High Desert sex-offender operation continues to pay off

A July sex offender compliance operation in the High Desert has led to a number of recent arrests.

[MSLGW]

These laws set every sex offender up for failure
www.cfcoklahoma.com

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where is the story?????????? i got to read it befor a comment!!!!!!!!!!

[MSLGW]

THE CRUX OF THE PROBLEM ARE THE LAW MAKERS WHO PASS LAWS WITHOUT EXPERT ADVISE PDF Print E-mail
Written by Linda
Friday, 22 August 2008 17:21

It is my educated opinion and that of the experts that sex offender laws as they are written today,“Do More Harm than Good.” These laws actually endanger children and society.

Megans Law and the Residence restrictions do not protect the children as these regulations intended. They actually make matters worse by creating itinerant predators.

Let me explain,
Incest and friends of the family make up approximately 98% of all sex offenses. There has been estimated that 60 million individuals in this country that has experienced child sexual abuse. 50%, 30 million will go on to abuse a child. This is the crux of the problem, and we are NOT addressing it.

Instead, law makers are creating laws that Do More harm than good. For example,

The public registries. 98% of those come from the family and friends of the family. It is a fact that once caught that 95% of them NEVER EVER repeat another sex crime. And that without therapy.

The remaining 5% are HIDING in the registries. Those who DID NOT know their victims, the violent rapists and the repeat offender.
Go to cfcoklahoma.org for remainder of article

[MSLGW]

Click on this link
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[smith22]

95% of sex offenders never repeat another sex crime! This goes against every fact known about sex offenders. Predators are friends of the family for one reason, to get close to the children. They are pedafiles, not friends! Sex offenders cause life long damage to their victims. As far as I am concerned they should not live with the rest of society.

[Second Thoughts]

MSLGW wrote:

These laws set every sex offender up for failure
www.cfcoklahoma.com

Who cares? No one made them do it in the first place.

[curious]

What happens to the sex offenders who never get caught?
Or when their victim is to afraid or ashamed to come forward?
Those are the ones we need to worry about too.

[MSLGW]

smith22 wrote:

95% of sex offenders never repeat another sex crime! This goes against every fact known about sex offenders. Predators are friends of the family for one reason, to get close to the children. They are pedafiles, not friends! Sex offenders cause life long damage to their victims. As far as I am concerned they should not live with the rest of society.

I suspect that you got your facts from the entertainment news media. They are in it for ratings not to protect children.
Here are true facts dealing with recidivism.
http://cfcoklahoma.org/index.php...
Pedophile is a "clinical" term and 1% or less of all registered sex offenders are pedophiles. By the way pedophilia can be treated.
Of course the entertainment news media loves to paint all registered sex offenders with the same brush as do the politians who are low in the polls. It has created a national hysteria just like the marijuana laws way back when. They scared the whole country saying things like blacks who smoke it will want to rape your white daughter.
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[MSLGW]

Second Thoughts wrote:

<quoted text>Who cares? No one made them do it in the first place.

Is Ricky REALLY a sex offender?
http://rickyslife.com/

There have been children as young as 5 years old put on the registry. Good grief! What the hell does a five year old or a 10 year old know about sex??
www.cfcoklahoma.org

[Second Thoughts]

MSLGW wrote:

<quoted text>
Is Ricky REALLY a sex offender?
http://rickyslife.com/
There have been children as young as 5 years old put on the registry. Good grief! What the hell does a five year old or a 10 year old know about sex??
www.cfcoklahoma.org

1) I would rather err on the side of caution.

2) I bet you'd be singing a different tune if it was your child who was the sex toy of another...man, woman, or kid.

[MSLGW]

Second Thoughts wrote:

<quoted text>1) I would rather err on the side of caution.
2) I bet you'd be singing a different tune if it was your child who was the sex toy of another...man, woman, or kid.

I, myself am a survivor of child sex abuse and my youngest son who is now grown up and doing fine was also a victim. I don't play the game of being a professional victim as many do in this country.
I study the FACTS, I don't follow the emotional myths, lies and hysteria that the entertainment news media puts out for ratings and politicians who are low in the polls, for votes.
Only one person was responsible for my situation and only one for my son. I do not punish others for what someone else did. That is insane. That is hysteria
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[tracie]

in my opinion, as someone that has been abused, i think that the laws arn't harsh enough, when it comes to those who are actually sex offenders. not 5 year olds who have no idea what the hell there doing(except mimicking what they may has seen mom or dad doing) however what i think tulsa may not be realizing is that even though at times you may thing your"over" what happend to you in your past, your never "over" it!!!that person has in some way perminently & single handedly destroyed the person you may have grown up to be! like in my case, yeah im "over" what happend to me. however... my kids will never be left alone with anyone! they go everywhere i go. they are so sheltered that i know this will affect them. but im my mind, i would rather be safe than sorry! they will not go through what i had to go through if i can help it!!! so not only did that person in my past effect my future as a parent, a wife, and just an all around normal thinking human being, but in the long run its also effected my kids. yet they will never know why! so you can say all you want about not allowing people to make you feel this way. but not all of us can just get"over" it! some of us just don't work that way, just like not all of us are capable or destroying an inocent childs life!!!

[MSLGW]

Who commits most sex crimes? Well, 95% of all new sex crimes are committed by those NOT on the registry. Family members and those known to the family commit 98% of all sex crimes. So much for stranger danger.
2nd question. Who is MORE LIKELY to committ a sex crime upon release from prison? Sex Offenders or NON-sex offenders?

For the answer, go here. www.cfcoklahoma and see the article, "Revisiting Department of Justice Recidivism Statistics and More Shocking Truths."

[MSLGW]

Who commits most sex crimes? Well, 95% of all new sex crimes are committed by those NOT on the registry. Family members and those known to the family commit 98% of all sex crimes. So much for stranger danger.
2nd question. Who is MORE LIKELY to committ a sex crime upon release from prison? Sex Offenders or NON-sex offenders?

For the answer, go here. www.cfcoklahoma.org and see the article, "Revisiting Department of Justice Recidivism Statistics and More Shocking Truths."

[MSLGW]

Federal Judge Stops New State Sex Offender Law

A federal judge Wednesday put a stop to a new state sex offender law. The law would have reclassified sex offenders putting them in categories based on the crimes they committed.

Opponents say the new system is unfairly targeting non-dangerous offenders.

Read more:
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[Rickys Mom]

curious wrote:

What happens to the sex offenders who never get caught?
Or when their victim is to afraid or ashamed to come forward?
Those are the ones we need to worry about too.

What about the teen boy that has sex with an older woman. It was and is a badge of manhood since I was a child.

God created two (2) main organs in the human being, One was their brain, the other their sexual drive. Only problem, He only created enough blood to allow one to function at a time.

[MSLGW]

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/press/rsorp9...

Highlights include the following:

* Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%).
* Within 3 years, 2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide.
* The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 had accumulated 4.1 million arrest charges before their most recent imprisonment and another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release

US Department of Justice, 2003
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/press/rsorp9...
• Sample size – 9,700 sex offenders

• Length of time – 3 years
• Re-offense trigger – reconviction (Doesn't mean a new sex crime)
• Results – 5.3% sexual offence. 3.3% child molestation.
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[MSLGW]

California must spend %59,287,816 in order to save,$721,935. The nation is on the verge of bankruptcy.
They passes "Three strikes law and Jessica's Law only to find they "Do more Harm than Good." Now they want californian's to pass the AWA. Check this out.
Our country is in "Financial Crisis" Stop writing ineffective laws.

We need a serious "open debate" in the House of Representatives and the Senate on this subject. In the long run it will cost California tax payers millions in new taxes for a law that protects no one but endangers everyone. Also, the predators are hiding in the registries.

Please read the article "Federal Domestic Spending Bill Cuts Crime Funding Program by 67 Percent," at the web site below.
www.cfcoklahoma.org

Califonnia's Cost of Implementing SORNA ……..$ 59,287816
Califonnia's Byrne Money 2006…………………………5,160,709
Califonnia's 10 percent of Byrne money……………………..516,071
Califonnia's 67% Byrne cut leaves 33% or..........170,303

These figures do NOT take into account these ever increasing costs.

• New personnel
• Software, including installation and maintenance
• Additional jail and prison space
• Court and administrative costs
• Law enforcement costs
• Legislative costs related to adopting, and crafting state law

Virginia determined that the first year of compliance with the registry aspect of SORNA would cost more than $12
million.3
• The first year of implementing SORNA would cost the Commonwealth of Virginia $12,497,000.
• The yearly annual cost of SORNA would be $8,887,000. Adjusted with a 3.5 percent yearly inflation rate,4 Virginia
would be paying more than $10 million by 2014.
• If Virginia chose to comply with SORNA, the state would spend $12,097,000 more than it would if it chose not to
implement SORNA and forfeit 10 percent of its yearly Byrne grant, a loss totaling approximately $400,000

Office of Justice Programs, "JAG State Allocations," April 23, 2008. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/BJA/grant/07JAGstate...

Randy Lopp, treatment subcommittee chairman of the Oklahoma Sex Offender Management Team says it best, "Most people who know anything about this are frustrated. It is just not helpful -- the laws as they are now,"

''I think if the general public understood the research, they would be willing to back the legislators to change the laws to make more sense and to protect children, because the laws as they are written are not protecting children," he said. "They are doing more harm than good.''

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Once truth is acknowledged, you cannot deny it and remain true to yourself

[MSLGW]

States will spend millions for passing the AWA which is "doing more harm than good."

Legislators need to consult the EXPERTS rather than pass knee jerk legislation that actually endangers children and the whole of society. I encourage everyone to write their law makers demanding they stop endangering children with knee jerk legislation and BRING IN THE EXPERTS.

"Maine is one of the few states that is going about this correctly. They are "LISTENING TO EXPERTS, rather than passing emotional knee jerk legislation which protects no one but endangers everyone. The vast majority of states have passed laws that "Do more harm than good."

Protecting children and society must be done "intelligently."

Here is a short "audio clip" referencing the issue in Maine.

"Effectiveness of Sex Offender Registries Explored By Legislators-LISTEN"

Listen here:
www.cfcoklahoma.org ."

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Once truth is acknowledged, you cannot deny it and remain true to yourself.

www.cfcoklahoma.org

[MSLGW]

smith22 wrote:

95% of sex offenders never repeat another sex crime! This goes against every fact known about sex offenders. Predators are friends of the family for one reason, to get close to the children. They are pedafiles, not friends! Sex offenders cause life long damage to their victims. As far as I am concerned they should not live with the rest of society.

Actually it goes against every MYTH and LIE we have been told by the entertainment news media and politician low in the pools. They do NOT use facts. Facts get in the way of RATINGS and VOTES.
Here are FACTS
http://www.geocities.com/eadvocate/issues/inc...
Family members are fathers, mothers, all relatives. Friends of the family, best buddies, doctors teachers and anyone you know and give access to your family.
98% of all new sex crimes comes from this group and 95% of all new sex crimes are committed by individuals, NOT on the registry.
www.cfcoklahoma.org