Tacoma bank robbed to start a crime family?

Luke Sommer, the U.S. Army Ranger accused of masterminding the takeover robbery of a Tacoma bank in August, planned to use proceeds from the heist to launch a "crime family" in Canada, federal authorities ...

[Elliott Sommer]

Well considering if that was the case I would have needed to take my share of the money with me, that makes complete and total sense. Except, according to US charging papers, I left not only the weapons but the cash. How does that make sense? I have no issues with 81 and their particular brand of enterprise, but it is not something I find myself interested in at all. Let the police deal with 81, and let the enlightened public deal with me.

[Mamuck]

Dumbass. You frieked out and ran without going back for your stuff. I talked to some of your buddies in 2/75. They said you were a good soldier, but that you were full of shit in your accusations. How can you turn on your Ranger Buddies like that just trying to make yourself look good. If you had legitimate accusations thier are channels to process those in the Army and I well know they would love nothing better than get dirt on the Ranger REGT, so it wouldn't be swept under the rug. Besides the fact I know some of your buddies (one was your roommate and my Ranger Buddy for 4 months) very well and they said it wasn't true. Why don't you buck up and take the hit and haul ass, instead of acting like a whinny little brat. You are a Mother F-ing disgrace to the Tab and the Scroll. Robbing a bank isn't disgraceful. Your boys were proud of you, but useing them to justify yourself? Your logic is retarded at best.

[alexk0]

And Mamuck how can your words but trusted anymore than his? Why some many stuff from socom are classified for so long? I mean Iran-Contra is an example to the length the government/military can go to hide "disturbing facts". I am sure there must be a lot of those facts in the wage war on terror.

[Elliott Sommer]

Mamuck wrote:

Dumbass. You frieked out and ran without going back for your stuff. I talked to some of your buddies in 2/75. They said you were a good soldier, but that you were full of shit in your accusations. How can you turn on your Ranger Buddies like that just trying to make yourself look good. If you had legitimate accusations thier are channels to process those in the Army and I well know they would love nothing better than get dirt on the Ranger REGT, so it wouldn't be swept under the rug. Besides the fact I know some of your buddies (one was your roommate and my Ranger Buddy for 4 months) very well and they said it wasn't true. Why don't you buck up and take the hit and haul ass, instead of acting like a whinny little brat. You are a Mother F-ing disgrace to the Tab and the Scroll. Robbing a bank isn't disgraceful. Your boys were proud of you, but useing them to justify yourself? Your logic is retarded at best.

[e-mail] Mammuk lets clear something up. Mention the name of someone in the email so I know your for real.

[The Zero Void Show]

Mamuck wrote:

Dumbass. You frieked out and ran without going back for your stuff. I talked to some of your buddies in 2/75. They said you were a good soldier, but that you were full of shit in your accusations. How can you turn on your Ranger Buddies like that just trying to make yourself look good. If you had legitimate accusations thier are channels to process those in the Army and I well know they would love nothing better than get dirt on the Ranger REGT, so it wouldn't be swept under the rug. Besides the fact I know some of your buddies (one was your roommate and my Ranger Buddy for 4 months) very well and they said it wasn't true. Why don't you buck up and take the hit and haul ass, instead of acting like a whinny little brat. You are a Mother F-ing disgrace to the Tab and the Scroll. Robbing a bank isn't disgraceful. Your boys were proud of you, but useing them to justify yourself? Your logic is retarded at best.

Robbing a bank isn't disgracefull? Hell yea it is. Rangers are not suppose to do any harm nor cause a ituation where harm may come to a United states citizen..... Opps I guess Rangers are not as big of men as Marines are. A Marine would own up to his mistake, and willingly take the punishment for it. A Marine fucks up, he understands a price has to be paid, so he pays it.

Besides this profile is just a bull shit profile, as this whole response topic started by allegedly a person mentioned in the article is bull shit. A fake poser trying to muddle the whole thing or a pansy ass person who is really the real person but not worth the air he breathes himself. Come on dude, your a fuck up. You did something illegal and wrong. You where involved in it, no matter your level of involvement. if you know about it, you go to channels to stop it before it happens. Be a man, grow some balls and do whats right. You fucked up and your too dickless to pay the price for your mistakes.

Semper Fi.....

[Elliott Sommer]

Zero void... Shut up. Your out of your element Donny. Let real men speak, your marine faggit ass isn't welcome here.

Mamuck. Two names... Mitchel and Naylor. If anyone at 275 that was there for oif 4 in Madlslashers contests that I will turn tail and run. But they won't. This isn't a defense tactic based solely on exploiting legal legislation, it is based on the truth.
Did I mention TF Red doing anything illegal? Not once, but Green did, and I kept my mouth shut for YEARS. But that being said, my distaste was not unknown.

[The Zero Void Show]

Elliott Sommer wrote:

Zero void... Shut up. Your out of your element Donny. Let real men speak, your marine faggit ass isn't welcome here.
Mamuck. Two names... Mitchel and Naylor. If anyone at 275 that was there for oif 4 in Madlslashers contests that I will turn tail and run. But they won't. This isn't a defense tactic based solely on exploiting legal legislation, it is based on the truth.
Did I mention TF Red doing anything illegal? Not once, but Green did, and I kept my mouth shut for YEARS. But that being said, my distaste was not unknown.

YEA, BUT AS CRAPY AS YOU SAY I AM.... YOU FUCKED UP AND GOT CAUGHT ND RATTED OU YOUR FRIENDS.... SO WHOSE THE PUNK ASS....

OH IN PRISION THEY DONT LIKE PEOPLE WHO SOLD OUT THEIR FRIENDS.

IN PRISION YOU'LL BE THE SHOWER BITCH... NO MATTER HOW TOUGHT YOU TRY TALKING.

[Mamuck]

Ok I just read some more comments and want to respond. Alexo...I can't believe you are bringing up the Iran-Contra stuff. Dude thats part of history. Since when did you think war was fair and think that governments don't hide stuff. I'm not debating that stuff on a grand scale. Of course ours and any other government hides stuff. I'm calling Sommers out on a single incident because I have inside information that he is lying. How can my words be trusted? I'm not trying to spread the word or convince anyone. Take what you want from it. Frankly I don't care if you or anyone else believes me. I'm just calling out Sommers on this issue. FYI yes this is Sommers. I'm going to make some phone calls to validate his latest info. But he drops too much info to be anyone but himself. It would have to be someone from his unit posing as him to have this knowledge. Possible but highly unlikely. So that being said Alexo this is two Rangers (soldiers) debating an issue. Take it or leave it.
Marine...Obviously you don't know a whole lot about Rangers. They (BATT REGT) have never claimed to be angels. Protect the innocent and weak. Whatever thats in fairy tales. Rangers are created to destroy and kill. Its thier leadership that has the job to focus them and control them. A Marine would'nt do all this. yeah right. Read the papers dumbass Marines are always in trouble. I can tell you are a highschool kid believing all the heroic crap fed to you by a recruiter. Let me burst your bubble...Marines, Rangers, Infantrymen, they are all the same. They are killers. Thats thier job, thats what they enjoy doing. The only difference is they have pride and unit loyalties. Yes there are exceptions and many are intensly patriotic but they fulfill a role that is needed by our country.

[The Zero Void Show]

Mamuck wrote:

Ok I just read some more comments and want to respond. Alexo...I can't believe you are bringing up the Iran-Contra stuff. Dude thats part of history. Since when did you think war was fair and think that governments don't hide stuff. I'm not debating that stuff on a grand scale. Of course ours and any other government hides stuff. I'm calling Sommers out on a single incident because I have inside information that he is lying. How can my words be trusted? I'm not trying to spread the word or convince anyone. Take what you want from it. Frankly I don't care if you or anyone else believes me. I'm just calling out Sommers on this issue. FYI yes this is Sommers. I'm going to make some phone calls to validate his latest info. But he drops too much info to be anyone but himself. It would have to be someone from his unit posing as him to have this knowledge. Possible but highly unlikely. So that being said Alexo this is two Rangers (soldiers) debating an issue. Take it or leave it.
Marine...Obviously you don't know a whole lot about Rangers. They (BATT REGT) have never claimed to be angels. Protect the innocent and weak. Whatever thats in fairy tales. Rangers are created to destroy and kill. Its thier leadership that has the job to focus them and control them. A Marine would'nt do all this. yeah right. Read the papers dumbass Marines are always in trouble. I can tell you are a highschool kid believing all the heroic crap fed to you by a recruiter. Let me burst your bubble...Marines, Rangers, Infantrymen, they are all the same. They are killers. Thats thier job, thats what they enjoy doing. The only difference is they have pride and unit loyalties. Yes there are exceptions and many are intensly patriotic but they fulfill a role that is needed by our country.

Yes I agree, but I was sarcastically reply to this dumbass. I know lots of Marines that get in rouble. I did a stint in the brig from my involvement with what people call Iran-Contra. I did 5 years out of a 15 year sentence. I got a Presidential pardon and a over turned judgement with records sealed then expunged. So I am no sait. But I do not go around bragging about it. And particularly if I brag about being a turn coat.... Cause if you had a "conscience" you wouldnt have done the orginal crime. Only doing the crime then turning everybody else in to save yourself is a cowards way... My comments were sarcasum to the post....

[Elliott Sommer]

Mamuck: If your a batt boy and you have worked with Green then you try and tell me that it is above them to do what I described. Another thing, half the stuff the press puts out is misquoted, misread and selectively put to paper. 2/75 is out of Seattle man, not exactly an area famous for being right wing.

As for ratting out my friends... look at court records. By the time I was in custody, three out of five had been detained and had given statements. The last guy was caught based on the statements of the first three. Check your shit next time.

0 Void. Your still a pussy fuck up. Piss off.

[Elliott Sommer]

PS: How did I turn on everyone else? I am the only one not getting considered for a deal. I have not given a single piece of evidence in any form to any law enforcement agency in this continent who can employ it in court. No testimony, no confession... nothing.

So if you seem to think I sold people out for less time? Think again, I was the ONLY one who didn't sell out.

[Mamuck]

You seem to be missing my point. I don't care that you ratted or didn't rat out your bank robbing buddys. My issue is when you were caught you claimed you did it to get noticed so you could spread the word about 2/75 war crimes. Seattle not-right wing is an understatement. Then again I guess I understand you are trying to stay in Canada and avoid facing prosecution here. It just pisses me off that you slander your brothers in arms (not your bank robbing buddys) in order to save yourself. No Green would never do something like that. You've got your Ranger buddys who trusted you with thier lives and believed in you. You should have heard them bragging about you all and how well your bank heist went. Then you went and fucked them in the ass with accusations. WTF By the way theres not a whole lot of liency (sp?) you can get with bank robbery. My brother in law did a plea deal and got 25yrs vs 65yrs. So whats your plans now?

[Mamuck]

Zerovoid, Your post this past time actually made a little sense. How friekin old are you. I wasn't even alive for Iran-Contra

[The Zero Void Show]

I am 45. I personally knew USN Cmdr Richard Marchinko (ret) I personally knew USMC LtCol Oliver North (ret) I personally knew USN Flt Admrl John Pointdexter (ret). I was an instructor at The Schools of The America. I have been Marine Force Recon for the last 25 years. I did the Ranger Training and the Special Forces Training as required by my RIP requirements I did BUDSEAL I did SERE and many others. I am not a saint, but I know all about being a "bad ass" and sticking to your guns and standing for a cause and loyalties to your own fellow brothers. If I do something and it's a wrong thing to do. I take my lumps. I do not try to make it a statement about something. I do not try to play the I am innocent card. I do not chicken out. I do not fail my own. I do not turn my back on my own. I suffer so they do not have to, laying my life on the line so they are safe and well, as they would do for me. I do not roll over on people. I do not beome a turn coat. I also would never do something as stupid as rob a bank. Even if it is to "make a political statement" or if it is to make money. If I were to do such I definately would not be playing the pussy ass pansy card and then name calling everybody else. This Sommer's puke should knw that Duanne "Dog" Chapman isn't the only bad ass bounty hunter that can or will cross country lines to get people, he's just the most public seeking attention getting greedy fuck wad that gets all the attention for doing such. So remember Sommer, you might want to start watching your back with all the people you piss off. I there might be some people here who will end up showing you how much of a puke you are...

[Elliott Sommer]

0Void, your such a poser. Your talking to two Rangers who understand the language your trying to speak, and your speaking it like an illiterate. For the love of God, shut the hell up.

Mamuk: Research what really happened. I did something to expose warcrimes by Green, not red. And for your information, the shit that Red did do, I haven't mentioned.(Again, see Mitchel and Naylor)

I understand you may a little betrayed, and you may think it was a fallback excuse... but I have more than a couple guys in my platoon who are STILL willing to talk to me because they know that what I am doing was a moral choice.

Don't get me wrong, they don't agree with my method and they think talking about this stuff is violating our "code" but they still speak with me.

[The Zero Void Show]

Elliott Sommer wrote:

0Void, your such a poser. Your talking to two Rangers who understand the language your trying to speak, and your speaking it like an illiterate. For the love of God, shut the hell up.
Mamuk: Research what really happened. I did something to expose warcrimes by Green, not red. And for your information, the shit that Red did do, I haven't mentioned.(Again, see Mitchel and Naylor)
I understand you may a little betrayed, and you may think it was a fallback excuse... but I have more than a couple guys in my platoon who are STILL willing to talk to me because they know that what I am doing was a moral choice.
Don't get me wrong, they don't agree with my method and they think talking about this stuff is violating our "code" but they still speak with me.

Elliot your the poser and puke. God a Ranger hiding in Canada? How cowardly. What a black eye the Rnagers have gotten. And yet you continue to spout shit and continue to give the rangers a black eye.
Some how I doubt this is really the dude mentioned in the story. Ok Ranger boy, tell you what. Since I have a top Secret Clearence. Since I am a Marine attached to DISAM/DSCA. With an email addy of [e-mail], like I would actually give my government e mail addy out publicly. But you get the point. So Ranger Boy, you know what the acronyms mean. I can easially follow up on this. So keep talking Puke. Just so you know the rank is Capt. The MOS ia an 11 Bravo, Victor Bravo, MAGTF. I am sure you know the designations. Currently I am assigned directly out of the National Military Command Center as a Liasion for The Department of Homeland Security Center Of Excellence. So squackie boy. Step up and grow some nads. Let those balls of yours drop and become a man. You did nothing. And I follow the story, more than whats in the media......

So stop being the chicken shit you are, and become a man.

PS If your hiding up in Canada, you are chicken shit. Take responsibility for your own actions and then accept the punishment for those actions. Thats what a man does. Anything is is a scared little pussy girl whose all talk.

[Tomislav Spajic]

I cant beleve you guys are that stupid! Look at the big picture. Get all the facts before accusing Elliott deepshits.. Do you guys realize you are living in a nutshell with the head in the sand?

[Tomislav Spajic]

THE ZERO VOID SHOW WROTE:
"Elliot your the poser and puke. God a Ranger hiding in Canada? How cowardly. What a black eye the Rnagers have gotten. And yet you continue to spout shit and continue to give the rangers a black eye.
Some how I doubt this is really the dude mentioned in the story. Ok Ranger boy, tell you what. Since I have a top Secret Clearence. Since I am a Marine attached to DISAM/DSCA. With an email addy of [e-mail], like I would actually give my government e mail addy out publicly. But you get the point. So Ranger Boy, you know what the acronyms mean. I can easially follow up on this. So keep talking Puke. Just so you know the rank is Capt. The MOS ia an 11 Bravo, Victor Bravo, MAGTF. I am sure you know the designations. Currently I am assigned directly out of the National Military Command Center as a Liasion for The Department of Homeland Security Center Of Excellence. So squackie boy. Step up and grow some nads. Let those balls of yours drop and become a man. You did nothing. And I follow the story, more than whats in the media......

So stop being the chicken shit you are, and become a man.

PS If your hiding up in Canada, you are chicken shit. Take responsibility for your own actions and then accept the punishment for those actions. Thats what a man does. Anything is is a scared little pussy girl whose all talk."
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So you are the real man? The real fucking stereotype? Talking about issues doesnt make you a real man deepshit.. Taking action on something you feel is wrong inside moral boundries, that makes you a real man.. Can you even grasp the implications of this?, or of what elliott did? Do you even understand the intentions? Can you even think for your self or are you just trained to be a deepshit looking in only one non-felxible direction?

We all know what elliott did, and we all know what it looks like, but do you trully beleve that Elliotts intentions are the same as those the media says? "Zero Void" your the pussy here and accusing someone of something you cant even understand, take a fucking walk and take a look at the world, and tell ure self, whos the real pussy here? I would say that would be you..

No, the Rangers have not got an "black eye" When all needed info surfaces as usual, we will se what the true intentions where, and you Zero bullshit will be eating your own god damn words..

Cheers

[Tomislav Spajic]

Actions are not the same as Intentions, didnt you guys know that? You people think to small.. Thats why you cant really understand what happened and why.. When Actions and Intentions are treated as the same for a long time you become stupid, and seperating those two words becomes more of a religion that something simple that everyone should understand.

[Elliott Sommer]

Void, you are so fucking dumb. Your like a black guying wearing a hood at a KKK rally. You might blend in for a while, but as Bad Boys II showed us... once the masks come off, the bullets come flying.

Your a poser in a forum filled with Rangers, Operators and military reporters, and you can't even get a simple MOS right by BRANCH, let alone enlisted/officer status.

You seem to think highly of yourself "Captain" however maybe you should think about the fact that impersonating an officer is a felony, and since I am a fairly well researched person, anyone who has your IP address can verify who you are.

Stick with pretending to be a MC battalion recon corporal, you will get a little bit of pussy, and the rest of the Jarheads will keep their sodomy to the rest of the infantry.