Fight Over Evolution Looms In Maine School District

The decades-old controversy over the teaching of evolution in public schools is resurfacing in Somerset County. via WLBZ

[Zeke]

I have every confidence the eminently sensible people of Maine will reject this nonsense.

[Primewonk]

In case any of the creationists/IDiots find this board, let me be the first to point out a couple facts.

There is no scientific theory of ID. There is no scientific theory of creationism.

It is not "just a theory". In science a theory is as high as it gets. Theories never get proven or promoted to fact or law. Theories exist to explain facts.

There is more data to support the theory of evolution than the theory of gravity.

Evolution is both fact and theory.

Macro/micro evolution are misnomers. It's all evolution. Add up enough small changes and you get speciation.

Speciation has been observed.

Lady Hope lied.

Evolution does not violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

We did not evolve from monkeys.

A transitional fossil would not be a half man half banana with wings and gills.

It is not evolution vs creationism. There are literally thousands of different mutually exclusive creation myths. Yours is no more, nor no less right than any of the others.

Have I forgotten any?

[Feklahr]

Wow...just wow...

[pbagosy]

Primewonk wrote:

In case any of the creationists/IDiots find this board, let me be the first to point out a couple facts.
There is no scientific theory of ID. There is no scientific theory of creationism.
It is not "just a theory". In science a theory is as high as it gets. Theories never get proven or promoted to fact or law. Theories exist to explain facts.
There is more data to support the theory of evolution than the theory of gravity.
Evolution is both fact and theory.
Macro/micro evolution are misnomers. It's all evolution. Add up enough small changes and you get speciation.
Speciation has been observed.
Lady Hope lied.
Evolution does not violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
We did not evolve from monkeys.
A transitional fossil would not be a half man half banana with wings and gills.
It is not evolution vs creationism. There are literally thousands of different mutually exclusive creation myths. Yours is no more, nor no less right than any of the others.
Have I forgotten any?

But, but, but...

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZUS!

This country has bin goin down teh tollet since they took prayr outta teh scools!

-pb

[twiddler]

I see you have very little knowledge about evolution. Do some more study on the subject. Just because you know a little biology doesn't make you an expert, and knowing the Bible doesn't mean you have the answers to everything. Evolution is a process, just like the formation of planets and stars. There are fundamental laws that govern how things turn out. Science is the study of things through long observations and experiments. People don't spend billions of dollars creating particle accelerators based on a hunch. If you want to learn more, go to richarddawkins.com and read! I've read the whole Bible, and I've studied evolution. I'm no expert in either field, but at the very least I have a greater understanding of what they are both about.

[pbagosy]

twiddler wrote:

I see you have very little knowledge about evolution.

Was this addressed to someone on this thread, or the article?

-pb

[TerryL]

Primewonk wrote:

In case any of the creationists/IDiots find this board, let me be the first to point out a couple facts.
There is no scientific theory of ID. There is no scientific theory of creationism.
It is not "just a theory". In science a theory is as high as it gets. Theories never get proven or promoted to fact or law. Theories exist to explain facts.
There is more data to support the theory of evolution than the theory of gravity.
Evolution is both fact and theory.
Macro/micro evolution are misnomers. It's all evolution. Add up enough small changes and you get speciation.
Speciation has been observed.
Lady Hope lied.
Evolution does not violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
We did not evolve from monkeys.
A transitional fossil would not be a half man half banana with wings and gills.
It is not evolution vs creationism. There are literally thousands of different mutually exclusive creation myths. Yours is no more, nor no less right than any of the others.
Have I forgotten any?

YES!

The Theory of Evolution does NOT deal with:

What was BEFORE the "Big Bang"
What Caused the "Big Bang"
Formation of the universe.
How life first started.

I'm sure there are more.....

[llDayo]

Primewonk wrote:

In case any of the creationists/IDiots find this board, let me be the first to point out a couple facts.
There is no scientific theory of ID. There is no scientific theory of creationism.
It is not "just a theory". In science a theory is as high as it gets. Theories never get proven or promoted to fact or law. Theories exist to explain facts.
There is more data to support the theory of evolution than the theory of gravity.
Evolution is both fact and theory.
Macro/micro evolution are misnomers. It's all evolution. Add up enough small changes and you get speciation.
Speciation has been observed.
Lady Hope lied.
Evolution does not violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
We did not evolve from monkeys.
A transitional fossil would not be a half man half banana with wings and gills.
It is not evolution vs creationism. There are literally thousands of different mutually exclusive creation myths. Yours is no more, nor no less right than any of the others.
Have I forgotten any?

This list should be at the start of every thread ever made in regards to creationism vs evolution. Seriously.

[Kong]

Where's Wayne?

[pbagosy]

Kong wrote:

Where's Wayne?

Delaware?

-pb

[The Dude]

Has he finally left like he said he would?

[Feklahr]

Kong wrote:

Where's Wayne?

Well one thing's for sure, he's not buried in the woods about 20 miles southeast of Iowa City!

[Nettiebelle]

The Dude wrote:

Has he finally left like he said he would?

I would like to say that Wayne will never leave, he will just nasty away.

But that would be a nasty thing to say, so I won't say it.

[Kong]

It's not as entertaining without him. After all, the first three letters of "fundimentalist" is "FUN"!

[Dennis2]

It amazes me that this controversy keeps resurfacing, and is actually given any credibility, in state after state and district after district. Don't they know how to read? Haven't they seen every other ruling on the subject? Isn't it obvious to them that they are going to get smacked down if they proceed with such nonsense?

It's like a bunch of people watching one person after another run into a brick wall and smashing their heads, but then thinking that maybe, just maybe, if THEY try to run through it, THIS time it will be different and they'll be able to pass right through!

Bottom line. Creationism/ID is NOT science, no matter how many science-type words you try to disguise it in. Hence, it doesn't belong in science class. Creationism/ID is religious based, hence, it is unconstitutional to push it into public schools. Case closed, you fundies really need to stop wasting tax payer money and school district time that could be used for actual education instead of lining lawyer's pockets, as we have to counter your insanity over and over again.

[BloodyViking]

One person on a board (of 11?) saying something stupid does not rate a "Fight over Evolution Looms..." headline. The board probably has to address his idiocy as a matter of protocol, but hopefully they will treat it as the pile of used food that it is.

[Fossil Bob]

Agaiiiinnnnn....?

Oh well...we knew it would pop up somewhere else.

It's like playing "whack-a-mole"...

[Darwins Stepchild]

Fossil Bob wrote:

Agaiiiinnnnn....?
Oh well...we knew it would pop up somewhere else.
It's like playing "whack-a-mole"...

LOL..."whack-a-mole" ...The best description of what is going on that I think I have heard.

[Chuck Zimmerman]

Try not to find the irony in this:

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/jefferson...

[Chuck Zimmerman]

It requires a leap of faith to believe in a God that chooses not to be seen nor known.
It requires no such thing to witness first hand that as a living orgaism's environment changes, it must adapt or die.
Just put a conservative Calvinist Trinnitarrian on an open fire. If they don't grow steel skin, too bad.