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May 8, 2008

10-Year-Old Gives Birth After Alleged Rape by Illegal

ST. ANTHONY, Idaho - A suspected illegal immigrant has been charged with raping a 10-year-old girl who later gave birth in eastern Idaho.

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When are we going to stand up as LEGAL AMERICANS and say to OUR GOVERNMENT, FIX THIS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM!!!

This poor child is not ready to raise a child, SHE IS A CHILD!!! This guy if truly is the one needs to be taken care of in a swift justice, just like the Iraq's did with Hussein.

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When are we going to stand up as LEGAL AMERICANS and say to OUR GOVERNMENT, FIX THIS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM!!!
This poor child is not ready to raise a child, SHE IS A CHILD!!! This guy if truly is the one needs to be taken care of in a swift justice, just like the Iraq's did with Hussein.
HANG EM' HIGH!!! Just like the movie!!! It sickens me, we already have enough rapists in the U.S., like we need one more added!!!
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Something to think about. If 10,000 mexicans cross the border illegally, they are looking for a better life but if 10,000 mexicans dressed in the same uniform cross the border it's an invasion and our govt would react. I say we need to use the southern border of the US as training for our military. Why do we have military bases in NC,GA,IL,etc. when the real threat to our country comes from mexico? What better place do we have to train for wars than in AZ,NM,southern CA, and western TX?
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BORATHA wrote:
Something to think about. If 10,000 mexicans cross the border illegally, they are looking for a better life but if 10,000 mexicans dressed in the same uniform cross the border it's an invasion and our govt would react. I say we need to use the southern border of the US as training for our military. Why do we have military bases in NC,GA,IL,etc. when the real threat to our country comes from mexico? What better place do we have to train for wars than in AZ,NM,southern CA, and western TX?
i hope they get you first. bang bang you die

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<quoted text>i hope they get you first. bang bang you die
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Wow… sounds like the immigrants are really taking in the teachings of the LDS church.
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this is not about who is legal this should be about the fact a crime was commited and it a crime againest a child at that do justice and find him gulity and then do what is called for to make him pay
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any one can commit rape. illegal or not, from Mexico, or Russisa. this guys has to pay for what he has done. he needs to get life in prison.

i just hope this doesn't target the rest of illegal immigrants who are here. they will get looked at as rapeist or child molsters. leave the whole illegal mexican crap out of this crime.!!!
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nenaS wrote:
any one can commit rape. illegal or not, from Mexico, or Russisa. this guys has to pay for what he has done. he needs to get life in prison.
i just hope this doesn't target the rest of illegal immigrants who are here. they will get looked at as rapeist or child molsters. leave the whole illegal mexican crap out of this crime.!!!
They are looked at for what they are and thats illegals. In their culture, its alright to treat women and girls 8-80 however they want. Everyone can commit crimes but these people commited one in order to be here. I wish local law enforcement could do something about it
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I guess it boils down to this question. Would the young girl have been raped IF the illegal person was not allowed to be in the United States?? Had he been stopped at the border, the little girl wouldn't have been raped by him. You know the old saying "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". We need to take back OUR country before we (US Citizens) have to learn a second or third language just to shop at Home Depot or Walmart or order a burger at McDonalds!!
I can't remember the exact figures but it cost money to have everything printed in 2 languages and that cost is passed on to the customer. So, you and I are paying more for products because people come into this country and don't try to learn English. How sad is that...
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I guess it boils down to this question. Would the young girl have been raped IF the illegal person was not allowed to be in the United States?? Had he been stopped at the border, the little girl wouldn't have been raped by him. You know the old saying "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". We need to take back OUR country before we (US Citizens) have to learn a second or third language just to shop at Home Depot or Walmart or order a burger at McDonalds!!
I can't remember the exact figures but it cost money to have everything printed in 2 languages and that cost is passed on to the customer. So, you and I are paying more for products because people come into this country and don't try to learn English. How sad is that...
The man who committed this crime needs to be put out of his misery. Illegal or not. You can't tell me this wouldn't have happened if there weren't any illegals in this country. There are many sick people in this nation. What is wrong with learning a second language, it's something you are not willing to try, but you have no problem demanding it from other people. I am born and raised in Idaho, my parents are from Texas born and raised. But if you saw me (Dark skin and Black hair) in Wal-Mart, would you think, there goes a fellow American or would you think, get out of my country? Maybe it's you that has a problem. You may say OUR country, but do you really have any idea what OUR country is? We Latinos are the largest minority in the US, get used to it, we aren't going anywhere. Maybe it's time YOU do some adjusting to better fit in, instead of expecting people to adjust to you. Just a thought!
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dantafter wrote:
I guess it boils down to this question. Would the young girl have been raped IF the illegal person was not allowed to be in the United States?? Had he been stopped at the border, the little girl wouldn't have been raped by him. You know the old saying "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". We need to take back OUR country before we (US Citizens) have to learn a second or third language just to shop at Home Depot or Walmart or order a burger at McDonalds!!
I can't remember the exact figures but it cost money to have everything printed in 2 languages and that cost is passed on to the customer. So, you and I are paying more for products because people come into this country and don't try to learn English. How sad is that...
As far as having a second language printed on products, THINK!-for just a second!!!!!!!!!! Just maybe, and I mean just maybe, these products are sold in other countries too. Maybe consumers in other countries are thinking the same thing you are--about the English label.
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Actually, both pro and anti illegal immigration proponents on this thread are missing the clear point. Regardless the race or national origin of the perpetrator, criminals are criminals and should be punished to the full extent of the law (especially for a heinous crime such as this).

However, this case highlights a broader concern. Part of the inherently problematic nature of illegal immigration is that criminal justice systems must be able to keep track of citizens who have proclivities to commit crimes. If a nation has porous borders, aside from the plethora of other problems, there is no accountability for the persons crossing that border in violation of law. In addition, it is impossible to track criminal records across years for individuals we do not know are here. There too many issues regarding illegally entering the country to be addressed here, but this is the obvious lesson of the Utah case.

"Latino," it is better to argue your case a little more subtly, or you just make people mad.:-) At the same time, I realize that you must experience discrimination by people who make assumptions about your immigration status, and that has to be maddening. But I used to live out west too (in Colorado), and the polls in the area consistently indicated that long term latino citizens are just as indignant about illegal immigration as non-latinos are!

I think that the issue about language is multi-faceted, AND I am continually amazed that latino activists do not push for full english assimilation for their kids. Repeated studies show that English is still the language of international commerce, and refusing to become proficient (I'm not talking about those that have just arrived and are in process of learning) simply dooms an entire group of people to marginalized social status. These "dual language education" policies out there are actually counterproductive and I wonder about the true motives of these liberal elites. Is it, perhaps, that they really want a permanent underclass to serve their economic needs? Something to think about.

Sorry for the length of this baby. I didn't mean to engage in protracted debate....just provide a voice of reason.

PS--Your argument about packaging for international trade works only to a point. If we are talking about inter-North American trade, then French would also be printed prominently on all packaging.
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When are we going to stop racism? To say all illegal immigrants are plotting to commit crimes as horrid as this is ridicules and if we all are planning to think this way then perhaps we should all leave this country-Because guess what people we all would not be here in America if our ancestors had not murdered the Native Americans and Mexicans that had truly owned it before our ancestors decided to come here from across seas to make a better life for themselves too! Wake up and stop labeling people as all the same –Because we are not. Hey, what about the Canada boarder? Why are people ignoring that boarder? I am sure we have some criminal coming from this area too.
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2nd - Yes, this man should get punished for this horrid act, just like any other sick-o. Better yet why are we not doing something about child predators that are rampant –(Example the Shasta Groney(I believe that’s how you spell the last name). Why do we continue to allow these sexual predators out and do such little time?
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Here's the latest on the case:

http://www.kpvi.com/Global/story.asp...

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Disgusting! I would love to have the two of them on a firing line. How could you not be aware your 10 year old was growing an abnormally large abdomen???? STUPID IDIOTS!!! They need to be executed, for real!! Ruined the life of the 10 year old, and the baby I pray gets in a caring, nurturing adopted home. This is ridiculous. Sick bastards.(pardon the b word)
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Jun 25, 2008
 
the 10 year girl mom and dad need kick the ass of the lllegal man

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Jun 25, 2008
 
The mom was with the "illegal" man (as in a relationship?), they all lived together right?
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When are we going to stop racism? To say all illegal immigrants are plotting to commit crimes as horrid as this is ridicules and if we all are planning to think this way then perhaps we should all leave this country-Because guess what people we all would not be here in America if our ancestors had not murdered the Native Americans and Mexicans that had truly owned it before our ancestors decided to come here from across seas to make a better life for themselves too! Wake up and stop labeling people as all the same –Because we are not. Hey, what about the Canada boarder? Why are people ignoring that boarder? I am sure we have some criminal coming from this area too.
Shut up you're just talking to hear your head rattle. I bet your illegal because surely nobody in their right mind would stick up for them if they weren't.
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