildman

United States

#18 Apr 25, 2013
I have spoken with the Arab Tribune about the number of euthanized animals at the shelter. They used to post this in the paper but havent for several years now. Hmmm wonder why? I was told I could contact the police dept. Maybe Ill try that.
Rex

Arab, AL

#19 Apr 25, 2013
So why doesnt the city get out of the animal shelter business and let CARAA run it? The city has NO business supporting an animal shelter its not something that will improve Arab so close it!
Anonymous

Albertville, AL

#20 Apr 25, 2013
Rex wrote:
So why doesnt the city get out of the animal shelter business and let CARAA run it? The city has NO business supporting an animal shelter its not something that will improve Arab so close it!
CARAA also got money from the city to run the shelter and asked for even more before the city took the shelter back. The city has to have a shelter of some type it is state law.

Guntersville does charge if do not live in the city and you take an animal to the shelter. I don't know what they do if you live in the city. They charge you $25 which is what it cost for them to put the animal down.

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