Bus driver accused of braking hard to...

Bus driver accused of braking hard to topple pupil

There are 39 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Nov 21, 2008, titled Bus driver accused of braking hard to topple pupil. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

A school bus driver will be charged with endangering a 10-year-old boy for intentionally braking suddenly so the boy would fall down, police said.

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OGI Conservative Elitist

El Paso, TX

#24 Nov 22, 2008
ZenBirdist wrote:
When I was school age, we were taught that every adult in life was to be respected; teachers, bus-drivers, parents of friends, all fell under the strict rule "respect your elders". If my folks had gotten word that I was being a snotty, disrepectful little brat to the bus-driver, there would have been h-e-l-l to pay. That said, I had to laugh at the swift consequence the bus driver delivered. I believe in immediate, natural consequences for bad behavior, and I don't believe in empty threats. I think the bus driver has the same line of thinking!
I'd bet the kid is more likely to remain in his seat from now on, unless his parents are claiming him to be picked on by the big bad busdriver and nurturing an attitude of victimhood in the young'un.
Was it the best thing to do? Probably not, but the driver didn't seem to have much support (especially if the so-called monitor was not intervening). It wasn't the worst thing he could do, considering he was in charge of driving the bus AND keeping the kids in their seats.
Well said and same thing here. The difference between kids now and kids then are not the kids. Kids will always be kids. The difference is the consequences. I am still convinced my mother was the antichrist because there has never been a mother who was as strict as mine. I was bad at times and got my butt worn out more times than I deserved. They call it child abuse now, back then it was raising your children. When I was in the 9th grade my friend and I were acting up in the hallway. Mr. Thomas the biology teacher and ex-marine grabbed us both by the scruff of our shirts and slammed our heads together. I still see stars to this day (lol) but I was more afraid of my mother finding out I was acting up then reporting the teacher for assault. That would never happen today, but look how I turned out. I am OGI the conservative elitist. HAHA
oxboro

Lakeville, MN

#25 Nov 22, 2008
Drivers eventually come to the end of their rope...there is no backing for drivers, only whining parents and unruly kids..
I have witnessed middle school kids getting on a bus and they act each time like its the first time they ever rode a bus..Breaking every rule, seeing how far they can push gthe driver..
When i took my training to drive i was told "do not threaten to kick a kid off the bus because yuo cant do it"..I tell you when i was kid you could get kicked off and for doing a lot less then they get by with now
Cindy Stainker

Saint Paul, MN

#26 Nov 22, 2008
tom tom wrote:
The kid needed it...
The boy should have been suspended from riding the bus, then his mother would have had to drive him to and from school. She probably would have gotten really tired of doing that and made her son behave himself.
Cindy Stainker

Saint Paul, MN

#27 Nov 22, 2008
oxboro wrote:
Drivers eventually come to the end of their rope...there is no backing for drivers, only whining parents and unruly kids..
I have witnessed middle school kids getting on a bus and they act each time like its the first time they ever rode a bus..Breaking every rule, seeing how far they can push gthe driver..
When i took my training to drive i was told "do not threaten to kick a kid off the bus because yuo cant do it"..I tell you when i was kid you could get kicked off and for doing a lot less then they get by with now
I don't know how old you are Oxboro, but my youngest son is now twenty three, when he was about eleven he cut his knee right across the kneecap and had to have stitches. Some kid on his school bus tried punching his knee, and when my son's brother tried to help him they both got kicked off the school bus for two weeks. The kid who tried to punch my son got nothing.

Letting the boy continue to ride the school bus when he is so disruptive makes no sense at all. His parents should have to be responsible for getting him to and from school until he can learn to behave himself.
Sid

Coppell, TX

#29 Nov 22, 2008
"Consequences"

God, how liberals hate 'em!
Aquinas

Coppell, TX

#30 Nov 22, 2008
Experience is a hard schoool, but fools will learn in no other.

“Jaywalking”

Since: Oct 08

Minneapolis, MN

#32 Nov 22, 2008
Say What wrote:
<quoted text> Why werent the parents doing their job?
My parents would have protected my rights and safety as follows:

(1) publicly apologize to the bus driver.
(2) clean the bus for one week (minimum).
(3) publicly apologize to the riders on the bus.
(4) extra chores.
(5) whatever else they could think of.

My parents did not tolerate misconduct in any way, shape, or form.
human too

Greenwood, NE

#33 Nov 22, 2008
"Jaywalking" and "ZenBirdist," you are both blessed to have the parents you do. Proper parenting is becoming a lost art, it seems. The fact that you learned to appreciate the lessons they taught you will pay dividends to your own children as well. If they likewise learn these lessons, they are much more likely to have happier, better-adjusted, and more rewarding lives. Kudos to you both.

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#34 Nov 22, 2008
realist wrote:
<quoted text>
Unfortunately, due to degenerate urban liberals, the past is being destroyed. You see, they believe they have a legal right to behave that way, with no concern for moral American values.
Just how would liberals, degenerate or not, destroy the Past? Isn't it too late for that, by definition?

I am much more concerned about the havoc degenerate urban conservatives have wrought upon our nation's Future -- compound interest on trillions of dollars of irresponsible debt passed on to our grandchildren and great-grandchildren. They seem to believe they have a legal right to behave that way, with no concern for American moral values -- of parsimony, economy, and accountability.

Since when are Bailouts from sea to shining sea the American Way?

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#35 Nov 22, 2008
Sid wrote:
"Consequences"
God, how liberals hate 'em!
Based upon the wailing and gnashing of teeth seen since the Election, I submit that conservatives don't appear particularly appreciative of Consequences, either!

Payback's a Female Dog!
OGI Conservative Elitist

El Paso, TX

#36 Nov 22, 2008
Madaman wrote:
<quoted text>
Based upon the wailing and gnashing of teeth seen since the Election, I submit that conservatives don't appear particularly appreciative of Consequences, either!
Payback's a Female Dog!
OFF TOPIC! Go to another subject post and we will be happy to slam you good.

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#37 Nov 22, 2008
OGI Conservative Elitist wrote:
<quoted text>
OFF TOPIC! Go to another subject post and we will be happy to slam you good.
Bring it On!

I agree that this topic has drifted from the actions of a bus driver, the role of the school administrators, and possible parenting scenarios to the endemic Battle of the Left vs Right. This is patently ludicrous, and I won't play along any more. Just a reflex, throwing those grenades back to their senders!

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#38 Nov 22, 2008
Tybalt wrote:
democrats are toads
If you kiss enough of them, you will find your Prince!
oxboro

Lakeville, MN

#40 Nov 23, 2008
Cindy Stainker wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know how old you are Oxboro, but my youngest son is now twenty three, when he was about eleven he cut his knee right across the kneecap and had to have stitches. Some kid on his school bus tried punching his knee, and when my son's brother tried to help him they both got kicked off the school bus for two weeks. The kid who tried to punch my son got nothing.
Letting the boy continue to ride the school bus when he is so disruptive makes no sense at all. His parents should have to be responsible for getting him to and from school until he can learn to behave himself.
I agree with you..Im in my 50's..i was grew up on a farm and was kicked off the bus for aweek when i was 11or 12 for being disruptive..My parents were not happy with me ..they drove me to school and i suffered the consequences

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#42 Dec 20, 2010
If the student is written up enough times by the driver, even after calling in the parents -- s/he WILL lose bus-riding privileges.

Riding is a privilege -- NOT a "Right."

(Interesting how my perspective changed -- from a non-bus-driver when this thread started, to a bus driver now for almost two years!)
Finepix

Pflugerville, TX

#43 Dec 20, 2010
I would drive those little jerks straight into the desert and show them where David Wood buried his many victims.

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#44 Dec 21, 2010
Finepix wrote:
I would drive those little jerks straight into the desert and show them where David Wood buried his many victims.
That is a long drive from Saint Paul!

Since: Jul 09

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#45 Dec 21, 2010
realist wrote:
<quoted text>Unfortunately, due to degenerate urban liberals, the past is being destroyed. You see, they believe they have a legal right to behave that way, with no concern for moral American values.
This has nothing to do with politics and I hate both sides equally.

Since: Jul 09

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#46 Dec 21, 2010
OGI Conservative Elitist wrote:
The solution was simple. Kick the kid off the bus for his behavior and inconvenience the idiot parents who failed to raise a child who respects adult authority. Problem solved for everyone except his parent. They are the root of the problem anyway.
I agree! That would be a good solution. However, the drop off point must be a safe one.

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