Native American expo vs. Vietnam wall

Native American expo vs. Vietnam wall

There are 58 comments on the KFOR story from Aug 5, 2010, titled Native American expo vs. Vietnam wall. In it, KFOR reports that:

Organizers of the long-time American Indian Exposition in Anadarko have been preparing for months for the arrival of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial traveling wall, known as The Moving Wall.

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Jay

Oklahoma City, OK

#1 Aug 5, 2010
Well, that is crap! People planning for this, excited, etc...
They should have put the wall up. It's kind of like telling your child were going to the fair or swimming and at the last minute, oh, no were not going.
old-timer

United States

#2 Aug 5, 2010
How dissapointing, particularly since Indian people have the highest per capita rate of service in the armed forces of the United States compared to any other identifiable group. Do these "officials" of the wall simply wish to dishonor native vets, or have they forgotten the debt that America owes them? There is no apparent reason that they could not work with the people so that they could honor our veterans instead of this unacceptable result.x
Betty McKenzie Tsatoke

Oklahoma City, OK

#3 Aug 5, 2010
The American Indian Exposition was started as a place for local tribes to show their crafts, garden vegetables, canning products, and farm animals, in other words their own Fair. Our Uncle Parker McKenzie and a few others watched it grow to include the county and all locals not just Indian people. The largest attendance at the Fair was when Roy Rogers and Dale Evans came, the cars were lined up to Chickasha. Many famous people have attended the Fair from athletes, politicians, movie and television, country music and an American astronaut as Honored Guests and were always grateful for their particpation. The Fair isn't anything grand, families put up elaborate tents and tipis and not so fancy tents but they come each year. It is not just a slap in the face to the Community but to the Viet Nam Veteran.
America love it or give it back...
Seminole_ndn2010

United States

#4 Aug 5, 2010
This is unbelievable,I myself am Seminole indian and served 3 tours in Vietnam in the marines I am now a disabled vet and I also stood guard on the original wall in Washington,along with 8 other native americans from Oklahoma,when it was dedicated,this is only a disrespectful way to show honor to the native american warriors in Oklahoma,I believe a few will agree with me, thank you.
Sherry W

United States

#5 Aug 5, 2010
Knowing how our government operates I would suspect that the instruction manual was probably not very clear to begin with. I agree that this was a rude way to handle the situation. Thankfully the Exposition will get their money back. However, this isn't the first time Native people got a raw deal and I strongly suspect it won't be the last.
Angela C

United States

#6 Aug 5, 2010
I woke up this morning, got my kids ready and made it a point to get to the fairgrounds early to join my father who is a Kiowa warrior and Vietnam Veteran and honor him for his service and to pay our respects to those who made the ultimate sacrafice for our freedom. Little did I know I would have to teach my children a different lesson. They are 7 and 10 and I had to explain to them why the wall wasn't there. But my father and other Native Veterans who did come to participate in this ceremony continued to honor their brothers and did so in a humble and respectful way and for that I am proud of how they handled this unfortunate incident. We do not need a wall to show our respect, we pray for them every day, we sing our songs to honor them and we carry it in our hearts our respect for them and our other veterans everywhere we go.
Keida

Frisco, TX

#7 Aug 5, 2010
One thing about Native peoples: we are very respectful of our warriors, aka veterans both past and present. Many tribes have warrior societies and every dance begins with a flag song and a warriors song. We are not disrespectful of these things. Why couldn't this woman work with our Expo board? It was in no danger of being harmed or vandalized. Instead of believing in stereotypes about us, she shouldve worked with us and just maybe she'd have seen the heart of our people.
PWC

Lakeside, CA

#8 Aug 5, 2010
So sad and disappointed for our Veterans and their families and our Community who diligently worked to plan this special occasion, and especially during the Indian Expo, and to those that came to participate and to honor their loved ones...and to have it not happen is a travesty. Our Native American people have always played a major role in defending and supporting our Country and to be able to appreciate the Freedom we sometimes take for granted. I hope these people organized with the Wall Exhibit realize what they have done to disrespect our Veterans/Warriors. But you know, we have alway taken it upon ourselves to recognize greatness in the service of our Country thru our Songs, Dance, Ceremonies, Veterans Organizations, and that will not change. I hope the Wall Exhibit Organization can do the same and learn a little from our Native American People, and I'm sure if they did they would have received a Blessing from today's planned Ceremony....

Since: Jul 10

Hominy, OK

#9 Aug 6, 2010
They probably found out about Pastor Daniels, who was brutally murdered 1/2 block from the police station and 2 blocks from the sheriff's office in anadarko,
And still UNSOLVED!!!
Bewildered

Anadarko, OK

#10 Aug 6, 2010
Sherry W wrote:
Knowing how our government operates I would suspect that the instruction manual was probably not very clear to begin with. I agree that this was a rude way to handle the situation. Thankfully the Exposition will get their money back. However, this isn't the first time Native people got a raw deal and I strongly suspect it won't be the last.
..only it's not a Government exhibition.

That said, I agree with you 100% that to leave in the dead of night without a word was just disrespectful and cowardly. Then they wouldn't answer their phones during the day.. and finally on Channel 4 last night 'a refund check was on its' way'- even though the company are based in the UP of Michigan, so they couldn't possibly have got home, could they?

I heard that the problem was that there wasn't a 'respectful distance' between the site of the wall and where people were camping nearby, and that was because the City had changed the plans for the site and moved things around.

To use a military acronym....'SNAFU'
longtermoklahoma n

Oklahoma City, OK

#11 Aug 6, 2010
Vietnam Vets are some of the biggest whiners in history. Be glad you got away with your war crimes and came home unlike the dead millions.
noname

Canton, OK

#12 Aug 6, 2010
why are the wall caretakers really being such assholes ? did they go to the casino the night before ? "disappointed with the attention to detail that the wall requires to honor fallen soldiers "? What the hell is that ? As a viet-nam veteran and a half breed ,I would say the caretakers of the wall have dishonored the living and the dead . mabey they should pay more attention to the native americans heart to learn more about HONOR. THIS IS DISGRACEFUL and they should be made come back and display the wall for free since they evadently lack the decency to do the right thing on thier on. Again...thanks for ruining a long awaited trip...ASSHOLES
noname

Sharon, KS

#13 Aug 6, 2010
WAR CRIMES ? What the hell would you know ?
Breezy

United States

#14 Aug 6, 2010
Why do certain people think they won every war by themselves. Only they can be projected as a HERO, FAMILY, HAPPY. History as told today is a BIG LIE not to be believed. They do not want anyone else making money yet they are using the replica to make money off the dead.
Smiling Bean

United States

#15 Aug 6, 2010
So, the caretaker was disappointed with the attention to detail the wall requires to honor our fallen soldiers? How about we are all disappointed with the caretaker's attention to detail in failing to even make an attempt to work amicably with organizers who worked so hard to raise money from an impoverished people to bring that wall to the Expo? Shame on the wall caretaker. Highly disappointed and deeply saddened to hear of the way the traveling wall caretaker chose to mistreat the Indian people who have the highest per capita rate of service for a minority group in our armed services -- these are true Americans and should be honored and treated as such.
laokie

Los Angeles, CA

#16 Aug 6, 2010
What I don't understand is they say that the "base" wasn't up to standards. What base are they talking about because I went and saw the wall when it was here in LA and it sat directly on the ground and they provided the wooden planks that made up the walkway in front of the wall. There was no "base" so to speak, it was the gound! So what kind of excuse is that and you would think that somebody would travel a day ahead of time to check out the area and make sure things are up to their standards. Why have the trucks containing the wall there and then all of a sudden they are gone! With nobody giving any explanations to anybody!! Not only is that disrespectful but how does that make your organization look?! AND there was a whole exhibit of different things, stands with food and drinks for sale, just a few feet away!! Probably closer than those tents!!
jacs

Oklahoma City, OK

#17 Aug 6, 2010
Its a shame that someone like that couldn't put her own scary fears aside so that Native Americans could honor there elders in the Indian Capital of the Nation. IF it wasn't for Native Americans speaking their native tongue to do secret operations in the Vietnam war we may still be there. Such disrespect disgust me and I hope that lady loses her job and catches the heat until she breaks.
Native Vet

Oklahoma City, OK

#18 Aug 6, 2010
I have lived in the area all of my life and always try to attend the Expo. I was really excited to get to see the replica of the wall since I am not able to go to D.C. I think it is very shameful on the part of the wall caretakers and very disrespectful the way they departed from the Expo grounds without so much as a word, knowing that there were going to be ceremonies held the next morning. If there were issues with the set up of the platform why did they not address these to the Expo organizers and see if they could reach a quick solution as to how to fix that problem, and maybe the instructions on the requirements for the foundation or platform should be more specific. I am not certain of how much notice was given to the Expo organizers that the wall would definitely be stopping at the Expo but if there was plenty of time I do not see why a concrete foundation could not have been poured to offer a more sturdy platform. With the good heart of the people of the city of Anadarko and surrounding towns I'm sure donations could have been given or perhaps even companies to help donate supplies and labor. All in all it is a shame that we do not get to see the wall after so much thought, and hard work have gone into trying to bring a piece of history to the expo to share with all the people....Americas people. Gone but not Forgotten.
Francine Worthington

Woodward, OK

#19 Aug 6, 2010
I am currently a member of Oklahoma Rolling Thunder Chapter 3 a POW MIA Advocacy group out of Coweta, Oklahoma. I am a member of the Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma. Our Rolling Thunder Group was coming to Anadarko Sunday, to pay tribute to our Veterans. While living out of Oklahoma, in Alexandria, VA., and working in D. C., I fulfilled my membership obligations by working with Virginia Rolling Thunder groups, One of our volunteer tasks was to clean the real Viet Nam Veteran Wall once a month. It was an honor task, which any American would be proud to do. Another part of Rolling Thunder is to participate in the Moving Wall, activities, stand guard, escort., etc. If you have never done this yourself, you need to and will understand the unique process of getting the area ready for the Wall set up. Go to the Moving Wall website and look at the critical wall construction set up and see for yourself if all the measures were taken for the WALL set up, for everyone's enjoyment, because that is what is it for, everyone. That Wallwas built by private citizens, they want to take care of their replica. I am a Native American and travel the entire U. S., for our Native Veterans, All Veterans and all POW/MIA Veterans.
Our Rolling Thunder Chapter is going to assist in a wonderful homecoming memorial for a MIA Viet Nam Veteran, who body was recently found and is being repatriated back to Oklahoma. Army CW Donald Wann.
We need to think of the ideal and symbol of our patriot spirit and honoring Veterans and what the Wall stands for, not the "structure". The Wall (replica) may not be here and for whatever reason was taken away, "without notice", it is done.
It is your obligation to remember those Veterans, who are our most valiant heros, you don't need a wall replica to do this. Our Veterans names may be on a "replica" of the real Wall in D. C., driving down an interstate right now, again, it is done, over.
Please remember our Veterans memories, their faces, dreams, love, are etched in our hearts, minds and will be forever, and will be long after that replica, falls apart.

“-Be Prepared-”

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#20 Aug 6, 2010
longtermoklahoman wrote:
Vietnam Vets are some of the biggest whiners in history. Be glad you got away with your war crimes and came home unlike the dead millions.
this comment was simply ignorant and uncalled for - you Sir or Madam are a total arsehole and are not fit to address any man who is a Veteran of that War. I think you are very lucky indeed that this forum allows for anonymous posting. Get a clue.

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