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Apex Teacher Suspended Over Comments on Facebook

There are 142 comments on the Fox 8 WGHP story from Feb 16, 2010, titled Apex Teacher Suspended Over Comments on Facebook. In it, Fox 8 WGHP reports that:

An Apex middle-school teacher has been suspended after reacting angrily on her Facebook page that she was subjected to a "hate crime" by Christian students.

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Since: Jan 10

Lincolnshire, IL

#122 Feb 18, 2010
Bubba wrote:
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careful now...your using logic and common sense...That will get ya in trouble...lol
Yep. I've been accused of "profiling" people. I call it "a clue".
Oh my

Young Harris, GA

#123 Feb 18, 2010
Blue Dog Dem wrote:
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Yep. I've been accused of "profiling" people. I call it "a clue".
While others would call it jumping to a conclusion based on incomplete information.
Allen

Asheboro, NC

#124 Feb 18, 2010
Frank wrote:
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It is probable and quite legal that the school imposed restrictions on certain behaviors and activities as a condition of employment. Many public oriented jobs entail such clauses. Additionally, under Federal anti-harassment laws, statements made off the job can possibly considered harassment under certain conditions.
If the school did impose such restrictions, I am sure that it would have been mentioned in the news article. And her comments in no way can be considered harassment. I think she was in the right with what she did.

Since: Jan 10

Lincolnshire, IL

#125 Feb 18, 2010
Oh my wrote:
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While others would call it jumping to a conclusion based on incomplete information.
I'm OK with that, too. But my experience has been that if the news report leaves out this little piece of information for PC purposes (here I go again jumping to conclusions) it's a pretty good bet that I'm right. Sorta like "Suicide bomber" is PC code for muslim extremist and "Group of youths" is PC for "gang".

Since: Nov 09

Thomasville, NC

#126 Feb 18, 2010
Allen wrote:
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If the school did impose such restrictions, I am sure that it would have been mentioned in the news article. And her comments in no way can be considered harassment. I think she was in the right with what she did.
If she were planning to get litigious she wouldn't mantion she would hold every card she has to play the victim.
You're not going to get evry legal point in 90 seconds from a newscast they neeed to manage their time and get to commercials so they can pay the bills.
Allen

Asheboro, NC

#127 Feb 18, 2010
Blue Dog Dem wrote:
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I'm OK with that, too. But my experience has been that if the news report leaves out this little piece of information for PC purposes (here I go again jumping to conclusions) it's a pretty good bet that I'm right. Sorta like "Suicide bomber" is PC code for muslim extremist and "Group of youths" is PC for "gang".
Using your logic, I guess that the plane that hit the IRS building today was a hijacker from Saudi Arabia like the ones on 9/11 were. And yes, most of them were Saudi nationals just like their leader Osama Bin Laden. But wait, the pilot today was a disgruntled guy who had a beef against the IRS. Not a muslim extremist. Well, your logic again has a big gaping hole in it.
Frank

Jewell, GA

#128 Feb 18, 2010
Allen wrote:
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If the school did impose such restrictions, I am sure that it would have been mentioned in the news article. And her comments in no way can be considered harassment. I think she was in the right with what she did.
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This Fox 8 article left out many facts. The stae on NC has a policy in place.
The teacher also complained about students wearing Jesus tee-shirts and singing "Jesus Loves Me".
More can be found at:
www.news-record.com/content/2010/02/15/articl...
Allen

Asheboro, NC

#129 Feb 18, 2010
Frank wrote:
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This Fox 8 article left out many facts. The stae on NC has a policy in place.
The teacher also complained about students wearing Jesus tee-shirts and singing "Jesus Loves Me".
More can be found at:
www.news-record.com/content/2010/02/15/articl...
I would complain about that also. The schools have dress policies in place for that kind of thing. And the kids have no right to sing any kind of religious songs like that. It sounds more and more like the kids were deeply harassing this teacher and trying to provoke a response. I still feel that she did nothing wrong and that the kids should receive suspensions or expulsions. If these kids truly were "christians" then they wouldn't act this way. They are just hoodlums without the spray paint.
tired of liberals

Yadkinville, NC

#130 Feb 18, 2010
Wake County Schools has no social networking policy, but it does have an ethics policy. This teacher, Mrs. Hussain, also has rights, but she expressed them as childishly as her students expressed theirs. Facebook is no place to criticize one's students.. not on a public page. There are several things that bother me about this situation. Who told the students their teacher's religion? If they assumed it, they were wrong. If she told them, she was wrong. The parents of these students, whether their suggestions were implied or explicit, most likely encouraged their children to sing religious songs, give their teacher a Bible, and whine about her lessons. Had the student who left a Bible on her desk anonymously meant it as a gift sincerely given out of friendship or appreciation, he would have signed his name. That he did not, shows that his intent was malicious. The teacher should not have sent students who questioned God's part in evolution (their words) to the office. She should have gotten them back on task and then continued teaching her lesson. She should not have made a big deal out of a Christmas card; she should have put it away and disposed of it without letting the students know they'd angered her. We teachers are public figures, and we are, therefore, held to high standards. We do not need to like all of our students or their parents, but we do not need to let them know that we don't. We certainly do not need to berate them on Facebook. Mrs. Hussain acted childishly. She should have sought her principal's advice if she were having problems with her students, instead of airing her anger on a public site. Surely she is aware that 7 teachers in Charlotte-Mecklenburg were disciplined and one fired a few years ago for doing the same thing she has done. I've taught in many different places. One thing I know is that you don't move somewhere and then criticize the people who live there or the things they hold dear. This is, indeed, the South, and we southerners are proud people; don't criticize our home. Don't criticize our God and our Christianity. Don't call us ignorant southern rednecks, don't shame our children, don't make fun of NASCAR, and, most of all... do not criticize Dale Earnhardt (Jr. or Sr.) or threaten to draw a swastika on his forehead. Mrs. Hussain not only acted childishly; she acted more than a little stupidly.
Kristan

Burlington, NC

#131 Feb 18, 2010
Blue Dog Dem wrote:
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I'm OK with that, too. But my experience has been that if the news report leaves out this little piece of information for PC purposes (here I go again jumping to conclusions) it's a pretty good bet that I'm right. Sorta like "Suicide bomber" is PC code for muslim extremist and "Group of youths" is PC for "gang".
Is it OK to call gang members thugs, or is that a no no?
tired of liberals

Yadkinville, NC

#132 Feb 18, 2010
Kristan wrote:
<quoted text>Is it OK to call gang members thugs, or is that a no no?
It's more than okay to call gang members thugs or anything else that describes their gang mentality. At least, I think so.
Frank

Jewell, GA

#133 Feb 18, 2010
Allen wrote:
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I would complain about that also. The schools have dress policies in place for that kind of thing. And the kids have no right to sing any kind of religious songs like that. It sounds more and more like the kids were deeply harassing this teacher and trying to provoke a response. I still feel that she did nothing wrong and that the kids should receive suspensions or expulsions. If these kids truly were "christians" then they wouldn't act this way. They are just hoodlums without the spray paint.
Since when is it illegal for a child to have a shirt with a religious messages on it? That violates free speech and free exercise clause of the Constitution.

And if you would read more about it, you will find that the teacher belittled the people she was supposed to be teaching -not only on Facebook, but in class as well. That is immature and unprofessional. And her not being able to rise above the situation and redirect the students back to the class material means she is not qualified to teach. In fact she is not qualified to be in any leadership position around children. It shows instability. If she had this much trouble with middle school students, what would she have done with a class of highschool students?

Since: Jan 10

Lincolnshire, IL

#134 Feb 19, 2010
Allen wrote:
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Using your logic, I guess that the plane that hit the IRS building today was a hijacker from Saudi Arabia like the ones on 9/11 were. And yes, most of them were Saudi nationals just like their leader Osama Bin Laden. But wait, the pilot today was a disgruntled guy who had a beef against the IRS. Not a muslim extremist. Well, your logic again has a big gaping hole in it.
My logic has never been perfect, as I noted. However, it's based on reality rather than sensitivity and is quite often proven correct. The guy yesterday was a licensed pilot in a small prop plane. He didn't hijack a jet liner. And anyone who attacks the IRS is a patriot - not a terrorist...(that's supposed to be funny).
There's that PC sensitivity raising its ugly head again. "Saudi nationals like Osama". Why can't you say they were muslims, muslim extremists, or islamic terrorists? You make it sound like terrorist only come from Saudi Arabia. Was it there Saudi national influence that made them terrorist or the muslim influence? Richard Reid proves your logic to be flawed and mine to be closer to accurate. Why are we afraid to speak the truth?

Since: Jan 10

Lincolnshire, IL

#135 Feb 19, 2010
Kristan wrote:
<quoted text>Is it OK to call gang members thugs, or is that a no no?
That's a big no no. They aren't thugs. They are misguided youths in need of economic parity due to inherent inner-city disadvantages. It's not as easy to say as "thug", but at least we done offend anybody.
Jolieblone

Kinder, LA

#136 Feb 19, 2010
she needs to go back to her home country where islam is taught.. i'd be afraid she'd come blow up the school in the name of alla , I would NOT want an islam muslum teacher teaching my kids or grandkids..their religion teaches hate and violence.. go back to your home country Melinda Hussian!!!
Anita Bath

Chicago, IL

#137 Feb 19, 2010
carthoswalker wrote:
Shouldn't she have more self control as a teacher?
If she feels she is being bullied by kids how can she effectively teach?
Obviously the stress of the position is too much for her, how come she hasn't resigned?
Nobody puts a gun to her head to make her go to work, she should've expected harrassment when she entered her vocation.
Why is she suspended with pay?
Why are parents not more outraged by her behaviour?
Shouyld she be the one to take the higher road since she is an adult?
The question is...Why are the parents not outraged about their own children's behavoir???
Frank

Jewell, GA

#138 Feb 19, 2010
Jolieblone wrote:
she needs to go back to her home country where islam is taught.. i'd be afraid she'd come blow up the school in the name of alla , I would NOT want an islam muslum teacher teaching my kids or grandkids..their religion teaches hate and violence.. go back to your home country Melinda Hussian!!!
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Everyone is assuming she is a Muslim because of her last name and the fact she hates Christ. That may be true, but she could very well just be a elitist progressive humanist, and a bigoted snob.

Since: Jan 10

Lincolnshire, IL

#139 Feb 19, 2010
Frank wrote:
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Everyone is assuming she is a Muslim because of her last name and the fact she hates Christ. That may be true, but she could very well just be a elitist progressive humanist, and a bigoted snob.
Isn't "elitist progressive humanist, and a bigoted snob" the definition of muslim. Just funnin' wicha!:)
Allen

Asheboro, NC

#140 Feb 19, 2010
Blue Dog Dem wrote:
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My logic has never been perfect, as I noted. However, it's based on reality rather than sensitivity and is quite often proven correct. The guy yesterday was a licensed pilot in a small prop plane. He didn't hijack a jet liner. And anyone who attacks the IRS is a patriot - not a terrorist...(that's supposed to be funny).
There's that PC sensitivity raising its ugly head again. "Saudi nationals like Osama". Why can't you say they were muslims, muslim extremists, or islamic terrorists? You make it sound like terrorist only come from Saudi Arabia. Was it there Saudi national influence that made them terrorist or the muslim influence? Richard Reid proves your logic to be flawed and mine to be closer to accurate. Why are we afraid to speak the truth?
I don't think Timothy McVeigh was Muslim. But it turns out that he was a terrorist. Same goes for Eric Rudolph and Ted Kazynski. All of these individuals weren't Muslim. Rudolph proclaimed to be a devout Christian. There are others, but these are the 3 most prominent of recent times. So was it their religion that influenced them? As far as your logic being closer, I think you just lost a few more points. Religious beliefs make people do stupid things everyday. It doesn't matter what the religion is. Not all religious people are out to do harm, but their are zealots in every belief. But when it comes down to kids harassing teachers, that should not be tolerated. Most religious people that I know teach their kids that if someone doesn't believe the same as they do, then it is ok to discriminate against them. That is why the founders chose to separate church and state with the first amendment so that bias based on religious beliefs would not interfere with government. If those kids are that bent on trying to press their beliefs on others, then they should be going to private schools. Then they can preach to the choir.
tired of liberals

Yadkinville, NC

#141 Feb 19, 2010
Allen wrote:
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If the school did impose such restrictions, I am sure that it would have been mentioned in the news article. And her comments in no way can be considered harassment. I think she was in the right with what she did.
Wake County has no social networking policy, but it does have an ethics policy that prohibits employees from doing things that would hurt their reputations or the reputation of the schools. Check out the articles in newsobserver.com that report on this situation.

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