Deputies Investigate Fatal Apollo Beach Accident

Feb 29, 2008 Full story: Tampa Bay Online 160

One person has died and two more are in the hospital after a car hit a utility pole on Apollo Beach Boulevard about 7 p.m. this evening west of Fairway Boulevard. via Tampa Bay Online

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annoyedwithknowi tallkids

Rochester, NY

#101 Apr 3, 2008
Why is it that everytime a person (Adult) posts something that a teenager or kid does NOT like, the Adult becomes IGNORANT or clueles according to them. Because according to them thye have ALL the answwers and know everything
FYI Mikey, drunk driving where there is lives lost, is never an accident It is a TRAGEDY caused by some CLUELSS IGNORANT person who CHOSE to Drink, CHOSE to get into their vehicle, and CHOSE to drive Don't you agree they CHOSE to get behind a wheel of a car?? NO one forced them behind that wheel.
An accident is something where you have no control over it. Once again Drunk Driving is not an accident. The end result of drunk driving is an accident.
Myke

Spring Hill, FL

#102 Apr 3, 2008
Read all comments like i did most of them are Ignorant and Stupid. Everyone throwing FALSE information regarding both David and Sam None of you know the facts you just know the obvious. When one of you actually read the Police Report or better yet Hear the Facts from an Officer your assumptions about this case Are Well CLUELESS, IGNORANT, and USELESS.My age has nothing to do with Having more intelligence than you, I would be annoyed too.
annoyedwithknowitallkids wrote:
Why is it that everytime a person (Adult) posts something that a teenager or kid does NOT like, the Adult becomes IGNORANT or clueles according to them. Because according to them thye have ALL the answwers and know everything
FYI Mikey, drunk driving where there is lives lost, is never an accident It is a TRAGEDY caused by some CLUELSS IGNORANT person who CHOSE to Drink, CHOSE to get into their vehicle, and CHOSE to drive Don't you agree they CHOSE to get behind a wheel of a car?? NO one forced them behind that wheel.
An accident is something where you have no control over it. Once again Drunk Driving is not an accident. The end result of drunk driving is an accident.
Malcolm

Inverness, FL

#103 Apr 3, 2008
Myke wrote:
When one of you actually read the Police Report or better yet Hear the Facts from an Officer your assumptions about this case Are Well CLUELESS, IGNORANT, and USELESS. <quoted text>
What? Is that really what you meant to say?

This excitable guy was complaining about grammar correction but wrote:
In post #97 "you went to school and was taught", then on to tell everyone how intelligent he is and criticizes adults about criticism.

I was really feeling you dawg before you went on the attack, but now you are the “pot calling the kettle black”.(It's something adults say, you may have to look it up).
If your postings reflect your intelligence, you’re lacking. More likely you’re just lacking maturity. You’re easily intimidated.
You’ve lowered yourself into the “everyone’s opinion is wrong except mine” group, and lumped everyone who posted into that other group. Many thoughtful, heartfelt messages were posted among the nasty hateful messages. The grief-stricken are allowed a temporary free pass to vent. Post #92 explains this.

Back on topic: Did you Myke, actually read the police report? Maybe you could quell some of the hearsay by posting more specifically what you know.
Is that allowed? Most of us just know of this case as being “under investigation”.
Please enlighten us.
Apollo Beach Resident

Reynosa, Mexico

#104 Apr 3, 2008
Myke,
The "facts" in this case, ie. the accident report, is not available to the general public until about 28Apr, so until then we all have just the presser to go by. If anyone has seen the actual report, then they must be very close and/or involved, since that is the only way to get around the 60 day law, besides the press. All I know is what I read and hear. A kid was driving too fast up the Blvd, and hit a stopped vehicle that was not yet in a travel lane, killing someone. If those are not the facts, please enlighten me and the rest of us.
annoyedwithknowi tallkids

Rochester, NY

#105 Apr 3, 2008
Myke,
So in your OPINION anyone stating the obvious is clueless and ignorant and the end results of drunk driving isnt an accident that takes a life or lives? DO I have your "facts" right?
And apparently you are OMNISCIENT and HAVE never stated the OBVIOUS yourself about anything.
Sadly the facts are Myke:
1) Consumption of alcohol by anyone under the age of 21 is Illegal
2) 2 young lives are ruined by this Clueless Ignorant act
3) 1 life was taken by this Clueless Ignorant act
Is this INTELLIGENT enough for you?

Since: Apr 08

Ruskin

#106 Apr 3, 2008
well gee we know now just on the local news the kid has been charged with drunk driving and vehicular homicide.....but what do I know I'm an uneducated ignorant adult
One who really does know

Brandon, FL

#107 Apr 3, 2008
This is a fact. He was finally arrested. The "amnesia" apparently did not phase the judge and he determined that this kid should be arrested and charged. Finally! So maybe the teens who have been reading this and recently responding should take a step back and realize that the facts are the facts. If it makes you feel better to call everyone else ignorant that still won't change what your buddy did. Have you spoken with the police or read the report? It will be very enlightening when it becomes public for everyone and I am afraid you are going to be educated on the facts and realize that your incorrect. RIP Sam. I love you and miss you every single day.
Myke

Spring Hill, FL

#108 Apr 3, 2008
Heres the REAL FACTS!

An Apollo Beach teen was charged today with DUI manslaughter in connection with a Feb. 28 crash that killed a Riverview man, Hillsborough County sheriff's spokeswoman Debbie Carter said.

David Holdsworth was driving a 1999 Chevrolet Camaro east on Apollo Beach Boulevard in excess of 75 mph in a posted 35 mph zone, Carter said. He lost control of the vehicle, slid sideways about 253 feet and hit a 1990 Chevrolet Caprice that was stopped at Apollo Beach Boulevard and Surfside Drive.

The driver of the Caprice, Samuel Garcia, 32, died at the scene.

Holdsworth was 17 years old at the time and has since turned 18. Holdsworth and his passenger, Logan Lemmer, 19, were seriously injured and were rushed to Tampa General Hospital, Carter said.

Sheriff's Detective John Duran smelled alcohol on Holdsworth's breath, Carter said.

A blood test showed Holdsworth had a blood alcohol level of .0136 percent one hour after the crash, Carter said. Florida law presumes a driver is impaired with a level of 0.08 percent.

Holdsworth was arrested and booked into the Juvenile Assessment Center because he was 17 at the time of the crash.
Apollo Beach Resident

Altamira, Mexico

#109 Apr 3, 2008
So the facts are a 17yo kid was doing in excess of 40mph over the speed limit. That no longer makes it an accident. He also was arrested for DUI. I think the .0136 is a typo, as it should probably be 0.136. I don't know for sure, but I would put money on it. So, according to the facts, a drunk 17 year old was driving recklessly, and killed someone. Nope, not an accident. The kids actions were his own, and could of been prevented, if the kid had only not done any one of the things he did. If he would not have been drinking, it may not of happened. If he didn't drive, it may not of happened. If he wasn't going more than twice the speed limit, it may not of happened. The only thing that the kid has going for him right now, is the fact that they did not charge him as an adult. That might save about 15 years for him, but not for Sam.
annoyedwithknowi tallkids

Rochester, NY

#110 Apr 3, 2008
Myke,
It seems that many (and I'm using your words from your post #102) "Clueless", "Ignorant" and "Useless" people didnt have to get their "FACTS" from a police officer or a police report. Seems they got them from the media who DID talk to a police officer. Other people who have posted have filled you in on some "FACTS" you choose to IGNORE about this tragedy.
I have a suggestion for you. Instead of being so angry with people who have a better grasp of "FACTS" than you and Insulting them why dont you simply not post anything at all? All you have suceeded in doing is making yourself look Very IGNORANT and FOOLISH. Just like all INMATURE people who think they know it all, have all the answers and would rather argue with others when in REALITY they have no clue at all.
You are just another kid that thinks he knows it all and has all the answers.Who hasn’t been taught to respect anyone who thinks differently then you. You would rather be angry and insult people
One more thing Myke,
Careful your INMATURITY is showing again
Myke

Spring Hill, FL

#111 Apr 3, 2008
First Off you your show your stupidity every time you talk, i was INSULTED by a poster saying ("It appears our school system does as good a job of teaching our kids grammar and punctuation as it does with drinking and driving.")And you are one Clueless person yourself I am not a KID, and i Did state that Clueless and ignorant was about people who had nothing good at all to say about Sam and David ,i was not angry towards anyone. you are the poster trying to act as if you KNOW everything. I have no need to post on here anymore. Its self centered Wanna be intelligent person trying to tell me not to insult someone who has Insulted me for no reason, and then tell me Im wrong for stating that some peoples comments are CLUELESS IGNORANT and Stupid? GET REAL. GOD bless Sam and his friends and family,And David his friends family.
annoyedwithknowitallkids wrote:
Myke,
It seems that many (and I'm using your words from your post #102) "Clueless", "Ignorant" and "Useless" people didnt have to get their "FACTS" from a police officer or a police report. Seems they got them from the media who DID talk to a police officer. Other people who have posted have filled you in on some "FACTS" you choose to IGNORE about this tragedy.
I have a suggestion for you. Instead of being so angry with people who have a better grasp of "FACTS" than you and Insulting them why dont you simply not post anything at all? All you have suceeded in doing is making yourself look Very IGNORANT and FOOLISH. Just like all INMATURE people who think they know it all, have all the answers and would rather argue with others when in REALITY they have no clue at all.
You are just another kid that thinks he knows it all and has all the answers.Who hasn’t been taught to respect anyone who thinks differently then you. You would rather be angry and insult people
One more thing Myke,
Careful your INMATURITY is showing again
Kim

Maple Heights, OH

#112 Apr 4, 2008
Just wanted to post the article for everyone. Seems this reporter was very accurate in her accounting and reporting. This one also gives everyone a better understanding of just how much this driver was impaired at the time of the accident.

Man charged with DUI manslaughter
TAMPA -- He was 17 when the crash happened.

David Holdsworth, of 930 Allegro Lane in Apollo Beach, survived after his Chevrolet Camaro spun out of control and crashed with another car on Feb. 28.

Thirty-two-year-old Samuel Garcia of Riverview died at the scene.

Garcia was stopped in his own Chevrolet at Apollo Beach Boulevard when the Camaro slammed into his car after hurtling down the road at a speed faster than 75 miles per hour, sheriff's spokeswoman Debbie Carter said.

The posted speed limit on Apollo Beach is 35.

Today, Holdsworth was charged with DUI manslaughter, DUI with serious bodily injury and two counts of property damage. Though he is now 18, his age at the time of the crash led deputies to book him into the Juvenile Assessment Center, a detention center for minors.

Holdsworth was in critical condition following the crash. Detective John Duran obtained a blood sample from Holdsworth three hours after the accident, which showed a blood alcohol level of .08 and .082, which state law considers the level at which a person is considered impaired. Another blood sample taken at the time of his admittance to Tampa General showed a blood-alcohol level of .136, according to Carter.

Holdsworth's passenger Logan Lemmer, 18, also survived, with non-life threatening injuries.

- Rebecca Catalanello, Times staff writer
Myke

Spring Hill, FL

#113 Apr 4, 2008
.082? this does give better details, THAnks
Kim wrote:
Just wanted to post the article for everyone. Seems this reporter was very accurate in her accounting and reporting. This one also gives everyone a better understanding of just how much this driver was impaired at the time of the accident.
Man charged with DUI manslaughter
TAMPA -- He was 17 when the crash happened.
David Holdsworth, of 930 Allegro Lane in Apollo Beach, survived after his Chevrolet Camaro spun out of control and crashed with another car on Feb. 28.
Thirty-two-year-old Samuel Garcia of Riverview died at the scene.
Garcia was stopped in his own Chevrolet at Apollo Beach Boulevard when the Camaro slammed into his car after hurtling down the road at a speed faster than 75 miles per hour, sheriff's spokeswoman Debbie Carter said.
The posted speed limit on Apollo Beach is 35.
Today, Holdsworth was charged with DUI manslaughter, DUI with serious bodily injury and two counts of property damage. Though he is now 18, his age at the time of the crash led deputies to book him into the Juvenile Assessment Center, a detention center for minors.
Holdsworth was in critical condition following the crash. Detective John Duran obtained a blood sample from Holdsworth three hours after the accident, which showed a blood alcohol level of .08 and .082, which state law considers the level at which a person is considered impaired. Another blood sample taken at the time of his admittance to Tampa General showed a blood-alcohol level of .136, according to Carter.
Holdsworth's passenger Logan Lemmer, 18, also survived, with non-life threatening injuries.
- Rebecca Catalanello, Times staff writer
Kim

Maple Heights, OH

#114 Apr 4, 2008
Myke wrote:
.082? this does give better details, THAnks
<quoted text>
WOW! Maybe you should read the ENTIRE article....the level at the time of arrival at the hospital was .136. The .082 level was THREE hours later. He was DOUBLE the limit at the time he arrived to the hospital and still DUI three hours later. Of course he should not have NOT have had any alcohol in his system being 17 years and all. Does anyone else think I submitted something that wasn't offering more details? I wasn't trying to dispute your article, simply providing a another article that provided additional information. Maybe you should have read the entire article before becoming so defensive? Just a thought.....
myke

Spring Hill, FL

#115 Apr 4, 2008
no no no. i like your article everyone i know read that and didnt know that was three hours later they thought.136 was sorry
Kim wrote:
<quoted text>
WOW! Maybe you should read the ENTIRE article....the level at the time of arrival at the hospital was .136. The .082 level was THREE hours later. He was DOUBLE the limit at the time he arrived to the hospital and still DUI three hours later. Of course he should not have NOT have had any alcohol in his system being 17 years and all. Does anyone else think I submitted something that wasn't offering more details? I wasn't trying to dispute your article, simply providing a another article that provided additional information. Maybe you should have read the entire article before becoming so defensive? Just a thought.....
Kim

Maple Heights, OH

#116 Apr 4, 2008
myke wrote:
no no no. i like your article everyone i know read that and didnt know that was three hours later they thought.136 was sorry
<quoted text>
No problem. Thank you too for sending your good wishes to Sam's family. I know it must be hard for you because David is your friend but Sam was mine and I miss him every day.
Jennifer

United States

#117 Apr 4, 2008
This little punk was finally arrested yesterday and he showed no remorse what-so-ever. Sammy was a good person, full of life and love and now he is gone. And his family, friends, and parents have to carry on. This stupid kid, David Holdsworth is his name, hit Sammy going 95 mph after the car sped up when he lost control going 78 in a 35 mph residential zone. He was over TWICE the legal limit. I'm sorry but that is NOT an accident. It's homicide. I hope this kid wakes up one day and realizes what he's done and has to suffer and live with that for the rest of his life. He'll have about 10-15 years to think about it anyway in his prison cell. RIP Sammy, we love you.
terriw

Lutz, FL

#118 Apr 4, 2008
Jennifer the kid will be lucky if he spends a year in prison....unfortunately I knew of someone who got one year in prison and his license taken away for five years and probation for five years and he killed a little girl drunk driving. And guess what? he's still a menace to soceity and also just to let some people know if they didn't know......drunk driving is only a misdemeanor......we need to lobby or legislators and demand it become a felony.....that's why so many have not 1 DUI but many....laws need to be harsher
ABP

Brandon, FL

#119 Apr 4, 2008
Terri-
Not sure where you are looking this up but this what I found for Florida statute:

Manslaughter and Vehicular Homicide-s. 316.193 (3), F.S.

DUI/Manslaughter: Second Degree Felony (not more than $10,000 fine and/or 15 years imprisonment).

It doesn't seem that DUI Homicide and DUI Bodily Injury is a misdemeanor but actually a second degree felony.
terriw

Lutz, FL

#120 Apr 5, 2008
abp sorry for the mixup here's my quote..."drunk driving is only a misdemeanor" I was not referring to the driver

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