Mark Ring Needs to go

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concerned for Antioch

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What does this guy do all day? Can Ivan Kovlosky
take his place? How do you get in touch with Ivan?
I would rather see any one but Mark Ring in office.
Wasn't he assisting Steve Smouse with the Osmand Park and using township trucks to haul in the contaminated materiel?
It a shame we have such uneducated losers running Antioch Township. You would think with all the previous development and new people coming to Antioch there would be some people to step up to the plate and oust these two
crooks.
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Yep but the village is run no better !. Smouse is a waste of a pay check anyway. And look at whats happened with the village with all the crooked CrAP that taken place with the currant administration. And if that ain't enough look at your state representive, then you have to think God are we screwed or what.
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When I was new to this area, about 14 years ago, I bought a house in Antioch township and when there was a good rain storm, some water from the road would flood my garage.

Someone said to call Mark Ring at the township and ask if he could help? I did and he was out the next morning.

He was a great help with the situation, he knew just what to do, and resloved the problem within a day or two.

It was a very good experience for me.
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Mark Ring has done a great job assisting us here in unincorporated areas during the floods and other storms. He has a small work crew and they do a great job. he is very frugal with the tax dollars and he has earned the vote of all of Antioch Township.
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Feb 24, 2009
 
Ring Fan wrote:
Mark Ring has done a great job assisting us here in unincorporated areas during the floods and other storms. He has a small work crew and they do a great job. he is very frugal with the tax dollars and he has earned the vote of all of Antioch Township.
This must of been written by a Ring family member.
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Feb 24, 2009
 
Old Antioch wrote:
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This must of been written by a Ring family member.
No, just someone that appreciates a good public servant.

Noone an say anything about his opponent as he is an unknown. When you have the opportunity to vote for someone you know vs someone you know nothing about it makes sense to vote for the known, especially when you like what that person has done for Antioch.
concerned for Antioch

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Feb 26, 2009
 
That's great about the crew. But did you see Mark working there. Probably not! I don't think this guy has touched a shovel in his life.
By the way my 6 year old has the intelligence to take the mud out of the ditch to let it flow.
I would rather one of the crew to get his job.
At least then, we would get our moneys worth!
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The NEW candidate for Antioch Highway Commissioner is Ian B Vaskovsky not Ivan. BUT you are right Ring needs to go.
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Mar 3, 2009
 
Howard wrote:
The NEW candidate for Antioch Highway Commissioner is Ian B Vaskovsky not Ivan. BUT you are right Ring needs to go.
What are B Vaskovsky's qualifications?
Never heard of him!
The Chicago

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Mar 3, 2009
 
Just For Fun wrote:
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What are B Vaskovsky's qualifications?
Never heard of him!
I have to tell you, I'm kind of sick and tired of hearing people keep saying what are the qualifications of this person.

We have a village, township, county, state and country in a complete and total mess and people keep questioning the qualifications of new people.

Who cares? Seriously, who cares? We have people with experience in every position and yet we have extreme taxes, TIF giveaways, bailouts and everything else that goes with them.

I think it's time we had some new blood in every position and stop asking for letters of reference. Do you think George Washington was questioned on his past presidential skills?
The Chicago is WRONG

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Mar 3, 2009
 
In order to make educated decisions on elections we need to know qualifications and background of all candidates. It appears that just because he is new makes him better. This is not always the case. We know nothing about this man. Who is Ian? He could be a child molestor for all we know. Does he have any highway or transportation related experience at all? Does he know anything about being a manager of a department? What does he know about road construction nd drainage projects? Now, after we get this information then we can determine if he is best man or not, until that time I am for Ring!
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Mar 3, 2009
 
OK I have talked to Ian V. He seems very capable and has an honest will to make Antioch township roads better. I will be casting my vote for him.

As for Ring, he has constantly made it very difficult for new small business to come to Antioch Township. He would rather we had more housing than more business.

VOTE FOR IAN!!!!!!!
The Chicago is WRONG

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Mar 3, 2009
 
OK, to Concerned for Antioch! You just said some really strange things here. What has mark Ring done to make it difficult for Small Business to come to Antioch Township? He has absolutley nothing to do with this. If a business wants to come into Antioch Township in an incorporated area like the village, it has to deal with the village, if it wants to come into the unincoporated area they have to deal with the county. All Ring is responsible for is maintaining the roads and drainage systems. The highway commissioner has nothing to do with bringing in new development at all. You are either Ian himself or a family member, because you do not have a clue what the highway commissioner does, nor do you really care. All you want it your unqualified relative to have the job so he can hire you!

get real, if you want to match qualifications on this position, lets do that, but quit using issues that are 100% unrelated to the job. This is not fair to either candidate.

Since you talked to Ian, maybe you can answer these general questions:

What is his background? Has he ever had a job related to the maintenance of highways and roads? Does he have any experience in this field or in the use of heavy machinery? Does he understand the role of the position? What does he know about snow removal? What does he know about storm water and flooding?

Answer these with something other then "he wants to make antioch township roads better". Come on, this is the most generic statement I have ever heard. Does Ian know the difference betweena state, county, local, or township controlled road? Which road is he going to improve?

How about budgeting? Has he ever filed a grant application? Has he ever done anything? Oh, thats right, we know nothing about him.
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Mar 3, 2009
 
The Chicago is WRONG wrote:
OK, to Concerned for Antioch! You just said some really strange things here. What has mark Ring done to make it difficult for Small Business to come to Antioch Township? He has absolutley nothing to do with this. If a business wants to come into Antioch Township in an incorporated area like the village, it has to deal with the village, if it wants to come into the unincoporated area they have to deal with the county. All Ring is responsible for is maintaining the roads and drainage systems. The highway commissioner has nothing to do with bringing in new development at all. You are either Ian himself or a family member, because you do not have a clue what the highway commissioner does, nor do you really care. All you want it your unqualified relative to have the job so he can hire you!
get real, if you want to match qualifications on this position, lets do that, but quit using issues that are 100% unrelated to the job. This is not fair to either candidate.
Since you talked to Ian, maybe you can answer these general questions:
What is his background? Has he ever had a job related to the maintenance of highways and roads? Does he have any experience in this field or in the use of heavy machinery? Does he understand the role of the position? What does he know about snow removal? What does he know about storm water and flooding?
Answer these with something other then "he wants to make antioch township roads better". Come on, this is the most generic statement I have ever heard. Does Ian know the difference betweena state, county, local, or township controlled road? Which road is he going to improve?
How about budgeting? Has he ever filed a grant application? Has he ever done anything? Oh, thats right, we know nothing about him.
I agree with this persons questions; what does Ring have to do with opening a business in the township. I still feel the new guy should be given a chance to state his case and not have it made for him (if this isn't him posting) by the Round Lake poster.

Let him state why he feels he's the best person for the job. Stop saying what if and start asking why. See if he gives you the answers.

It is statements like these, posted by RL that makes me wonder why anyone would want to represent any of us.
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The Chicago is WRONG wrote:
In order to make educated decisions on elections we need to know qualifications and background of all candidates. It appears that just because he is new makes him better. This is not always the case. We know nothing about this man. Who is Ian? He could be a child molestor for all we know. Does he have any highway or transportation related experience at all? Does he know anything about being a manager of a department? What does he know about road construction nd drainage projects? Now, after we get this information then we can determine if he is best man or not, until that time I am for Ring!
We have an entire village, township, county, state and country that is filled with people with qualifications and look at the mess we're in. taxes, graft, waste, social services run amuck, bailouts and did I mention the waste?

How's that working out for us? I say out with the old and in with some new. I'm sure Ring is a nice guy and does his job to the best of his ability. From time to time, the pot needs to be stired and the crust from the sides removed to prevent burning and a bitter taste. If Ring is so capable, let him stand on his own two feet and defend his path taken.

New is not bad, bad is bad. I wonder what Ring's qualifications were before he asked for the job? I wonder what anyones is the first time they ask to do something? It's zero and I would rather have someone who recognized something wrong and wanted to fix it than someone who accepted status quo.

I'm not saying Ring is the poor choice or that he's doing a bad job, just that we should from time to time stir the pot and see if something nice floats to the top.
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Mar 3, 2009
 
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We have an entire village, township, county, state and country that is filled with people with qualifications and look at the mess we're in. taxes, graft, waste, social services run amuck, bailouts and did I mention the waste?
How's that working out for us? I say out with the old and in with some new. I'm sure Ring is a nice guy and does his job to the best of his ability. From time to time, the pot needs to be stired and the crust from the sides removed to prevent burning and a bitter taste. If Ring is so capable, let him stand on his own two feet and defend his path taken.
New is not bad, bad is bad. I wonder what Ring's qualifications were before he asked for the job? I wonder what anyones is the first time they ask to do something? It's zero and I would rather have someone who recognized something wrong and wanted to fix it than someone who accepted status quo.
I'm not saying Ring is the poor choice or that he's doing a bad job, just that we should from time to time stir the pot and see if something nice floats to the top.
Your arguements hold no water. You are lumping in all office holders in one pot and saying none of them are any good. You state that Ring should stand on his own feet and defend his path, but you then give no creedence to the call for Ian to provide his credentials. It is in tough economic times like this that we need qualified, experienced people in positions. You may think things can not get worse, but they can. Put Ian's qualifications out for all to see, compare them to Rings and then make a decision. You are to quick to lump Ring in with all that is wrong in the country. This is not fair or right.
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Mar 4, 2009
 
The Chicago is WRONG wrote:
OK, to Concerned for Antioch! You just said some really strange things here. What has mark Ring done to make it difficult for Small Business to come to Antioch Township? He has absolutely nothing to do with this. If a business wants to come into Antioch Township in an incorporated area like the village, it has to deal with the village, if it wants to come into the unincorporated area they have to deal with the county. All Ring is responsible for is maintaining the roads and drainage systems. The highway commissioner has nothing to do with bringing in new development at all. You are either Ian himself or a family member, because you do not have a clue what the highway commissioner does, nor do you really care. All you want it your unqualified relative to have the job so he can hire you!
get real, if you want to match qualifications on this position, lets do that, but quit using issues that are 100% unrelated to the job. This is not fair to either candidate.
Since you talked to Ian, maybe you can answer these general questions:
What is his background? Has he ever had a job related to the maintenance of highways and roads? Does he have any experience in this field or in the use of heavy machinery? Does he understand the role of the position? What does he know about snow removal? What does he know about storm water and flooding?
Answer these with something other then "he wants to make antioch township roads better". Come on, this is the most generic statement I have ever heard. Does Ian know the difference betweena state, county, local, or township controlled road? Which road is he going to improve?
How about budgeting? Has he ever filed a grant application? Has he ever done anything? Oh, thats right, we know nothing about him.
Your right people need to know the duties of the township road commissioner.... I was a bit vague with my complaint so I will explain it for you. I saw a local large property owner at Menards. I asked him when he was going to open the business he has planned on building. He was reluctant to tell me that Mark Ring denied his access permit to a township road without making massive unnecessary improvements to that road at his expense. This will certainly make it impossible for him to have the funds to construct his building. Now I am not talking about a wall mart or super center just a small business that will bring little traffic to that road. I think at this point he is considering moving his business to Wisconsin and sell his property to another developer. Granted the market is bad now and he said he will keep it for the time. But we both know almost all the large parcels of land if not business will be Homes in the future.
Ring does have the authority to permit the access without the improvements. But would rather have more homes I guess.
put your vote were you will, but I will put my X in Ian's spot
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FYI wrote:
<quoted text>Your right people need to know the duties of the township road commissioner.... I was a bit vague with my complaint so I will explain it for you. I saw a local large property owner at Menards. I asked him when he was going to open the business he has planned on building. He was reluctant to tell me that Mark Ring denied his access permit to a township road without making massive unnecessary improvements to that road at his expense. This will certainly make it impossible for him to have the funds to construct his building. Now I am not talking about a wall mart or super center just a small business that will bring little traffic to that road. I think at this point he is considering moving his business to Wisconsin and sell his property to another developer. Granted the market is bad now and he said he will keep it for the time. But we both know almost all the large parcels of land if not business will be Homes in the future.
Ring does have the authority to permit the access without the improvements. But would rather have more homes I guess.
put your vote were you will, but I will put my X in Ian's spot
This is making sense now. Since Mr. Ring wanted improvements to the township owned roads instead of just granting permission to this business or land owner, he is a bad guy. I am guessing this person is a friend of yours or you and that is why you are mad. Have you bothered to call and ask Mr. Ring why he did this? Probably not, you just take the word of someone claiming that he could not get the township to pay for his business road improvements. Sounds like Mr. Ring was doing his job and demanding more for the taxpayers.
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Mar 4, 2009
 
I don't think he's mad, just disappointed. Lets put more homes there fill the schools with more kids. We need it!
Put more cars in the road and get no sales tax for the community. I personally like to hear the way our politicians run things. Maybe we could offer a TIF to the business owner or add a % or 2 to the sales tax to get small business to stay as everyone else has done. Your right the tax payers are better off lets screw the small business owners in Antioch. You must be wall mart's favorite shopper. Don't complain when it's the only place to send your resume or perhaps it was already accepted. Now you will have somewhere to work after you loose the election Mr. Ring. I think if a business owner wants to dump a ton of money into this "great" economy we should kiss his ___.
Lets not let another business leave Antioch.
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The Chicago is WRONG wrote:
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Your arguements hold no water. You are lumping in all office holders in one pot and saying none of them are any good. You state that Ring should stand on his own feet and defend his path, but you then give no creedence to the call for Ian to provide his credentials. It is in tough economic times like this that we need qualified, experienced people in positions. You may think things can not get worse, but they can. Put Ian's qualifications out for all to see, compare them to Rings and then make a decision. You are to quick to lump Ring in with all that is wrong in the country. This is not fair or right.
Again Chicago is Wrong, you miss the point. What I was saying is that everyone, regardless of which job they hold was at some point new to it. They didn't have that much experience.

Everyone is entitled to give it a try and if they get elected, so be it.

These are tough economic times and the fundemental point being missed by you is that we are here as a direct result of any of those in power to adequatly plan for this scenario. No contingency plan was ever place upon the back burner should something like this happen.

Instead, they spent hand over fist and couldn't consume fast enough. We have no reserve as a village, township or state. We are infact broke.

Don't tell me that becasue of these times we should keep in those that have experience when those with experience have been the same ones that failed to protect us.

YOUR arument doesn't hold water my friend.

Let them both state their case, I take no sides in this. The Ian guy's case is, look at where we are; is this where we want to be. And Ring's case is forget about the past and let me keep doing what I'm doing.

Again, let me know where I'm wrong in this thought.

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