Mormons apologize for Catholic shrine desecration by young miss...

[Jake]

Hannah Rebekah wrote:

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You say Brigham had a history of discrimination toward Blacks. Brigham Young certainly did make some unsavory remarks about the black race and denying them the Priesthood but never membership as there were Black members who came west with Brigham Young and worshiped side by side the white members. Mormons at that time were being persecuted and driven from their homes because they did not believe in slavery.
At that time in history all religions used the scriptures in the Bible to justify discrimation against the Blacks and other religions will have to look at their taudry pasts to see just how far they themselves took those beliefs before they can stand in judgement of Brigham Young.
LDS Mormons have never believed in slavery ever yet other Christian religions used the same Bible to justify and promote slavery.
For Anti-Mormons to use a few statements by Brigham Young yet ignore other statements:
Brigham Young did say some positive things about Africans. He said:
"Negroes should be treated like human beings, and not worse than dumb brutes. For their abuse of that race, the whites shall be cursed, unless they repent." (Journal of Discourses 10:111)
"The Lamanites or Indians are just as much the children of our Father and God as we are. So also are the Africans." (Journal of Discourses 11:272)
"Men will be called to Judgment for the way they have treated the Negro." (J.D. 10:250)
Let just look at one example of Reformation Christian and Slavery:
Did you know that in 1845, the Southern Baptists were considered a cult by the Northern Baptists?
By the 1830's tension began to mount between the Northern and Southern Baptists. Baptists in the South were embracing slavery because it was the core of their social and economic order.
Baptists of the North were saying that God would not condone treating one race as superior to another while Southerners said that God intended for races to be separate. In around 1835, the Southern states began complaining that they weren't receiving money for mission work.
Let's put things into perspective. In 1865 over 620,000 Americans died over the slavery issue. Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians all fought for the right to own black people. The LDS Church has always been against slavery. Can the Southern Baptist Convention claim the same?
And don’t forget that it was only in the 1990s that many Southern churches asked forgiveness for their segregationist stance.

The fact that Mormons, Southern Baptists, and other religious groups were racists proves that they are man-made creations with fallible doctrines. How many of today's doctrines will change to accept the prevailing attitude of society in the future?

[gabby]

i attend a mormon church but dont believe all they teach i used to be a pentecostal apostolic i am going to return when i find the right one

[gabby]

i believe the book of mormpn is true it testify of god himself comes down to earth and die for our sins

[Nicki]

Hannah Rebekah wrote:

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Is Lucifer the Brother of Jesus?
The Bible clearly indicates that God the Father is the father of the spirits of all mankind, and that both Jesus and Lucifer are also among his sons. "Orthodox Christians" do not accept this Biblical doctrine.
In contrast Lucifer and all mankind have a common Heavenly Father. The Bible clearly teaches that all men and women who have ever lived in heaven and on earth are the spirit offspring of our eternal Heavenly Father. Paul taught, "For we are also his offspring. Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device". Acts 17:28,29.
We see in Luke 3:38 that Adam is a son of God. It is only logical that we, who are descended from him, are members of the same family. The author of Hebrews affirms the brotherhood of all men by stating that we are to be "in subjection unto the Father of Spirits". Heb. 12:9, see Num. 16:22. The book of I John gives account of our relationship to the Father: "Beloved, now are we the sons of God". 1 John 3:2. Paul speaks of "one God and Father of all (Eph. 4:6).
We learn from the book of Job that "there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them" (Job 1:6). Job makes it clear that as one of the Sons of God, Satan was recognized by the Lord in their presence (Job 1:7- 12,2:1-6). He fell from his heavenly abode,(Luke 10:18, Rev. 12:7-9, Isa. 14:12-14), but that does not negate that he was once a literal "spirit" offspring or child of God. These scriptures clearly show that all of us are offspring of God, our Heavenly Father--including those children who rebelled and followed Satan.
The critic will point to Colossians 1:16 as a prooftext that Jesus is the creator of all things in Heaven and earth and therefore cannot be Lucifer's brother. Such an erroneous interpretation is in sharp contradiction to the passages cited above and others on the subject. The scriptures are clear as to Jesus' creative role and his obedience to his Father's will, but Paul's point in Colossians is not to assert that God the Father did not have spirit children, but rather to emphasize the preeminence of Jesus as he did the will of the Father. v. 18.
That Jesus had a brother named Lucifer is not a new idea to Christians. Catholic writer Giovanni Papini quotes Lactantius, a Third Century Christian writer, from his apologetic work, Divinac Institutines 11.9:
Before creating the world, God produced a spirit like himself replete with the virtues of the Father. Later He made another, in whom the mark of divine origin was erased, because this one was besmirched by the poison of jealousy and turned therefore from good to evil. He was jealous of his older brother who, remaining united with the Father, insured his affection unto himself. This being who from good became bad is called devil by the Greeks.
Papini concludes that, "According to Lactantius, Lucifer would have been nothing less than the brother of the logos, of the word, ie. of the second person of the trinity". Giovanni Papini, The Devil, p. 81.
Lucifer, or Satan of the Old and New Testaments, initially was in heaven but fell and took one third of the Hosts of Heaven with him. Isa. 14:12, Rev. 12:9. His fall from heaven was confirmed by the Savior. Luke 10:18. The Devil and his angels are most anxious to inhabit the bodies of mortals. Lk. 8:2633; Matt. 9:32. All the Savior did, has done and will do, is the antithesis of Lucifer, but both Jesus and Satan are offspring of God the Father, as are all members of the human family.

Don't you know that "Lucifer" was translated incorrectly?

And that Lucifer is supposedly Latin and it is in a Hebrew text?
Explain this.

What happened?