Truckers advised to steer clear Antho...

Truckers advised to steer clear Anthony, Vado

There are 91 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Jan 28, 2010, titled Truckers advised to steer clear Anthony, Vado. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

Even before the public knew the details of 20-year-old Adam Espinoza's robbery and murder, Wayne Mosley had a grim hunch.

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Rae

Las Cruces, NM

#83 Feb 3, 2010
Nowadays every single place you go on the face of this earth you have to be catious. I agree there is a problem in Vado but open your eyes! It's everywhere. I am from Vado and have lived there my whole life. No my family are not imigrants! I've never smuggled drugs! Never have I attacked a trucker for $4.23. And guess what Anthony and Vado are not the only places where murders are happening. It is irreponsible and immature of those who say here is where all the murders in the area happen. The whole world is corrupt so don't soley say to steer away from the people of the Vado area. We are not bad people and we are not all out to get every person passing by. What the poor boy went through is horrible but it happens in Oregon it happens is Alabama it happens in Iowa. It happens in the smallest, "close-knit", white-collared communities. I am hugely offended by those who say crude things against where I come from. Get off your pedestals and relize you and where you come from is just as bad or worse. And stop complaining and do someting about it.
Sally SG

Albuquerque, NM

#84 Feb 4, 2010
I understand how these people feel. Yes, there are brutal slaying and brutal attacks everywhere; however but even living here, we have told our children to beware and be watchful because you can't trust anyone. Like I said yes, it happens everywhere, but The gangs and crime rate is very high for the small area. I did a community research project on Anthony for a class and found that the poverty and crime rate (possibly linked) for this area is terrible and is almost equally as bad as the whole of Dona Ana County.
Veteran

El Paso, TX

#85 Feb 4, 2010
Sally SG wrote:
I understand how these people feel. Yes, there are brutal slaying and brutal attacks everywhere; however but even living here, we have told our children to beware and be watchful because you can't trust anyone. Like I said yes, it happens everywhere, but The gangs and crime rate is very high for the small area. I did a community research project on Anthony for a class and found that the poverty and crime rate (possibly linked) for this area is terrible and is almost equally as bad as the whole of Dona Ana County.
I grew up in the Anthony area, back in those days it was a nice little town to live in, neighbors knew each other, you could be outdoors late into the evening enjoys the warms summer nights in your yard without worrying about somebody driving by trying to kill you.

All that changed around the time we got a huge influx of people coming in from California mostly, for whatever reason they decided to relocate to Anthony, and the quiet little town when to $HIT. I left in my late teens and it was still ok but not what it had been, when I came back 22 years later I could not believe the dump it had become.

The biggest problem I see is parent refusing to let their kids take responsibility for their actions. Let mijo go to juvy or lockup instead of bailing him out every time he get locked up, if that does not work, throw the wanna be thug out of the house. He may still be a criminal but at least he will be out of your house, put him in foster care or in a setting when they can do something with him.

There are really no bad kids, there are just a lot of kids that are brought up badly, parents don't take responsiblity so the kids don't eaither. Learned behavior that escalates. Adam's family should sue the families of these wanna be thugs for wrongful death because they are just are responsible as the low lifes that killed him.
lcnative

Preston, MO

#86 Feb 5, 2010
They were smart enough to vote to incorporate themselves - now they are their own town, with their own government and law enforcement. I wish them the best of luck. I can only imagine what type of city council, city police, etc they'll come up with..... the ball is now in thier court.
Sally SG wrote:
I understand how these people feel. Yes, there are brutal slaying and brutal attacks everywhere; however but even living here, we have told our children to beware and be watchful because you can't trust anyone. Like I said yes, it happens everywhere, but The gangs and crime rate is very high for the small area. I did a community research project on Anthony for a class and found that the poverty and crime rate (possibly linked) for this area is terrible and is almost equally as bad as the whole of Dona Ana County.
roxy

Rio Rancho, NM

#88 Feb 6, 2010
Naws wrote:
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Never did I say that only people from Latino descent are engaging exclusively in such activity. That being said, the numbers as a percentage of the population are higher. And not just for violent crime, but for teenage pregnancies, average income, level of education. These statistics all go hand in hand. That's why the lowest income counties and cities in this country are occupied by mainly Latino (and some African American and Native American) residents. In contrast, the highest income and most successful counties and lowest crimes are in cities and counties where there are high numbers of Jewish, Asian American, and Northern European
residents. Suburban New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Illinois, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Maryland, and some areas in California.(California is a geographical outlier to a degree)
This is where culture matters. When you examine the work, study and discipline of a Jew, for instance, versus a Latino.(Hard work and discipline are going to register positively in any capitalistic society) There may be 2 or 3 out of 10 Latinos that have that capacity, but there are 7 or 8 out of the same 10 that don't measure up to the higher achieving demographics. And whenever I mention this, many here get very angry, very frustrated. It's kind of like someone telling you your family sucks, you get angry about it, but you know it's true.
Did you ever think the numbers are higher for mexicans because their are more mexicans? I think you just have your information mixed up, your thinking backwards.
roxy

Rio Rancho, NM

#89 Feb 6, 2010
Rae wrote:
Nowadays every single place you go on the face of this earth you have to be catious. I agree there is a problem in Vado but open your eyes! It's everywhere. I am from Vado and have lived there my whole life. No my family are not imigrants! I've never smuggled drugs! Never have I attacked a trucker for $4.23. And guess what Anthony and Vado are not the only places where murders are happening. It is irreponsible and immature of those who say here is where all the murders in the area happen. The whole world is corrupt so don't soley say to steer away from the people of the Vado area. We are not bad people and we are not all out to get every person passing by. What the poor boy went through is horrible but it happens in Oregon it happens is Alabama it happens in Iowa. It happens in the smallest, "close-knit", white-collared communities. I am hugely offended by those who say crude things against where I come from. Get off your pedestals and relize you and where you come from is just as bad or worse. And stop complaining and do someting about it.
yea its all good if your a Mexican, I went to Vado to do some work during my internship, it required me to walk around the "community" and lets just say, I was not welcome. I was w an agency representing the state of nm and when I knocked on a door people would look out and not answer it. When my "partner" knocked they opened it, she is Mexican.
El Chicano

United States

#90 Feb 9, 2010
Common Sense wrote:
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Another "poor mijo" sympathizer! New Mexico Land of Excuses, Irresponsibility, and Enabling. If wanting to stay away from crime and those who commit it makes one a racist, then count me in.
Guess you can't see sarcasm staring you in the face. These punks should pay dearly and painfully.
El Chicano

United States

#91 Feb 9, 2010
Truth wrote:
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Of course these were not white individuals. However, they were English speaking american teenagers, proud products of the Gadsden Independent School system, several generations deep. Of course any influx of people into a new area creates problems. Unfortunately like the Irish and Eastern Europeans before them, they are almost always viewed as the source of the problem because of extremely shallow and racist individuals. The majority of these recent immigrants are here to make a better living for themselves and their families. They simply follow the true capitalist economic model which dictates that labor will move to areas of higher income, just like business naturally move to areas with lower standards of living and wages. Would you prefer a completely controlled economy, because that's what is implied and that tends to be much more socialist than a free market with flow of goods and labor.
I admit that there is a very small contingency of these immigrants that are here for criminal purposes, much like the Mafia in the early part of the 20th century. These people are driven by greed and see a way to get rich by working in cartels that supply our kids with cheap, low quality drugs. It is our demand for these drugs that drives the criminal element and supplies them with cash and weaponry that only makes them stronger.
Rather than jump to an immediatly racist conclusion that it is those "d*mn wetbacks" , take a look at yourself and those around you. More than 50% of teenagers have smoked pot and a great many of these are middle class white kids. The point is, these problems do not have simple causes nor simple solutions. You can't just wipe a place off the map. The longer that we are in denial the longer that these things will stay the same. Even if you got rid of all of the immigrants, we would still have the same problems because some other group would just take their place.
Several generations my a$$. Pull your head out and call a spade a spade. People like you who cry racism at every opportunity have lost every sense of credibility long ago. You're right, the majority DO come to make a "better living" for themselves and their families. Only problem is that true-blue Americans are providing it to them free of charge by way of free medical care, free education, free food stamps, subsidized housing, incarceration and the list goes on and on. And please stop comparing crimes committed by our fellow Americans to those committed by persons who don't belong here in the first damn place. Are you going to treat a hoodlum that breaks into your house and ransacks your home the same as you would your own kid who trashes your home when you go to work?
Veteran

El Paso, TX

#92 Feb 9, 2010
roxy wrote:
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yea its all good if your a Mexican, I went to Vado to do some work during my internship, it required me to walk around the "community" and lets just say, I was not welcome. I was w an agency representing the state of nm and when I knocked on a door people would look out and not answer it. When my "partner" knocked they opened it, she is Mexican.
Most don't trust white people becuase in those communities white people are usually bad news.
Christian fernandez

United States

#93 Mar 10, 2011
This is to every one who thinks there is danger in vado anthony mesquite. Why is it that you feel danger where I live yet where I felt safe in las cruces I got jumped by some preppy college thugs and robbed in el paso while I went in the store to buy a burger. And yet when I go put gas in my car I leave my windows open and come back nothing is missing. You people seem to forget that these farmland s produce a lot of taxable revenue and a majority of the people that I know from this area have college degrees the only problem is that our properties dont look real good because when my parents got this land it was all we could afford but now its ours
Christian fernandez

United States

#94 Mar 10, 2011
This is for el chicano foolano, dude just say it your racist maybe if you think a little more level headed your argument might be credible.

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