Outagamie jail inmate dies

Outagamie jail inmate dies

There are 133 comments on the Appleton Post-Crescent story from Jan 13, 2008, titled Outagamie jail inmate dies. In it, Appleton Post-Crescent reports that:

“I couldn't believe how sick Curtis looked. He couldn't even lift his head up”

The family and friends of an Outagamie County jail inmate who died Sunday are criticizing jail administrators for not providing proper medical care to the man, Curtis Heino of Appleton. via Appleton Post-Crescent

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babygirl

De Pere, WI

#21 Apr 4, 2008
God says that we are to forgive and turn the other cheek...not condemn others. As far as excuses i have not given any and have no reason to. I did not say you were into racism i said ignorance such as yours is what creates it. I don't know how you got that i was in prison...but I have never been to jail or any type of incarceration...nice try..
Caffeinated wrote:
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Racism? Did I miss something here? I never mentioned that.
God said that WE as a society are responsible to uphold the standard...and I do. Excuses will get you no where lady. Glad you are in prison where you belong.:)
babygirl

De Pere, WI

#22 Apr 4, 2008
He may have had health problems but with the proper care he would have been fine.....And yes God did take him home to his heavenly place....oh oh better watch out he might be your guardian angel.
Caffeinated wrote:
He obviously had many health problems prior to being incarcerated. Looks like the good Lord brought him home...or sent him on the down escalator...
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#23 Apr 4, 2008
babygirl wrote:
He may have had health problems but with the proper care he would have been fine.....And yes God did take him home to his heavenly place....oh oh better watch out he might be your guardian angel.<quoted text>
Highly unlikely. I don't think God would downscale on the guidance. Besides...there is only one person that I rely on...God himself.
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#24 Apr 4, 2008
babygirl wrote:
He may have had health problems but with the proper care he would have been fine.....And yes God did take him home to his heavenly place....oh oh better watch out he might be your guardian angel.<quoted text>
Stop acting like he was a victim. HIS choices landed him in trouble, not the other way around. If he wanted to live, then he should have honored his own life. It's just that simple.
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#25 Apr 4, 2008
babygirl wrote:
God says that we are to forgive and turn the other cheek...not condemn others. As far as excuses i have not given any and have no reason to. I did not say you were into racism i said ignorance such as yours is what creates it. I don't know how you got that i was in prison...but I have never been to jail or any type of incarceration...nice try..<quoted text>
I was referring to your employment. We are to turn our cheek to matters that are of little importance, not to allow Satan to take over in full force. Forgive people who step on your foot, take your parking spot, or someone who hurts your feelings. Do you see the difference? Please tell me where in the Bible that it says to condone violence, crime and unwanted sexual acts? Try reading more of your Bible, and you will understand the full jist of what God said. Don't pick and choose to condone your poor choices and the choices of those close to you.
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#26 Apr 4, 2008
shengtan7 wrote:
Oh and I suppose your on the perfect escalator....You're ignorant Caffeinated.
No one knows until they get there, so we have to make the best choices that we know how. If we keep doing what we have always done, we will always get the same result. And considering that I don't have any problems with my life, I will assume that most of my decisions are pretty good.

Take it for what it is worth.
Lanie

Appleton, WI

#27 Apr 4, 2008
wow i can't belive the things some of u are saying her u don't know the man or his family u don't know all the facts yet here u sit talking alot of shit bout him, his kids, his woman and family wow i hope that one day when u sit before your judgment with the lord that u can answer the same as u are now with how u feel bout someone dying and their family. no child should ever have to grow up without a parent!
babygirl

De Pere, WI

#28 Apr 4, 2008
This exactly shows how much you know about God...when in heaven you are perfect therefore how exactly would it be downscaling as technically now he is more perfect than you seem to think you are. And you may rely only on God as do I, but his guardian angels are there to guide and protect.
Caffeinated wrote:
<quoted text>
Highly unlikely. I don't think God would downscale on the guidance. Besides...there is only one person that I rely on...God himself.
babygirl

De Pere, WI

#29 Apr 4, 2008
I don't work in a prison and never said i did, but someday hope to straighten out the laws and regulations they are to follow. You are to forgive everyone as it is not our job to judge them....only GODS....and I don't know where you get any of the crimes you are accusing of when you have no clue. Basically what you are saying is that all people who go to jail are bad people and deserve to go to hell....how ignorant of a statement...I am sure that is not how got feels about it, as a matter of fact the men who were hung next to jesus were criminals and they went to heaven....like i said you have no right to judge me or mine or anyone else. And before you preach religion and how good you are at it maybe you should remember that you are suppose to be kind unto they neighbors...what did we ever do to you.
Caffeinated wrote:
<quoted text>
I was referring to your employment. We are to turn our cheek to matters that are of little importance, not to allow Satan to take over in full force. Forgive people who step on your foot, take your parking spot, or someone who hurts your feelings. Do you see the difference? Please tell me where in the Bible that it says to condone violence, crime and unwanted sexual acts? Try reading more of your Bible, and you will understand the full jist of what God said. Don't pick and choose to condone your poor choices and the choices of those close to you.
Desirae

Marinette, WI

#30 Apr 4, 2008
Ya know, caffeinated has no room to talk for anything. The inmate in question was and still is loved by MANY! There is no such thing as bad people, just people that make bad descisions. He was agreat man, who loved his kids. As far as the lawsuit goes, it has to do with them ignoring his pleas for help when it was needed. I know from personal experience, they don't give a shit about anyone in there, they don't careabout getting them help unless they're carrying a communicable disease. Unless you know the person personally, you have no room or right to talk. Life happens the way it happens People make mistakes. Are you saying you've never screwed up? i bet you have, you just didn't get caught! You do know damn well, if you lost a loved one at the hands of someone else, when it could've been helped, you'd do the same thing. It's more about exposing the truth than anything. You should take the time to look into it before before giving advice from the peant gallery. You sound very immature, and heartless. I bet you're alone in life, no significant other, noone who really knows the real you, the real bitch in you. Life is about ups, downs and understanding, which you do not. If you were truly a person of God, you would not try to judge, especially when you are so negative. You should follow the yellow brick road to see The Wizard, like the Tin Man, and ask for a heart!
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#31 Apr 4, 2008
babygirl wrote:
This exactly shows how much you know about God...when in heaven you are perfect therefore how exactly would it be downscaling as technically now he is more perfect than you seem to think you are. And you may rely only on God as do I, but his guardian angels are there to guide and protect. <quoted text>
The Bible says not to worship angels.
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#32 Apr 4, 2008
Desirae wrote:
Ya know, caffeinated has no room to talk for anything. The inmate in question was and still is loved by MANY! There is no such thing as bad people, just people that make bad descisions. He was agreat man, who loved his kids. As far as the lawsuit goes, it has to do with them ignoring his pleas for help when it was needed. I know from personal experience, they don't give a shit about anyone in there, they don't careabout getting them help unless they're carrying a communicable disease. Unless you know the person personally, you have no room or right to talk. Life happens the way it happens People make mistakes. Are you saying you've never screwed up? i bet you have, you just didn't get caught! You do know damn well, if you lost a loved one at the hands of someone else, when it could've been helped, you'd do the same thing. It's more about exposing the truth than anything. You should take the time to look into it before before giving advice from the peant gallery. You sound very immature, and heartless. I bet you're alone in life, no significant other, noone who really knows the real you, the real bitch in you. Life is about ups, downs and understanding, which you do not. If you were truly a person of God, you would not try to judge, especially when you are so negative. You should follow the yellow brick road to see The Wizard, like the Tin Man, and ask for a heart!
Ha! Ha! I love the sheeple that follow the canned sayings that make no sense. He loved his child so much that he din't pay child support. He loved his wife so much that he got divorced. Two and two just don't add up here, does it? His pleas for help? What about society's plea for help? Innocent before criminal my dear...get in line. Trash always justifies criminal behavior...those of us abide by the law do not. A "mistake' doesn't make you wanted by the law...I can assure you. I have friends, family, a great home, a great business...no need to worry about me. You need to beg God for forgiveness for taking part in supporting a person who harms others by selling illegal drugs. How many of those people lost their lives?
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#33 Apr 4, 2008
babygirl wrote:
I don't work in a prison and never said i did, but someday hope to straighten out the laws and regulations they are to follow. You are to forgive everyone as it is not our job to judge them....only GODS....and I don't know where you get any of the crimes you are accusing of when you have no clue. Basically what you are saying is that all people who go to jail are bad people and deserve to go to hell....how ignorant of a statement...I am sure that is not how got feels about it, as a matter of fact the men who were hung next to jesus were criminals and they went to heaven....like i said you have no right to judge me or mine or anyone else. And before you preach religion and how good you are at it maybe you should remember that you are suppose to be kind unto they neighbors...what did we ever do to you.<quoted text>
Kind to people who deserve such treatment. And yes...God will judge.
babygirl

De Pere, WI

#34 Apr 4, 2008
who said anything about worshiping angels? Certainly not me...what i said is they are there to help watch over us.....Read before you comment.
Caffeinated wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible says not to worship angels.
babygirl

De Pere, WI

#35 Apr 4, 2008
No it says to be kind to thy neighbors there is no stipulation....therefore if forgive you for your ignorance as someday your right God WILL JUDGE. I don't know where you get off saying such things as me and my family have done nothing to deserve it. I have not said one mean thing about your family yet you continue to attack mine. Say i am a bad mother and my son is not healthy....well i can tell you one thing...maybe in your ignorant way of thinking, but he will never be rude to people as you have and he will never judge someone like you. He will learn that everyone makes mistakes, and that our God is a forgiving God. He will know that his father and mother love him unconditionally and will be with him threw thick and thin...no questions asked. Can your family and friends say such a thing? Oh thats right....you insist that they are perfect so they will never do anything never have any mistakes, never make a wrong decision. Like I said earlier I hope they don't because who will they have certainly not you. Just because people think differently than you does not mean they are trash...it means that they are individuals with hearts, people of their own being.....that don't have so much hatred that they with death on others.....Which God doesn't condone.
Caffeinated wrote:
<quoted text>
Kind to people who deserve such treatment. And yes...God will judge.
stefani5

Appleton, WI

#36 Apr 4, 2008
My opinion is, if he did the crime he should do the time. Which from my understanding he was. There have been times in my life where given unsupportive friends and family I could have gone down the wrong path. So I can understand how life can come down on a person so hard they resort to the only means they know of (ie: selling prescription drugs, etc). Doesn't mean it's right, so there should be punishment. But this doesn't mean a person's health/life should be put at risk because of being in jail. No, I don't think the time served should be a cake walk either....but the inmate should at least get medical care when needed. And from what I understand there were calls made to the jail by family members stating something was seriosly wrong health wise with this person.
Caffinated: When I read your threads, all I can get out of them are venemous words, meant to do nothing but be harmful. If you are a Christian, you should know that Jesus took time especially to be with the sick, poor, tax collectors, thieves, prostitutes. What would the world be like today if he shared your views? I suggest picking up the bible and reading for a while, try Matthew 7:1-6.
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#38 Apr 4, 2008
babygirl wrote:
who said anything about worshiping angels? Certainly not me...what i said is they are there to help watch over us.....Read before you comment.<quoted text>
And I am saying that I don't care.
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#39 Apr 4, 2008
stefani5 wrote:
My opinion is, if he did the crime he should do the time. Which from my understanding he was. There have been times in my life where given unsupportive friends and family I could have gone down the wrong path. So I can understand how life can come down on a person so hard they resort to the only means they know of (ie: selling prescription drugs, etc). Doesn't mean it's right, so there should be punishment. But this doesn't mean a person's health/life should be put at risk because of being in jail. No, I don't think the time served should be a cake walk either....but the inmate should at least get medical care when needed. And from what I understand there were calls made to the jail by family members stating something was seriosly wrong health wise with this person.
Caffinated: When I read your threads, all I can get out of them are venemous words, meant to do nothing but be harmful. If you are a Christian, you should know that Jesus took time especially to be with the sick, poor, tax collectors, thieves, prostitutes. What would the world be like today if he shared your views? I suggest picking up the bible and reading for a while, try Matthew 7:1-6.
You condone crime and criticize words. Interesting.I suggest you reread the Bible and focus on accountability of society. Don't condemn me for judging when you just did the same of me.(light bulb)
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#40 Apr 4, 2008
babygirl wrote:
No it says to be kind to thy neighbors there is no stipulation....therefore if forgive you for your ignorance as someday your right God WILL JUDGE. I don't know where you get off saying such things as me and my family have done nothing to deserve it. I have not said one mean thing about your family yet you continue to attack mine. Say i am a bad mother and my son is not healthy....well i can tell you one thing...maybe in your ignorant way of thinking, but he will never be rude to people as you have and he will never judge someone like you. He will learn that everyone makes mistakes, and that our God is a forgiving God. He will know that his father and mother love him unconditionally and will be with him threw thick and thin...no questions asked. Can your family and friends say such a thing? Oh thats right....you insist that they are perfect so they will never do anything never have any mistakes, never make a wrong decision. Like I said earlier I hope they don't because who will they have certainly not you. Just because people think differently than you does not mean they are trash...it means that they are individuals with hearts, people of their own being.....that don't have so much hatred that they with death on others.....Which God doesn't condone.<quoted text>
Ahhh...that is where you are wrong. God didn't say to have a free for all. I find it comical that you criticize someone being rude, but illegal drugs, not paying child support, getting divorced, jumping bail and killing people are okay. You are sick in the head just like your boyfriend.

According to your value system of "forgive and forget", there shouldn't be a lawsuit either. But evidently, YOU are a giant hypocrite when it can put a dollar in your pocket. YOU are probably the one who slipped him something you money grubber.

I never said that I was perfect, those are your words. If you take offense to anything that I say just chalk it up as a "mistake" and move on. And yes, you and your family are trash.
College Student

Henniker, NH

#41 Apr 4, 2008
WOW!!!! My mom always told me to watch out for all them damn FIBS from Illinois, but holy crap, I never thought once to listen to her until now. Caffeniated, you are one crazy person!!!! How dare you call others and their family trash. You say you are doing well for yourself, blah, blah, blah....but, for all we know you could be sitting in your lazyboy at home in the trailer park enjoying your Pabst Blue Ribbon getting a good kick out of hurting other's feelings!

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