Fowler School Closing
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bout time

Ithaca, NY

#1 Feb 26, 2013
reasons

Fayetteville, NY

#2 Feb 26, 2013
Raise there taxes like they are in gouverneur everyone runs to live in Fowler for cheap taxes
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New York, NY

#3 Feb 26, 2013
Actually the residents in Fowler pay the same school taxes that the residents in Gouverneur pay. The difference is in the land taxes.
No help here

Marietta, NY

#4 Feb 26, 2013
So where is that wonderful nys governor and our presidents help now? No child left behind act ????
unreal......hopefully it will be overturned
Concerned

Winter Springs, FL

#5 Feb 26, 2013
It is not even the land taxes! I pay the same land taxes in Fowler as I do on my Land in Gouverneur! Maybe 10 years ago you could say that!!!
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New York, NY

#6 Feb 26, 2013
Concerned wrote:
It is not even the land taxes! I pay the same land taxes in Fowler as I do on my Land in Gouverneur! Maybe 10 years ago you could say that!!!
You are right, with the mines closed down, the taxes in Fowler have gone up.
reasons

Fayetteville, NY

#7 Feb 26, 2013
Apparently not enough
wowza

Gouverneur, NY

#8 Feb 26, 2013
reasons wrote:
Apparently not enough
Apparently not enough? What do you mean by that statement? Taxes have gone up and Fowler residents pay the same for their children to go to school as the rest of the schools that make up our district. There is no savings for living in Fowler as far as contributing a fair share toward the cost of having a school. Canton just asked the teachers to pay for a small percentage of their health insurance and it saves 300k. That, alone, would keep the school open. Too many superindentents and too many principals. They always say the population has gone down and we could always do with less, but administration has quadrupled in numbers and wages. Also if the BOE always votes unanimous then we don't need a board only a BOE leader who obviously controls the interest. It is a shame and could have been avoided with some actualy work done by the BOE. This was in their plans a long time ago and they couldn't wait to do it.
Taxpayer

Ardsley, NY

#9 Feb 26, 2013
Based on the facts that I heard, there is no economic reason to keep Fowler open. I understand this is an emotional topic because of the schools history however these decisions have to be based on funds and facts not feelings. I'm sure this isn't the last cut.
Taxpayer

Ardsley, NY

#10 Feb 26, 2013
Also anyone over the age of 40 give or take a couple years probably remembers Balmat and Brasie Corners schools. Both had the same situation and the kids adjusted just fine as I recall.
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New York, NY

#11 Feb 26, 2013
Well I do remember the Balmat school sitting empty for many years and the taxpayers still having to pay land taxes etc on that property. It was falling apart by the time they finally sold it for far less than the money that had been poured into it over the years.
Taxpayer

Ardsley, NY

#12 Feb 26, 2013
That may be correct however the taxes are only a small portion of the operating expenses for the school. Heat, lights and maintenance are where the savings are going to.com e from. I agree it's unfortunate that it has to close but these are hard economic times. People aren't thinking with their heads but instead with their hearts. An extra 5 mile bus trip to a school that already has classrooms available where the students will get the same quality of education meanwhile saving much needed money just makes sense. I went to elementary, Jr high and High school here and I don't recall the students that came from Fowler being any more or any less successful in Jr high or high school than students that went to East side or West side. When it comes down to it, that's what really matters.
Moron Wrangler

Watertown, NY

#13 Feb 26, 2013
This is silly. Everyone needs to grow up. The fact is that is makes economic sense to close it. The population and the economy has shrunk exponentially. We have empty classrrooms and something has to happen. Fowler School should've closed years ago. I attended Fowler School and my child attends the village schools now. It's not over crowded and it's not the end of the world. If Fowler residents want to vote and keep it open, they should foot the bill for it's operation alone. Not the village residents just as village residents have to pay for village luxuries.
Wrong

New York, NY

#14 Feb 26, 2013
I don't think anyone said Fowler was any better or any worse than the other schools. Some things to consider, the mines have been sold, if they reopen, there is going to be another influx of people which means more students. Another concern parents have is the length of the bus ride. New York State law says a student is not supposed to be on the bus for more than 1 hour and the Fowler students are right at that limit going to the Fowler school. In order to keep from having these young children on the bus for way over an hour, there will need to be extra bus runs and they will need to be shorter runs. Then there is the issue of putting kindergarten students on a bus with high school kids, I'm sorry I would flip if it was my young child. My kids are older now so as far as having a vested interest in the school staying open, I don't. I just see major problems once the school closes and in the long run I think it is going to be a huge mistake.
sms

East Syracuse, NY

#15 Feb 26, 2013
In regards to the long bus ride. What about all the kids from out of town, that live in Richville, Macomb, etc. All of these kids have had to endure a long bus ride and survived just fine. Just saying....
Sensibility

Ithaca, NY

#16 Feb 26, 2013
IT COSTS TOO MUCH TOO KEEP OPEN, PERIOD!
End of discussion.
lolz

Arlington, VA

#17 Feb 26, 2013
Contrary to popular belief this was not something the BOE "couldn't wait" to do. There were what, 5 or ten classrooms in that school tops? And that many empty classrooms in gouverneur?? You were paying for an extra school, basically funding a private school.
sorry

Syracuse, NY

#18 Feb 26, 2013
lolz wrote:
Contrary to popular belief this was not something the BOE "couldn't wait" to do. There were what, 5 or ten classrooms in that school tops? And that many empty classrooms in gouverneur?? You were paying for an extra school, basically funding a private school.
They had it on their agenda as soon as the last superindentent left. Some memebers have even discussed it publibly as "their agenda". It doesn't matter how many classrooms were there as it it is a well ran and awesome school to go to period. Small school education well outweighs larger schools. They BOE should have been looking elsewhere before this cut. Of course the area is worse off, but they have known this for years and depended on the state for a quick hand out. People lost jobs, students lost their school and a community lost a tradition. You can coldly say stuff about hearts and not using their heads, but the arrogance and lack of respect the BOE shows is very sad to say the least. Why do the teachers still get free healthcare and why did the student population go down and administration go up. I look forward to the other 900k they have to come with and as many say things about fowler you may be affected next or next year.
no way

Syracuse, NY

#19 Feb 26, 2013
Taxpayer wrote:
That may be correct however the taxes are only a small portion of the operating expenses for the school. Heat, lights and maintenance are where the savings are going to.com e from. I agree it's unfortunate that it has to close but these are hard economic times. People aren't thinking with their heads but instead with their hearts. An extra 5 mile bus trip to a school that already has classrooms available where the students will get the same quality of education meanwhile saving much needed money just makes sense. I went to elementary, Jr high and High school here and I don't recall the students that came from Fowler being any more or any less successful in Jr high or high school than students that went to East side or West side. When it comes down to it, that's what really matters.
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People are using their heads sorry. You don't know the facts. 5 miles - do you think they all live 5 miles from town altogether? If it was handled differently some would understand, but the BOE has be one a joke of a group who sit with their heads down with no respect for the taxpayers who voted them in. Ids will adjust no doubt, but the history that is erased, the quality education the school offers will not be substituted and the transition will be difficult. No way was this done right.
Judge Judy

Selkirk, NY

#20 Feb 26, 2013
Closed for good! Deal with it

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