Outagamie jail inmate dies

Jan 13, 2008 Full story: Appleton Post-Crescent 133

“I couldn't believe how sick Curtis looked. He couldn't even lift his head up”

The family and friends of an Outagamie County jail inmate who died Sunday are criticizing jail administrators for not providing proper medical care to the man, Curtis Heino of Appleton. via Appleton Post-Crescent

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Mary L

Big Lake, MN

#1 Mar 28, 2008
Obviously we now have one less person selling drugs in our community, one less dead beat dad. I feel the jail has done its job. I do feel bad for his family, sure, but he already obviously did damage to them, to his child. Maybe it is better this way.
Kelly

Neenah, WI

#2 Mar 31, 2008
That is horrible. Not all people in jail are there because of the reasons you speak of. From experience, I know the workers at the jail are not equipped or trained to deal with many of the people that are there and therefore, they are treated horribly. A death out of there is not a surprise, but it is HORRIBLE.
Mary L wrote:
Obviously we now have one less person selling drugs in our community, one less dead beat dad. I feel the jail has done its job. I do feel bad for his family, sure, but he already obviously did damage to them, to his child. Maybe it is better this way.
Diane

Warrenville, IL

#3 Apr 1, 2008
Mary L wrote:
Obviously we now have one less person selling drugs in our community, one less dead beat dad. I feel the jail has done its job. I do feel bad for his family, sure, but he already obviously did damage to them, to his child. Maybe it is better this way.
How would you feel if your child died in jail. Do you ever think of the reason this person may be selling drugs? I do it is call living. I am a working mother of 1 and I receive support for him and can barely make it out here. How do you know that this person is a dead beat dad? Do you have kids by this man? If not who are you to judge! Dead is never the way and God my judge you or one of family member the same way. How would you feel then? Think about it. If you have kids or one day may it could be your own.
Caffeinated

Lincolnshire, IL

#4 Apr 1, 2008
Wouldn't it be nice if the family cared that much BEFORE he landed in jail? I especially liked the part where the exwife claims that she was going to remarry him. LOL! The guy didn't even take care of his own kid and was a poor example as a parent. Why would she want to remarry him? Looks like the family only cares about the lawsuit...cha-ching!
Caffeinated

Lincolnshire, IL

#5 Apr 1, 2008
Diane wrote:
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How would you feel if your child died in jail. Do you ever think of the reason this person may be selling drugs? I do it is call living. I am a working mother of 1 and I receive support for him and can barely make it out here. How do you know that this person is a dead beat dad? Do you have kids by this man? If not who are you to judge! Dead is never the way and God my judge you or one of family member the same way. How would you feel then? Think about it. If you have kids or one day may it could be your own.
The time to worry is BEFORE they are in jail. Do you know how many jobs are available in the US? Give me a break! No one needs to sell illegal drugs. Did you bother to read the article? God expects us to maintain a decent society. How do you know how many people this man killed by selling illegal drugs?? Don't condone criminal actions...it hurts everyone. As a matter of fact, if this man abided by the law, he wouldn't have been sent to jail, and therefore the jail would not be "responsible" for him. Besides, the article said that he wasn't taking anything for his heart condition anyway. For a guy that sells illegal drugs, you would think that he could have gotten the ones that he needed himself. No sympathy for lawbreakers.
babygirl

De Pere, WI

#6 Apr 3, 2008
Just a thought for you not everyone who goes to jail is guilty...and i personally know the family and know they did care before he went to jail and during and now.......
Caffeinated wrote:
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The time to worry is BEFORE they are in jail. Do you know how many jobs are available in the US? Give me a break! No one needs to sell illegal drugs. Did you bother to read the article? God expects us to maintain a decent society. How do you know how many people this man killed by selling illegal drugs?? Don't condone criminal actions...it hurts everyone. As a matter of fact, if this man abided by the law, he wouldn't have been sent to jail, and therefore the jail would not be "responsible" for him. Besides, the article said that he wasn't taking anything for his heart condition anyway. For a guy that sells illegal drugs, you would think that he could have gotten the ones that he needed himself. No sympathy for lawbreakers.
babygirl

De Pere, WI

#7 Apr 3, 2008
Hi this is the fiance of the man you are writing about....I have cared about him all along and our divorce had nothing to do with his parenting he was a wonderful father to his children and a very good example...maybe one who does not know the whole situation at hand should not speak. For your information not everyone who is in jail is guilty of what they are accused, and they don't deserve to be treated badly because they are there....if this was one of us treating our animals or children that way we would be prosecuted to the fullest extent....and as far as your comment on the money(lawsuit)....I and his entire family would give everything we own or have now or in the future to have him back with us. Maybe before you judge others you should look at ones own life.....I am sure you are not perfect.
Caffeinated wrote:
Wouldn't it be nice if the family cared that much BEFORE he landed in jail? I especially liked the part where the exwife claims that she was going to remarry him. LOL! The guy didn't even take care of his own kid and was a poor example as a parent. Why would she want to remarry him? Looks like the family only cares about the lawsuit...cha-ching!
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#8 Apr 4, 2008
babygirl wrote:
Hi this is the fiance of the man you are writing about....I have cared about him all along and our divorce had nothing to do with his parenting he was a wonderful father to his children and a very good example...maybe one who does not know the whole situation at hand should not speak. For your information not everyone who is in jail is guilty of what they are accused, and they don't deserve to be treated badly because they are there....if this was one of us treating our animals or children that way we would be prosecuted to the fullest extent....and as far as your comment on the money(lawsuit)....I and his entire family would give everything we own or have now or in the future to have him back with us. Maybe before you judge others you should look at ones own life.....I am sure you are not perfect.<quoted text>
"He was in jail for selling prescription pain medication, and was later charged with nonsupport and bail jumping."

Sound familiar? Let's just say that he "wasn't" selling prescription drugs. What part of bail jumping and nonsupport do you approve of? Sounds like he did you a favor by checking out early. Just saying...because you don't sound too bright.
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#9 Apr 4, 2008
Set your standard higher next time...your kid deserves it.
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#10 Apr 4, 2008
babygirl wrote:
Just a thought for you not everyone who goes to jail is guilty...and i personally know the family and know they did care before he went to jail and during and now.......<quoted text>
Then why wasn't he taking care of his health, selling drugs, jumping bail, and being a poor father. Maybe you all didn't try hard enough. Typical criminal family blaming the public, the government, and everyone else. Take responsibility for your role in the demise of your loved one. And...as far as I can tell, you are a terrible mother. Don't expose your child to scum like that.
babygirl

De Pere, WI

#11 Apr 4, 2008
You say that i don't sound to bright yet you are the one being quite ignorant....just because people go to jail, does not mean they are bad people...i means that sometimes people make mistakes. Obviously you will learn that the hard way for being so cold hearted cause Karmas a bitch.
Caffeinated wrote:
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"He was in jail for selling prescription pain medication, and was later charged with nonsupport and bail jumping."
Sound familiar? Let's just say that he "wasn't" selling prescription drugs. What part of bail jumping and nonsupport do you approve of? Sounds like he did you a favor by checking out early. Just saying...because you don't sound too bright.
babygirl

De Pere, WI

#12 Apr 4, 2008
What my kid deserves is to have his father back....is that something you can do for him????? Oh thats right your not GOD....so then what right do you have to judge someone you do not even have the slightest clue about? I am unsure if you have children, but i hope if you do that nothing happens to either one of their parents because it is something no child should have to go threw.
Caffeinated wrote:
Set your standard higher next time...your kid deserves it.
babygirl

De Pere, WI

#13 Apr 4, 2008
He was taking care of his health, and was not a poor father...he loved his children unconditionally and was the most caring man you would ever meet.....As for not trying hard enough...I called and emailed for three weeks to get him help. Just thought i should give you a clue....I have no criminal record and am a criminal justice major and hope to change the way things are done in todays jails. It seems as though you have no clue as to how many people have died in wisconsins corrections facilities maybe you should research it once. And as far as being a good mother.....you are way off base my child is healthy, and well taken care of....and his father is not scum. I don't know who you think you are but you really need a reality check before you judge others. I feel sad for those exposed to your ignorant point of view. They will forever be hindered by absent thoughts due to ignorant thinking.
Caffeinated wrote:
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Then why wasn't he taking care of his health, selling drugs, jumping bail, and being a poor father. Maybe you all didn't try hard enough. Typical criminal family blaming the public, the government, and everyone else. Take responsibility for your role in the demise of your loved one. And...as far as I can tell, you are a terrible mother. Don't expose your child to scum like that.
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#14 Apr 4, 2008
babygirl wrote:
You say that i don't sound to bright yet you are the one being quite ignorant....just because people go to jail, does not mean they are bad people...i means that sometimes people make mistakes. Obviously you will learn that the hard way for being so cold hearted cause Karmas a bitch. <quoted text>
No. YOU are wrong...they are bad people...especially when children are involved. YOU are part of the problem. Bad people know that they will be forgiven, and therefore continue doing bad things. besides, it is MY tax dollar, so I can say whatevr I want.
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#15 Apr 4, 2008
babygirl wrote:
What my kid deserves is to have his father back....is that something you can do for him????? Oh thats right your not GOD....so then what right do you have to judge someone you do not even have the slightest clue about? I am unsure if you have children, but i hope if you do that nothing happens to either one of their parents because it is something no child should have to go threw.<quoted text>
No influence is better than a bad one. You know what they say...the apple never falls far from the tree. I hope you are saving for bail...er, um...I mean college tuition.
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#16 Apr 4, 2008
babygirl wrote:
He was taking care of his health, and was not a poor father...he loved his children unconditionally and was the most caring man you would ever meet.....As for not trying hard enough...I called and emailed for three weeks to get him help. Just thought i should give you a clue....I have no criminal record and am a criminal justice major and hope to change the way things are done in todays jails. It seems as though you have no clue as to how many people have died in wisconsins corrections facilities maybe you should research it once. And as far as being a good mother.....you are way off base my child is healthy, and well taken care of....and his father is not scum. I don't know who you think you are but you really need a reality check before you judge others. I feel sad for those exposed to your ignorant point of view. They will forever be hindered by absent thoughts due to ignorant thinking. <quoted text>
Hmmm...let's see...my life is perfectly normal...my kids aren't in trouble...I have been happily married for a loooong time (I'm not a "baby momma" either)...I contribute to society in a positive way...I have NEVER been late on any payments....I am generous with my time and money...I believe in God, and I walk the walk.

Sure, it makes sense to listen to you and your values...NOT! I don't care what your "major" is, it does not make you any smarter than the rest of us. As a matter of fact, I believe it actually makes you look worse because you should know better. Don't try to cram your politically correct "unconditional love" down my throat, because I am not buying it. Love should NOT be unconditional because SOMEBODY needs to set the standard. Your trailer park mentality is the problem with our society. Don't challenge anyone's values...the far left might get into a frenzy. BIG DEAL! I will continue to stand up for what is right...not a bunch of rhetoric that a bunch of yahoos are cramming down my throat.

Did the story not say that this man had a HEART condition, but was NOT taking medication for it??? THAT should have been priority #1! I hope many more people die in prison...that saves us all about 40 grand a year... per vermin.

Your child is NOT healthy. How could he be? He had two dimwits for parents who CHOSE not to lead by example. "Most caring man"? Lady...you are sick in the head. God help you.
babygirl

De Pere, WI

#17 Apr 4, 2008
You obviously don't believe and walk the walk because God says not to judge others. As far as my major making me more ignorant I believe it actually makes me more smart as I believe that inmates are there to serve their time, not be treated as some kind of dirt. As far as medication for his heart condition....his doctor fealt it was not needed...and he was following what his doctor ordered. As far as unconditional love...maybe you don't believe in it because you never had it.....and my child is very healthy and smart. He has been brought up to be a caring individual. You act as though you are a role model for society, and yet it is ignorance that creates racism, and hatred. I truly feel bad for you when someone you know ends up incarcerated....maybe even one of your children....then what will you say...."Sorry I can't love you anymore your a bad person...Hope you die in there" Maybe you should think once that it could have been one of your loved ones.
Caffeinated wrote:
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Hmmm...let's see...my life is perfectly normal...my kids aren't in trouble...I have been happily married for a loooong time (I'm not a "baby momma" either)...I contribute to society in a positive way...I have NEVER been late on any payments....I am generous with my time and money...I believe in God, and I walk the walk.
Sure, it makes sense to listen to you and your values...NOT! I don't care what your "major" is, it does not make you any smarter than the rest of us. As a matter of fact, I believe it actually makes you look worse because you should know better. Don't try to cram your politically correct "unconditional love" down my throat, because I am not buying it. Love should NOT be unconditional because SOMEBODY needs to set the standard. Your trailer park mentality is the problem with our society. Don't challenge anyone's values...the far left might get into a frenzy. BIG DEAL! I will continue to stand up for what is right...not a bunch of rhetoric that a bunch of yahoos are cramming down my throat.
Did the story not say that this man had a HEART condition, but was NOT taking medication for it??? THAT should have been priority #1! I hope many more people die in prison...that saves us all about 40 grand a year... per vermin.
Your child is NOT healthy. How could he be? He had two dimwits for parents who CHOSE not to lead by example. "Most caring man"? Lady...you are sick in the head. God help you.
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#18 Apr 4, 2008
babygirl wrote:
You obviously don't believe and walk the walk because God says not to judge others. As far as my major making me more ignorant I believe it actually makes me more smart as I believe that inmates are there to serve their time, not be treated as some kind of dirt. As far as medication for his heart condition....his doctor fealt it was not needed...and he was following what his doctor ordered. As far as unconditional love...maybe you don't believe in it because you never had it.....and my child is very healthy and smart. He has been brought up to be a caring individual. You act as though you are a role model for society, and yet it is ignorance that creates racism, and hatred. I truly feel bad for you when someone you know ends up incarcerated....maybe even one of your children....then what will you say...."Sorry I can't love you anymore your a bad person...Hope you die in there" Maybe you should think once that it could have been one of your loved ones.<quoted text>
Racism? Did I miss something here? I never mentioned that.

God said that WE as a society are responsible to uphold the standard...and I do. Excuses will get you no where lady. Glad you are in prison where you belong.:)
Caffeinated

Aurora, IL

#19 Apr 4, 2008
He obviously had many health problems prior to being incarcerated. Looks like the good Lord brought him home...or sent him on the down escalator...
shengtan7

United States

#20 Apr 4, 2008
Oh and I suppose your on the perfect escalator....You're ignorant Caffeinated.

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