Truckers advised to steer clear Antho...

Truckers advised to steer clear Anthony, Vado

There are 91 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Jan 28, 2010, titled Truckers advised to steer clear Anthony, Vado. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

Even before the public knew the details of 20-year-old Adam Espinoza's robbery and murder, Wayne Mosley had a grim hunch.

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Disgusted

Santa Fe, NM

#1 Jan 28, 2010
If we destroyed Anthony these idiot thugs would just move into Las Cruces. They have to breed somewhere might as well be beyond city limits in Anthony or Mesquite/Vado, rather than my nice quiet home where it's far away from the dumps of the place call Anthony. I also say no to low-income housing in the downtown area as this will ruin any effort to revitalize our dowtown district. Corral them in Anthony and continue to warn others about the dangers of the tri-village (anthony/vado/mesquite) area
El Chicano

United States

#2 Jan 28, 2010
Disgusted wrote:
If we destroyed Anthony these **** thugs would just move into Las Cruces. They have to breed somewhere might as well be beyond city limits in Anthony or Mesquite/Vado, rather than my nice quiet home where it's far away from the dumps of the place call Anthony. I also say no to low-income housing in the downtown area as this will ruin any effort to revitalize our dowtown district. Corral them in Anthony and continue to warn others about the dangers of the tri-village (anthony/vado/mesquite) area
My God! What on Earth are you implying? These were just misguided children of good, role-model high-achievers coming here to work and make better lives for themselves and their throngs of offspring!Let's call it what it is: You're a racist!
Common Sense

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Jan 28, 2010
El Chicano wrote:
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My God! What on Earth are you implying? These were just misguided children of good, role-model high-achievers coming here to work and make better lives for themselves and their throngs of offspring!Let's call it what it is: You're a racist!
Another "poor mijo" sympathizer! New Mexico Land of Excuses, Irresponsibility, and Enabling. If wanting to stay away from crime and those who commit it makes one a racist, then count me in.
Not going to happen

Las Cruces, NM

#5 Jan 28, 2010
"The New Mexico Department of Transportation has never hired security or had cameras at any of its 31 rest areas -- something the Legislature has never appropriated in its budgets, spokeswoman Bridget Spedalieri said."

Boy would the Tea Party scream if they did.
Pete

North Charleston, SC

#6 Jan 28, 2010
El Chicano wrote:
<quoted text>
My God! What on Earth are you implying? These were just misguided children of good, role-model high-achievers coming here to work and make better lives for themselves and their throngs of offspring!Let's call it what it is: You're a racist!
Honestly, would you allow these misguided children in you house for one year so you could mentor them? Honestly now.
I am shocked

Las Cruces, NM

#7 Jan 28, 2010
Just recently I stopped to get a lottery ticket in Vado and got a strange feeling about my surroundings as I was getting back in my car. I've stopped at that rest area many times and just watched my surroundings. I've noticed that it is rather dark there. I'll say this information is quite an EYE OPENER for me. Thanks for telling us your story. Maybe now that we have more cops on the street, they may put more to patrol those areas. Also, Fort Bliss is so close by, maybe they can send rotating units to watch the area.
lcnative

United States

#8 Jan 28, 2010
I wish someone would explain why in the world a lot of the posters here think the gang problem isn't already in Las Cruces? We have had gang problems here since i was a kid. They're all over the state, heck they're even in freaking Canada running drugs to California. Why this seems to be the beginning for most people, it's been an ongoing issue for well over a century. Problem with people nowadays is they wait until there's a tragedy for their eyes to be opened.

I'm also not sure how you think truckers not stopping at these few stops is going to "destroy Anthony". Personally, i'd love to see Border Patrol do a sweep of the entire community between El Paso and here. We'd sure have a lot of open space with no occupants if we did.
Disgusted wrote:
If we destroyed Anthony these **** thugs would just move into Las Cruces. They have to breed somewhere might as well be beyond city limits in Anthony or Mesquite/Vado, rather than my nice quiet home where it's far away from the dumps of the place call Anthony. I also say no to low-income housing in the downtown area as this will ruin any effort to revitalize our dowtown district. Corral them in Anthony and continue to warn others about the dangers of the tri-village (anthony/vado/mesquite) area
EL POLITICO - New Mexico

United States

#9 Jan 28, 2010
Unfortunately, there is a serious gang/crime issue in all communities and Dona Ana County/Las Cruces are no different.

What we need to have the NM Legislature pass a bill requiring camera survillence and security guards on all rest areas in the State. Though this will require funding and costs associated with it, the cost outweights the threats.

Also, responsible truck stop owners/managers should provide grounds security and survillence cameras as well.

The cost of lost of revenue from truckers not stopping for food and fuel impacts the communities in the county/city, not to mention the badly damaged reputation of Southern Dona Ana County communities and the State in general.

Texas requires cameras and security guards from nightfall to the early morning hours.

We are all responsible for the failure in our communities due to poor leadership in government from the local, state and national levels.

It's easy to place blame, but when you neglect communities who are a low tax base and are disenfranchised by elected officials, this is the result of political posturing, rich districts vs. poor district.

Until we as a community demand better government and safe and healthy policing, the problem will continue to grow and perhaps may lead to vigilante judgment.

Please take time to let your voice be heard and contact your State Legislator and ask them to enhance safety in public rest areas.
Phoney

Hollister, CA

#10 Jan 28, 2010
Hey Raul Garcia,
Didn't poor Mr. Espinoza have a Blackberry?
So, I guess "always carrying my telephone" is supposed to make me safe?

Isn't the Sun News in some way responsible for providing this kind of misleading information.

Carrying a phone doesn't make you safe, it only gives the thieves something else to sell once the liberate it from you.

Use your head people
Phoney

Hollister, CA

#11 Jan 28, 2010
El Chicano wrote:
<quoted text>
My God! What on Earth are you implying? These were just misguided children of good, role-model high-achievers coming here to work and make better lives for themselves and their throngs of offspring!Let's call it what it is: You're a racist!
Ha!
I smell bait.
Phoney

Hollister, CA

#12 Jan 28, 2010
Not going to happen wrote:
"The New Mexico Department of Transportation has never hired security or had cameras at any of its 31 rest areas -- something the Legislature has never appropriated in its budgets, spokeswoman Bridget Spedalieri said."
Boy would the Tea Party scream if they did.
That's Right, they would scream.
They would be upset that folks like you would be protected from the consequences of your actions and their stupidity... Namely the welfare mentality you continue to propagate. So go ahead and keep providing housing and food for every slacker that crawls in the door. Soon you will be neck deep in these little gang thugs and they will eat you alive. I bet you change your tune about gun ownership once you get intimate with these upstanding citizens too.
Ha!
Sensible NMcan OutEast

Alexandria, VA

#13 Jan 28, 2010
I am shocked wrote:
Just recently I stopped to get a lottery ticket in Vado and got a strange feeling about my surroundings as I was getting back in my car. I've stopped at that rest area many times and just watched my surroundings. I've noticed that it is rather dark there. I'll say this information is quite an EYE OPENER for me. Thanks for telling us your story. Maybe now that we have more cops on the street, they may put more to patrol those areas. Also, Fort Bliss is so close by, maybe they can send rotating units to watch the area.
Shocked, I'm glad that you sensed danger while in Vado while stopped there. I, too, have had the same feeling in some places around the area in years past, and generally avoided it when traveling on I-10 between El Paso and Las Cruces. However, I should inform you that Fort Bliss' nearby location is not of benefit to the local population. It is illegal, due to the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, for the military (in this case, the Army) to undertake civilian law enforcement duties. I would rattle the cages of your local sheriff in Dona Ana County to warn them of youths congregating, other signs of gang activity. They are ultimately the responsible parties. And don't give me that crap about profiling, either, bleeding hearts. Look, listen, and live. Use common sense.
Phoney

Hollister, CA

#14 Jan 28, 2010
Just imagine what it's going to be like 15 years from now in the south valley!...
Going to El Paso to catch a flight?
Armored Bus Service leaves at 2:30 and 5:00 PM.
tonibgood

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Jan 28, 2010
I thought it would be wise to add that if when gangbangers get caught in some form of illegal activity hit them extra hard with fines but they would only steal it from someone else or sue the county for profiling. Anyway this stems from the moral ethics instilled in kids today and sorry to say "Not my Mijo" attittude is what is bringing up these kids because remember this is what they are. We have gone to soft on punishing our kids because now you can get into a whole lot of crap. Revamp the system its not working and yes spanking does work because open your eyes to what is evident.
EL POLITICO - New Mexico wrote:
Unfortunately, there is a serious gang/crime issue in all communities and Dona Ana County/Las Cruces are no different.
What we need to have the NM Legislature pass a bill requiring camera survillence and security guards on all rest areas in the State. Though this will require funding and costs associated with it, the cost outweights the threats.
Also, responsible truck stop owners/managers should provide grounds security and survillence cameras as well.
The cost of lost of revenue from truckers not stopping for food and fuel impacts the communities in the county/city, not to mention the badly damaged reputation of Southern Dona Ana County communities and the State in general.
Texas requires cameras and security guards from nightfall to the early morning hours.
We are all responsible for the failure in our communities due to poor leadership in government from the local, state and national levels.
It's easy to place blame, but when you neglect communities who are a low tax base and are disenfranchised by elected officials, this is the result of political posturing, rich districts vs. poor district.
Until we as a community demand better government and safe and healthy policing, the problem will continue to grow and perhaps may lead to vigilante judgment.
Please take time to let your voice be heard and contact your State Legislator and ask them to enhance safety in public rest areas.
tonibgood

Albuquerque, NM

#16 Jan 28, 2010
Count me in too, who had sympathy for Adam Espinoza. I think an eye for an eye
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>
Another "poor mijo" sympathizer! New Mexico Land of Excuses, Irresponsibility, and Enabling. If wanting to stay away from crime and those who commit it makes one a racist, then count me in.
Phoney

Hollister, CA

#17 Jan 28, 2010
Why bring race into the issue?
If these thugs were white, Asian, black, purple, or martian would it make a bit of difference to Mr. Espinoza's Family?
This is a cultural issue.
The cultural issue has 0% to do with race and 100% to do with weakness, ignorance, stupidity, and the search for the easiest path through life, which ALWAYS takes the Low Road because it's the path of least resistance. We have subsidized this path through life for decades and generations of people.
No amount of money, legislation and "caring" can undo the decades of damage done and the decades of consequence to come.
Adults know:
Unfortunately some problems don't have a solution.
The one that knows

Las Cruces, NM

#18 Jan 28, 2010
Blame Judge Macias he doesn't know what or who he is dealing with. This young thugs are hard core, it will happen again.

Since: Jan 09

Las Cruces, NM

#19 Jan 28, 2010
Phoney wrote:
Why bring race into the issue?
If these thugs were white, Asian, black, purple, or martian would it make a bit of difference to Mr. Espinoza's Family?
This is a cultural issue.
The cultural issue has 0% to do with race and 100% to do with weakness, ignorance, stupidity, and the search for the easiest path through life, which ALWAYS takes the Low Road because it's the path of least resistance. We have subsidized this path through life for decades and generations of people.
No amount of money, legislation and "caring" can undo the decades of damage done and the decades of consequence to come.
Adults know:
Unfortunately some problems don't have a solution.
I disagree. I think culture and ethnicity go hand in hand. The issue is cultural, but you don't see Scandanavian teenagers engaging in similar acts. You don't see Mandarin Chinese or Ashkenazi Jews engaging in these acts. But you see it with Latinos: it doesn't much matter if it's Mexico, Guatemala, Colombia, etc. And until these trends are reversed, this ethnicity is going to be forever banished to back bench of society.
alorasaurus

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Jan 28, 2010
Does anyone know if there are gang prevention task forces in that area, to get to the children before they join gangs? It appears that this area is in dire need of some kind of preventative measures. If the kids' parents are gang bangers, they aren't going to help their kids to see the proper way to live. So how do we stop the cycle of violence? The kids, starting at an early age, need to know that they have other options other than the thug life. They need to have better schools and better funding.
Tyler

Farmington, NM

#21 Jan 28, 2010
squinty eyed gangs also exist. look @ CA, NY & Japance & China.

I carry a gun when out around there.

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