Sandi Patty leaving Anderson

Dec 10, 2008 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Herald-Bulletin

Grammy-award winning gospel singer Sandi Patty will be leaving Anderson to move back to her birthplace: Oklahoma City, Okla.

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Can

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No one is perfect. Sure Sandi may be famous for her singing, but when you break it down, she's a normal woman living a normal life like anyone else - so quit judging her based on what she did because there is no greater than sin then turning your back on God. So quit being hypocrites and look at yourself in the mirror for once and see who you are!!!!!
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May 24, 2010
 
I would love to believe that the almost canned speech(s) referring to her affair with Peslis and whatever spiritual epiphany followed was sincere. It was not. That my friends is one of the smartest marketing strategies around and has been used time after time when celebrity/public people face a charge that is undeniable. It is an old technique but remains effective. It is a proactive search and destroy tactic.

The bottom line is instead of hiding or not addressing the large pink elephant in the room, you go attack it right in center. Executing this gesture many times will gain and even change public opinions that once were less favorable. With this “confession” of sins and taking responsibility at large make a positive effect on the public.

Look at Martha Stewart. She faced her peers, press and the public; despite a judgment against her, she served, and the new marketing strategy was to now depict Martha less perfect, exposing that even she flops. In fact, when commenting on “mistakes”, she tells the public, of course she makes errors, but if she couldn’t present a perfect product, it would be idiotic for her to market something that didn’t work. And that is true. The public’s overall mood changed from once almost demanding “off with her head” of what they saw, literally a perfect woman who failed at nothing, now a smaller pedestal and one they could relate to better. Martha didn’t change. Her marketing did.

Sadly, I personally know people that are directly within the Sandi Patty arena. She and Don are like congress, the rules of God's grace only are meant for the chosen. A cast system, one where they hold elite stature. Insightful books, remarks and one heard at ever concert all part of the marketing strategy to regain what she had lost, now were for sale. It worked, but never gained her the following she once had. Most won’t see this, but those that are fortunate to see it from the inside; it will make the repentance all the more disingenuous.
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Did Don Peslis get involve with Character Development at Anderson University and Character Counts of Madison County before or after his adulterous affair with Sandi Patti ?
How can you have character and trustworthiness when you cheat (adultery) on your married mate ?
Ironic isn't it !
Let them leave, Anderson needs a good moral cleaning.
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Lots of people offering opinions on people and situations they don't know. I watch my own actions these days. It's really the only thing I know and can control.
Joseph

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The Word applies to one and all, concerning very real and specific violations, regardless of status.

"Lest ye repent, ye shall likewise perish." ~Jesus
Erin

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Amen Joseph--you're right!

"The Word applies to one and all, concerning very real and specific violations, regardless of status."

"Lest ye repent, ye shall likewise perish." ~Jesus

Because Sandi Patty has not given up her adulterous remarriage--she has not come to repentance. "Let everyone that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity." (2 Timothy 2:19)

You cannot end your adultery by marrying your adultery partner--Jesus said you’re just continuing it.(Luke 16:18)

Remarriage is not a matter of being forgiven by God for what you have done--it is a matter of not being married in the sight of God. Homosexual couples have fought real hard to get the right to be married in the church--are they married in the sight of God?

For the last 50 years people have been divorcing their spouses and showing up at church to be remarried--are they remarried in the sight of God? You can get all the approval you want from men, but God’s approval is the only one that counts.

Remarriage is a deception from Satan that many people fall for. Few people are making others aware that they have been deceived.

Remarriage is the Greatest Deception of Our Age.

The simple fact is that according to God's Word--Sandi Patty’s new "marriage" is adultery as long as John Helvering remains alive--read Romans 7:2-3.

A new vow does not supersede the original vow made. I pray that she seeks God’s Word and comes to the truth.

She can find information here:
http://www.cadz.net/links.html

"A wife is married to her husband as long as he lives."
1 Corinthians 7:39
Erin

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Jun 6, 2010
 
"Truth carries with it confrontation. Truth demands confrontation; loving confrontation, but confrontation nonetheless."
--Francis Schaeffer

The Pope’s recent comments addressing the issue of divorce and remarriage pertain to all of us--Catholic or not--because they are straight from the Word of God.

Pope Benedict warned the bishops of the "irregular and dangerous situation" of divorced and remarried Catholics.

"Only the first marriage exists", he said, "there is no husband and wife in a second marriage, rather they are a man and woman living in adultery."

Why are some pastors so afraid to tell the people the truth? Do we need the Pope to speak out about the truth because we are too afraid? Why aren’t people being warned that only the "first marriage" exists in the sight of God? God will not join people to a second spouse after a "no fault divorce." His Word makes that clear.

Jesus said remarriage is adultery against the first spouse.

"Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery and he who marries one who is divorced from a husband commits adultery."
—Jesus Christ

Because remarrying after a divorce constitutes adultery, we must ask ourselves who are we committing adultery against if we are no longer married?

If a divorce makes us single why are we committing adultery after a divorce?

If we have no spouse after a divorce then who are we committing adultery against?

The answer is obvious--we still have a spouse after divorce.
Because Jesus said the adultery we are committing is against the one from whom we are divorced--this person must still be our spouse or we could never commit adultery against them!

The divorce dissolved nothing. The divorce did not end the marriage.

If you are charged with adultery after a divorce you must still be married, because the charge of adultery can only be brought against married people. The courts are allowing people to think they ended their marriage with a "no fault divorce" but Jesus says otherwise.

If divorce truly ended marriage, it would be impossible to commit adultery after divorcing. The fact that Jesus Himself says that the adultery kicks in after a divorce means that divorce is powerless to actually end the marriage covenant.

Marriage is for life regardless of what the courts say.

So many people are deceived.
Will you be among the deceived?

If a divorce makes us single--why then did Jesus say we are committing adultery while on a honeymoon with a new partner after a divorce?

The court may declare someone’s marriage dissolved--but Jesus does not agree with the court.

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Jun 11, 2010
 
Not always Erin. I was real glad to find this passage after my divorce!!

Matthew 19:9

And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
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Come on people. Lighten up. Sure Sandi has made some mistakes in her life regarding her personal life. I am sure everyone commenting here has never sinned before. You all are showing all these passages about adultery and divorce, but why are you not showing about the rest of the sins of the world that are being committed. I'm sure by Christian artists, too. Just because she made a mistake does not give others the right to criticize her every move! The people in Anderson were accepting of her, even though they all may not agree with her choices. God never told any of us to criticize, judge, patrinize, or play God concerning anyone. That is just as much of a sin as what Sandi did. I am now and forever will be a fan of hers, and I think she deserves a break from all this drama. Heaven knows she has had enough!
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Sandi Patty and others of her ilk should step away from the microphone as 'Christian artists'. She may be as all-American as apple pie, but she is no longer qualified to be looked up to as a 'voice' for the Body of Christ. Let her sing all she wants for secular audiences. Let her have her own life, and explain her choices any way she wants. It's all about the money for her to continue to tap the religious music consumer. The Church of the Living God owes her no allegiance or adulation! Turn off the radio or the TV when she comes on. It's the most effective way to diminish her influence.
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i just think people need to butt out of the business of don and sandi all together. They're not saints by any means despite sandi being a famous singer. And if she wasn't a singer - would you still be throwing stones at her still? I think not - so butt out of her business you hypocrites. Look in your closets - im sure everyone has at least one skeleton hanging up in their closet - and if not - well then sandi and don are just nothing compared to your own sins. shut it
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Thank you Erin, for telling like it is - according to the bible, not modern day Christianity.
Concerned about Marriages

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Dec 2, 2010
 
Those of us who value marriage deeply and have a burden about the increase of divorce within the church are being looked upon as judgemental Pharisees who are ready to pick up stones and throw them. That's not the case, for most of us anyway.

We are concerned that divorce has become soooo commonplace that even Christians have gotten used to it and have even embraced it themselves. I'm not wanting to throw stones or take them by the collar and say "REPENT SINNER!" in a hateful tone of voice. Yet i am very burdened by how far divorce has spread and how low covenant commitment has slipped.

I mean, first there was Amy Grant, then Sandi Patti (the first time around), then Carmen and Jaci and Wayne W. and a number of others. To us who value marriage, this situation among well known Christians that mirrors what's happening in the church at large has gotten pathetic.

Something needs to be done. Our pastors need to preach purity and commitment of marriage and practice it themselves.... following the example of Billy Graham who when he traveled made sure not to ride alone with any woman that was not his wife, or made sure that his door was open or unlocked when in the office with a female person.

I think that rebuke has a place in the church. But it has to be a loving rebuke with an attitude of "there but by grace go i". This then get's followed up by encourgement and such.

A number of things need to be done to get those divorce numbers down. We owe it to God. We owe it to our spouses, and we owe it to ourselves. Those of us who can counsel others within our circles should... as best we can. If we don't fight for other's marriages, how will our resolve last when our own marriage face severe trial.

Something needs to be done

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A brother with no stone in hand.
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Interesting thread. As a child of divorced parents, and someone who has been married for almost seventeen years, I can relate to the subject matter very well. We really have a wide latitude of views here. I'm somewhere in the middle, I suppose.
First off, as someone pointed out earlier, David was an adulterer and yet the Bible tells us he was "a man after God's own heart." Clearly, people can make mistakes, find God's forgiveness, and still be used as a tool for His divine purpose. Some of you are giving the impression that since their was a second marriage that God is not capable of blessing others through these people's lives. You don't know that. Only God truly knows their heart right now.
I wonder how the hardliners on this list would view my father remarrying after my mother divorced him after twenty-five years of marriage. Since he did not initiate the divorce would you consider him an adulterer for getting married a second time?
I was burdoned by my mother divorcing my father but when she told me it was that or suicide--that's how far she had fallen emotionally--I was not too critical of her. I'm glad she is still alive and I am hopeful that God will continue working on her heart. My father and his second wife have had a very healthy marriage and are active leaders at their church.
Lastly, I agree that it's concerning when Christian musicians divorce and have affairs but it also shows how people put them on a pedestal. Because they are vocally talented "we" expect them to not commit the sins that many of us struggle with? That really doesn't make sense to me.
I have no doubt that Amy Grant, Sandi Patti, Wayne Watson and others who have divorced their spouses are saved and God is able to use them for his purpose still. Do I think they were wrong to divorce their respective spouses? Absolutely. I also think it's wrong for people to cheat on their taxes, to lie to their employers, and a thousand other transgressions that many of us have committed over the years. We have all sinned and fall short of God's standards.
Let's pray for these people rather than point a finger at them. I don't hear too many of the accusers on this list quoting what Jesus said about having a beam in one's eye.
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Why put these people in a high place to begin with? Our "Christian" culture does that.Our example is Jesus. Not Billy Graham, not Amy Grant, and not James Edwards. When we look at other Christians as standards, they will come short one way or another every time. Did these singers do awesome work and touch hearts? Absolutely. Are they capable of falling, yes. Is Jesus? No.
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Erin wrote:
When a man and a woman marry having the scriptural right to do so...a union is formed and God’s Word declares that this union shall continue as long as both partners live.
Marriage, being originated by God (Gen. 2:18-24) cannot be broken by man (Romans 7:2-3). It is a divine creation and it symbolizes the union that exists between Christ and His Church (Eph. 5:31-32).
This Holy relationship must be respected by man, and therefore, is not to be looked upon lightly. Being of divine origin and being a Holy relationship, it is therefore, regulated by the laws of God.
A scriptural marriage, is one which conforms to God's laws governing marriage. Conversely, an unscriptural marriage,(homosexual or divorced persons) is one which does not conform to His laws.
Man can no more stipulate the conditions of marriage, than he can the conditions of becoming a Christian. God has set forth those conditions that make marriage right; therefore, man is forbidden to alter them.
What constitutes a sinful relationship in marriage?
Jesus taught in Luke 16:18...
"Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman, commits adultery and the man who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery."
Divorce and remarriage is a violation of God's law on marriage and constitutes an adulterous relationship. Individuals who continue in this relationship are living in sin.
Notice when the adultery kicks in...AFTER they are remarried. How can they be married in the sight of God if Jesus said their sexual relationship AFTER their wedding is adultery?
God saw them divorce their spouse and then come up to the altar again to make new vows to another person and then go on a honeymoon and commit adultery. If they are committing adultery on their honeymoon, how can they be married? I guarantee you, if you are committing adultery on your honeymoon you were not joined as a husband and wife at the altar.
A divorce does not free you and new vows do not join you, if you are still committing adultery after you have done all that.
Satan wants to take advantage of people’s lack of knowledge of God’s Word. Does anyone read the Bible these days?
What is legal in man’s eyes is not always legal in God’s eyes. Our Responsibility is to teach the Truth of God's Word.
May God Wake Us All Up!
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Well said Erin. No one can abuse God's grace by covering his sin. Yes, God is saving His chosen ones to enter His Kingdom, but He always confronts them with their sin to repent first and then saves them.

Sandi Patty sinned and while she is living in her adulterous relationship, she remains in sin until she repents and returns to her real and only husband before God. She claims she enters her prayer chambers, she isnt hearing God. How can she be seeking God's will when she doesn't obey what is clear in scripture, God hates divorce.

The only way you can divorce by God's will if your spouse committed adultery or he/she wants to leave you, other than that God considers you an adulterous peron. God can certainly forgive and restore, but never your unwillingness to repent His Way not yours!

All we can do is pray for Sandi to truly repent and return to her husband, but until then you can only consider her as a heathen.

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Jan 5, 2011
 
Would the last person out of Anderson please turn out the lights?
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The Church of God Anderson,IN & Anderson University are full of Homosexuals,Lesbians,Fornicato rs,Thieves,Drunkards,Druggies, Liars,Unsaved Professors & children out of wedlock (bastard children)that the Church & University is a joke. It sickens me just, give the Church of God Anderson IN money and you will be an Saint.I used to attend Sandi Patti's church and seen these so called confessions all the time. Anderson is a corrupt sinful political city.
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Sandi Patti and Don Pesilis are living in SIN.They are Fornicators and teaching their children to be SINNERS also.
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Someone just caught this and sent it to me in disbelief. Oh my goodness! Nothing wrong with reading and commenting, but so much of what has been written is taking a lot of your mental energy to dissect with such venom--precious time away from the good you can do. Don't you have lives, yourselves, rather than living Sandy's? There's work to do. Beauty to enjoy. Family and loved ones of your own to cherish and bless. And time for prayers of gratefulness to God for all of your blessings.
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Erin wrote:
Do people even know what is happening in the churches today? How dare any of us protect adulterers who are living in remarriage adultery--is anyone praying for them to get out of their remarriage adultery?
I have read thousands of stories like Sandi Patty’s and the story below is from a woman in Washington State.
"My husband was a church elder and business leader. We have 12 children together. Amazingly, I discovered how many adulterers were in our church as a result of his betrayal of me and our children. He gave communion, counsel and prayer during his 4 year affair with his secretary.
My husband has now married this woman and the people who profess Christ are the LOUDEST voices that cheer them on. My husband divorced me to marry this promiscuous woman and the assistant pastor has also done the same.
Both men divorced their wives of 20 and 35 years in the fall of 2008 and remarried their other women in the spring and early summer of 2009. The senior pastor even stood as best man for the assistant pastor in his European wedding!"
Didn’t Sandi Patty, Amy Grant, Wayne Watson, Jaci Velasquez, etc., etc., etc., do the same thing? This is what’s happening in our churches people. Wake up!
Over and over the world is appalled by people who have dishonored their marriage covenant. But not in the church, they are not appalled--they are the greatest defenders of such actions. Remember, we are told you can’t judge!
http://www.cadz.net/tony.html
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