California Proposition 19: the Mariju...

California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 7, 2010

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Spike

La Puente, CA

#11405 Aug 9, 2012
It's only adds up to, a dull tool play off.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#11406 Aug 9, 2012
Bull Durham wrote:
Marijuana has been shown to cure some cancers and inhibit growth in others, actually marijuana (THC) can cure many many ailments but big pharmaceutical companies don't want us to know that so they lobby our lawmakers and reap the rewards from their side effect laden, man made drugs.
So are you in favor of Pharmacy's dispensing the THC in safe non smoking pill form? And to only those that have a real medical need.?
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#11407 Aug 9, 2012
Ender-s Game wrote:
I don't smoke the stuff, but I know it's everywhere. Although I would say, yes, to legalize it in order to place some sanitary restrictions on the plant, I would also add taxes, like cigarettes, to the distribution of it. Cigarettes and marijuana users should then be placed on a higher risk health insurance category and pay a premium from their own pocket, since they smoke on their own accord. problem fixed. But this will never fly in politics because you have to bribe politicians to show up to work and bribe them again to do their job. Sad times....
Maybe They'll cut the school budget to cover for some other state expenses. That always seem to work.
I agree, however, for those that smoke Cigarettes, they have to buy it at the stores, nobody on the street is selling it. For pot, it will always be cheaper to buy it on the streets then retail. And it grows everywhere, easy to process.
Herbs4Life

Corona, CA

#11408 Aug 9, 2012
I come to realization that this thread will go on forever. Hopeful that herbs will too for its gift that it gives to us is truly amazing. Just let it go. If you do it, do it, if not let it go. People are way to caught up on this topic, just move on.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#11409 Aug 9, 2012
Herbs4Life wrote:
I come to realization that this thread will go on forever. Hopeful that herbs will too for its gift that it gives to us is truly amazing. Just let it go. If you do it, do it, if not let it go. People are way to caught up on this topic, just move on.
Not all Herbs are good for you.
PhD bud inhaler

United States

#11410 Aug 9, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Not all Herbs are good for you.
Yes. My neighbor Herb Rankinstien, the crooked bast*rd.
Spike

La Puente, CA

#11411 Aug 9, 2012
A phd in urineology that one will go with pipes!

“Smokin”

Since: May 12

Strawberry Fields of Dreams

#11412 Aug 9, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>So are you in favor of Pharmacy's dispensing the THC in safe non smoking pill form? And to only those that have a real medical need.?
Sure, I have no problem with that if it is done right. Would it be wrong for me to expect my government to allow me to grow my own herb and take care of myself? I think not since there is documented evidence of that going back 10,000 years.

They have it in pill form already but it is hard to get the needed dosage right or at least that is what I have read. Smoking it may very well not be the best way to introduce the THC into the bloodstream because burning leaf matter does contain carcinogens but recent research notes that certain cancer fighting canibinoids found in marijuana can stop that in its tracks.

Cancer runs in my family and my sister and I are all thats left. She is dealing with cancer right now and I have never been diagnosed with any form of it. I have smoked marijuana since 1969, I am now 62 years old and no longer abuse it as I did in my younger years. I am a responsible citizen and well respected in my community. I guess I am like Montel Williams and will smoke it till the day I die because it helps my medical condition. Its my God given right as an inhabitant of this planet to use any herb I choose.

Now I will ask you a question. Do you know why marijuana is illegal?

“Smokin”

Since: May 12

Strawberry Fields of Dreams

#11413 Aug 9, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I agree, however, for those that smoke Cigarettes, they have to buy it at the stores, nobody on the street is selling it. For pot, it will always be cheaper to buy it on the streets then retail. And it grows everywhere, easy to process.
I have bought black market cigarettes before and off the street because they were cheaper. A pack now costs $11 in New York and you hear of smuggglers bringing in cheaper ones all the time thats why each state has a tax stamp on it.

They will never control marijuana unless the price is low enough that a fast buck can't be made. The best part would be that there won't be any coming across the Mexican border if the prices are low.

I doubt that it will ever be done right so there will always be someone wanting to make easy money, its the same here where I live because alcohol is not allowed so bootleggers thrive.
Spike

La Puente, CA

#11414 Aug 9, 2012
NO DRAMA, is need here.

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#11415 Aug 9, 2012
Here in the emerald triangle we attract people from all over the world to grow & sell weed on the black market. These are people who have no respect for law. They teach the next generation that crime pays & that if they are caught breaking the law they will receive a slap on the wrist that is not worth finding honest work.

People think that there is gobs of cash in the homes here because many of the growers keep large sums of $$ laying around which makes a tempting target for would be thieves.

Everyday I am approached by a young able man or woman in hippie clothes asking for a handout. They must be on their first crop and need to beg until harvest.

Cant wait til it is federally legal. We can go through our economic slump until the welfare dries up & then maybe attract some legitimate industry with hardworking families to go along with it after the sluggards leave or die off.
Spike

La Puente, CA

#11416 Aug 9, 2012
Another LieBO?

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#11418 Aug 10, 2012
Bull Durham wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, I have no problem with that if it is done right. Would it be wrong for me to expect my government to allow me to grow my own herb and take care of myself? I think not since there is documented evidence of that going back 10,000 years.
They have it in pill form already but it is hard to get the needed dosage right or at least that is what I have read. Smoking it may very well not be the best way to introduce the THC into the bloodstream because burning leaf matter does contain carcinogens but recent research notes that certain cancer fighting canibinoids found in marijuana can stop that in its tracks.
Cancer runs in my family and my sister and I are all thats left. She is dealing with cancer right now and I have never been diagnosed with any form of it. I have smoked marijuana since 1969, I am now 62 years old and no longer abuse it as I did in my younger years. I am a responsible citizen and well respected in my community. I guess I am like Montel Williams and will smoke it till the day I die because it helps my medical condition. Its my God given right as an inhabitant of this planet to use any herb I choose.
Now I will ask you a question. Do you know why marijuana is illegal?
yeah. it's because it makes those who smoke it illogical, and prone to disobeying the law.

you only have to read some of the responses pushed by these drug addicts on this thread to realize that.

you want more confirmation about how drugs make people stupid?

look at what pelosi said... quote, "approve the law, we can read the terms later."

or how about obama.. quote, "you didn't make the money, WE made it for you."

not to be one sided... bush said that nafta and cafta would bring money and jobs to america....did it?

let's not forget that idiot, barney frank.. quote, "why not give the illegals mortgages, it's only a matter of time before they become citizens."

ross perot had it all right.. "the sucking sound" DID happen.

it is still happening. and I believe it is because of all the cocaine using, marijuana smoking, brain dead, stupid politicians on capitol hill can't understand that the so called "free trade agreements" are not working. duh.

outsource jobs when we have 10+ percent unemployment? brain dead anyone?

“Taste great in milk!”

Since: Aug 08

.

#11419 Aug 10, 2012
Tastes great!....and leaves Your breath minty-fresh!
Spike

Covina, CA

#11420 Aug 10, 2012
Another punking fest on this topic.

“Smokin”

Since: May 12

Strawberry Fields of Dreams

#11421 Aug 10, 2012
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
yeah. it's because it makes those who smoke it illogical, and prone to disobeying the law.
you only have to read some of the responses pushed by these drug addicts on this thread to realize that.
you want more confirmation about how drugs make people stupid?
look at what pelosi said... quote, "approve the law, we can read the terms later."
or how about obama.. quote, "you didn't make the money, WE made it for you."
not to be one sided... bush said that nafta and cafta would bring money and jobs to america....did it?
let's not forget that idiot, barney frank.. quote, "why not give the illegals mortgages, it's only a matter of time before they become citizens."
ross perot had it all right.. "the sucking sound" DID happen.
it is still happening. and I believe it is because of all the cocaine using, marijuana smoking, brain dead, stupid politicians on capitol hill can't understand that the so called "free trade agreements" are not working. duh.
outsource jobs when we have 10+ percent unemployment? brain dead anyone?
The problem with what you say is that you don't post any facts to back up your opinions which you have been spoon fed. I can give you facts about marijuana all day long and I don't make a claim unless I post a source for rational thinkers to at least look at.

Top researchers have said that marijuana (THC) is "the Holy Grail of medicine, a cancer cure."

"Dr. Nagarkatti and his team of researchers were one of the first labs to prove a cannabinoid key can seek out a cancerous cell in the immune system, unlock the receptor, and direct the cancer cell to self-destruct."

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/july-de...

This info is from a PBS documentary. Where did your info come from?

The illegality aspect of marijuana started back in the 30's when Utah needed to stop the Mexican migrant farm workers form coming and taking jobs and it worked for them. Then later on Nixon needed a way to stop the peace movement because it was exposing the truth about the Viet Nam war and making him and the war mongers look bad. Pot was fully criminalized so he could kick the hippies asses and send them to jail. Also the large corporations (textile, pharmaceuticals) have spent a fortune lobbying the law makers to keep it illegal so they can make money from known dangerous products.

You speak as if pot smokers are illogical and stupid but it is you that fits that bill because you have fallen for lies and have no problem passing them around as truth. Can you not see how this makes you look to a rational, logical, and intelligent pot smoker?

Hey, "the sucking sound" that DID happen may have been your logical thought process leaving your head as you accepted lies about marijuana from your government.
Bruno24

Belgium

#11422 Aug 10, 2012
Yes cannabis can help to cure cancer, if it can not cure it directly. This is the original Spanish paper:

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948

But that incredible discovery has been made about 30 years ago in the USA, and hidden purposefully by George Bush senior, and since then. I did not believe this when I read Jack Herer on this, until the Spanish confirmed that tremendous discovery. It is an immense scandal which illustrates the non sense of mixing health and politics. Look here:

http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v01/n572/a11.ht...

Cannabis is not just good to alleviate the effect of chemo and radio therapies. It is just much better and more efficacious than those terrible technics. It saves people.

For the sick people, we can say that sobriety kills more than cannabis. If the prohibitionists were really believing in their logic, and did get the genuine facts, they should make sobriety illegal and cannabis obligatory!(Of course their logic is dubious).

"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are&#65279; the souls of those who live under tyranny." Thomas Jefferson
Bruno24

Belgium

#11423 Aug 10, 2012
You can take a look at this also, and all around, to see that it can be effective on babies:



One case is not a statistics of course, but the point is that the statistics and the biochemistry predicted and confirms this.

All people having cancer should suit the government for hiding those facts, and for not taking the right measure: to legalize fully and completely marijuana, and then all drugs.

Prohibition has killed and injured more people than any drug has ever done, even alcohol.
CBvacaville

Vacaville, CA

#11424 Aug 10, 2012
Hey Mike Phelps you just got busted hitting a bong, what will you do next......

Oh, go on to win the most olympic medals, ever.

There goes the argument of it making you sit on a couch , space out and eat oreos.
Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#11425 Aug 10, 2012
Bruno24 wrote:
Yes cannabis can help to cure cancer, if it can not cure it directly. This is the original Spanish paper:
http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948
But that incredible discovery has been made about 30 years ago in the USA, and hidden purposefully by George Bush senior, and since then. I did not believe this when I read Jack Herer on this, until the Spanish confirmed that tremendous discovery. It is an immense scandal which illustrates the non sense of mixing health and politics. Look here:
http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v01/n572/a11.ht...
Cannabis is not just good to alleviate the effect of chemo and radio therapies. It is just much better and more efficacious than those terrible technics. It saves people.
For the sick people, we can say that sobriety kills more than cannabis. If the prohibitionists were really believing in their logic, and did get the genuine facts, they should make sobriety illegal and cannabis obligatory!(Of course their logic is dubious).
"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are&#65279; the souls of those who live under tyranny." Thomas Jefferson
Bruno24.

Yes. You are right. Zonked out potheads are in denial. They will go to any length to rationalize their addiction to mind rotting pot. Perhaps it is too late for them. The concern decent hard working "mentally alert" tobacco smokers have is the corrosive effect these druggies may be having on the children. This concern goes far beyond Long Beach, where revolutionary Council has a policy of "accommodating" "ill" potheads.

Source: http://tinyurl.com/8vwq83t

Ronald

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