Undercover video shows 'veal crates'

Mercy for Animals said calves are kept chained in 2-foot-wide "veal crates" for 16 to 18 weeks before slaughter. Full Story
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Bob Evans

Newark, OH

#1 Aug 31, 2010
The calf looks happy to me.
Bovine lover

Columbus, OH

#2 Aug 31, 2010
Sickening! People are the most evil species.
GreedOf TheNutCaseRight

Columbus, OH

#3 Aug 31, 2010
Bob Evans wrote:
The calf looks happy to me.
Looks a lot like the Kasich "Plan For Ohio"
Vote for "Hell NO"
You Too Can Be "Happy"
justice for all columbus

Reynoldsburg, OH

#4 Aug 31, 2010
How sad even for cows to be treated like this. For someone to even say they look happy, how sick are you? I'll pass this along to eveyone I know who does care. I'll just say no for now on to the beef!
mark

Columbus, OH

#6 Aug 31, 2010
I really wish someone would press the issue further and take the issue to ballot. I feel the humane society caved to much.
Ohio farmers are really starting to p&*s me off between their barbaric treatment of animals and all their pollution ruining our waterways, especially Lake Erie. Someone needs to stand up to them.
Bovine lover

Columbus, OH

#7 Aug 31, 2010
mark wrote:
I really wish someone would press the issue further and take the issue to ballot. I feel the humane society caved to much.
Ohio farmers are really starting to p&*s me off between their barbaric treatment of animals and all their pollution ruining our waterways, especially Lake Erie. Someone needs to stand up to them.
Amen brother.

I believe the HSUS caved, because a little is better than none? Just a guess.

But, this is absolutely ridiculous. Every day it's some other animal being tortured or beaten.
Enough is enough.
pennie

Columbus, OH

#8 Aug 31, 2010
Bob Evans wrote:
The calf looks happy to me.
Lets hook you up like that and see how you like it. Poor things can't even lay down you fool.
Elleryqueen

Parkersburg, WV

#9 Aug 31, 2010
I witnessed this situation several years ago when I was a real estate agent. Went to list a property whose owner raised veal. Saw said situation, have refused to by veal since. Incidently, I have never seen a cow, bull, steer, calf, et al with a happy look. just look like bovines with no facial expression.
Elleryqueen

Parkersburg, WV

#10 Aug 31, 2010
I witnessed this situation several years ago when I was a real estate agent. Went to list a property whose owner raised veal. Saw said situation, have refused to buy veal since. Incidently, I have never seen a cow, bull, steer, calf, et al with a happy look. Just look like bovines with no facial expression.

Had to make a couple of spelling corrections in comment.
Tom L

Lake Geneva, WI

#11 Aug 31, 2010
pennie wrote:
<quoted text>Lets hook you up like that and see how you like it. Poor things can't even lay down you fool.
They can lay down you ignorant fool. Animals can't stand forever without resting.
Tom L

Lake Geneva, WI

#12 Aug 31, 2010
justice for all columbus wrote:
How sad even for cows to be treated like this. For someone to even say they look happy, how sick are you? I'll pass this along to eveyone I know who does care. I'll just say no for now on to the beef!
Beef is raised differently from veal. You should really know your facts before you comment.
Colin

Columbus, OH

#13 Aug 31, 2010
Tom L wrote:
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Beef is raised differently from veal. You should really know your facts before you comment.
Don't miss the forest for the trees. So they misspoke, I think everyone could infer the ultimate point/ conclusion
Radar U

Delaware, OH

#14 Aug 31, 2010
Here's the lowdown on veal and how it's raised.
Yes,they are kept in crates to keep them from moving around and walking.They CAN lay down,turn around,lick their hindquarters,etc...They DO get their bedding changed and are kept as clean as other cattle.The FDA and USDA would shut down any farm that let their veal calves sit in manure and develop sores and disease.Because these cattle are so young and that they are fed the way they are,their immune systems are not well developed,so they HAVE to keep them clean and in good conditions.Blowflies can cause numerous problems once the hatching cycle is completed.
Now,they do not get the pampering that Kobe beef gets right up until slaughter,nor do they get to walk and roam about,and they do not eat grain like other cattle,only milk,but they are generally kept calm and in quiet because stress does affect the veal's tenderness.How do I know this? I work in the meat industry and I had to learn about how the animals I deal with are raised and kept.
Veal has been raised like this for decades,and over these decades,numerous horror stories have been made up and been embellished,added to and enhanced to make it sound like a Spanish inquisition.Plus,when someone actually DOES abuse animals and the videos get released,everyone thinks this is what happens in ALL animal farms.
What it boils down to is people get upset and think, "how horrible" when they hear about a calf being crated to prevent walking and movement for the purpose of eating it.Well,it is what it is and the world is an unjust place.Like it or not,nothing will change how veal is raised & nothing will make those who think it's cruel change their minds.BUT...bringing knowledge and actual facts to the table instead of rumor and legends will make it alot easier to handle and understand.
Concerned

Columbus, OH

#15 Sep 1, 2010
Radar U wrote:
Here's the lowdown on veal and how it's raised.
Yes,they are kept in crates to keep them from moving around and walking.They CAN lay down,turn around,lick their hindquarters,etc...They DO get their bedding changed and are kept as clean as other cattle.The FDA and USDA would shut down any farm that let their veal calves sit in manure and develop sores and disease.Because these cattle are so young and that they are fed the way they are,their immune systems are not well developed,so they HAVE to keep them clean and in good conditions.Blowflies can cause numerous problems once the hatching cycle is completed.
Now,they do not get the pampering that Kobe beef gets right up until slaughter,nor do they get to walk and roam about,and they do not eat grain like other cattle,only milk,but they are generally kept calm and in quiet because stress does affect the veal's tenderness.How do I know this? I work in the meat industry and I had to learn about how the animals I deal with are raised and kept.
Veal has been raised like this for decades,and over these decades,numerous horror stories have been made up and been embellished,added to and enhanced to make it sound like a Spanish inquisition.Plus,when someone actually DOES abuse animals and the videos get released,everyone thinks this is what happens in ALL animal farms.
What it boils down to is people get upset and think, "how horrible" when they hear about a calf being crated to prevent walking and movement for the purpose of eating it.Well,it is what it is and the world is an unjust place.Like it or not,nothing will change how veal is raised & nothing will make those who think it's cruel change their minds.BUT...bringing knowledge and actual facts to the table instead of rumor and legends will make it alot easier to handle and understand.
Typical reply from someone in the AG business...
Radar U

Delaware, OH

#16 Sep 1, 2010
Concerned wrote:
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Typical reply from someone in the AG business...
Visit a veal farm.See it with your own two eyes instead of some video that,like those horror stories you hear can be edited and embellished to make it look worse.Again,this isn't something new.Veal has been raised like this for decades so it's nothing earth shaking like meeting an alien from space or something.
I do not support the abuse of animals such as happened at Conklin dairy where they were beaten and stabbed with pitchforks, but raising veal in crates has been this way well before you were born and is likely not to change much as long as the animals are kept clean,their crates are kept clean and pests and disease are kept under control.Same as with laying chickens.They're kept in small cube cages that are staked but you never hear anyone yelling foul ball because of the cages do you?It's because they're chickens and not calves.Everyone's getting riled up over this is because of the cuteness factor.Calves are cute and fuzzy.Chickens are not.
See it in real first person life before generalizing.Alot of myths and embellishments cloud the veal industry because of the rumors and stories being concocted.
Tom L

Lake Geneva, WI

#17 Sep 1, 2010
Radar U wrote:
<quoted text>
Visit a veal farm.See it with your own two eyes instead of some video that,like those horror stories you hear can be edited and embellished to make it look worse.Again,this isn't something new.Veal has been raised like this for decades so it's nothing earth shaking like meeting an alien from space or something.
I do not support the abuse of animals such as happened at Conklin dairy where they were beaten and stabbed with pitchforks, but raising veal in crates has been this way well before you were born and is likely not to change much as long as the animals are kept clean,their crates are kept clean and pests and disease are kept under control.Same as with laying chickens.They're kept in small cube cages that are staked but you never hear anyone yelling foul ball because of the cages do you?It's because they're chickens and not calves.Everyone's getting riled up over this is because of the cuteness factor.Calves are cute and fuzzy.Chickens are not.
See it in real first person life before generalizing.Alot of myths and embellishments cloud the veal industry because of the rumors and stories being concocted.
Just letting you know the animal rights wackos hate the way chickens are raised also. That probably will be next weeks video. They are totally against raising animals for food. There were to many people protesting in favor of gay marriage so these misfits are putting animals before people.
Tom L

Lake Geneva, WI

#18 Sep 1, 2010
Colin wrote:
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Don't miss the forest for the trees. So they misspoke, I think everyone could infer the ultimate point/ conclusion
Actually it is more like comparing apples to oranges moron. Yes they are both raised for food, however to totally different scenarios. Nothing will please these a holes.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#19 Sep 2, 2010
Radar U wrote:
<quoted text>
Visit a veal farm.See it with your own two eyes instead of some video that,like those horror stories you hear can be edited and embellished to make it look worse.Again,this isn't something new.Veal has been raised like this for decades so it's nothing earth shaking like meeting an alien from space or something.
I do not support the abuse of animals such as happened at Conklin dairy where they were beaten and stabbed with pitchforks, but raising veal in crates has been this way well before you were born and is likely not to change much as long as the animals are kept clean,their crates are kept clean and pests and disease are kept under control.Same as with laying chickens.They're kept in small cube cages that are staked but you never hear anyone yelling foul ball because of the cages do you?It's because they're chickens and not calves.Everyone's getting riled up over this is because of the cuteness factor.Calves are cute and fuzzy.Chickens are not.
See it in real first person life before generalizing.Alot of myths and embellishments cloud the veal industry because of the rumors and stories being concocted.
You been living under a rock? Of course, us crazy animal people have been yelling foul about chickens for a long time.
And, many of us have see it in person, and not at all generalizing or myths.
Farm animals are the most abused animals. So, if we chose to try to protect them, that's our right.
There is no defense for how they're treated.

500,000 signatures to get the changes on the ballot, tells me you are outnumbered.
Mike

Columbus, OH

#20 Sep 2, 2010
mark wrote:
I really wish someone would press the issue further and take the issue to ballot. I feel the humane society caved to much.
Ohio farmers are really starting to p&*s me off between their barbaric treatment of animals and all their pollution ruining our waterways, especially Lake Erie. Someone needs to stand up to them.
Yeah maybe you should boycott products produced by farmers, oh wait then you would starve. You don't know your head from your ass, idiot.
Mike

Columbus, OH

#21 Sep 2, 2010
Angellica wrote:
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You been living under a rock? Of course, us crazy animal people have been yelling foul about chickens for a long time.
And, many of us have see it in person, and not at all generalizing or myths.
Farm animals are the most abused animals. So, if we chose to try to protect them, that's our right.
There is no defense for how they're treated.
500,000 signatures to get the changes on the ballot, tells me you are outnumbered.
At least you finally admit that you are crazy!!!!! You have seen it in person, what did you go to a petting zoo? You can take your 500,000 signatures and shove off, moron.

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