Churches ignore mental illness

Churches ignore mental illness

There are 11 comments on the Deseret News story from Jun 23, 2011, titled Churches ignore mental illness. In it, Deseret News reports that:

When people have mental illness they often turn to their church for help. But instead of getting help, a new study by Baylor University psychologists has found churches are more likely to overlook the need.

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Fort White, FL

#1 Jun 24, 2011
The church is far better then the mind drugging that the mental health industry does. The mental health industry has no medical model. No evidence based medicine. No test for chemical imbalance to which they admitted they lied to drug America (world) countries.

The mental health with no science is political and based on hearsay.

They are dangerous causing the social engineering to the society by mind drugs and psychotherapy using false memory..

Fort White, FL

#2 Jun 24, 2011
Violence, Deaths Murders and Suicides from mind drugs.

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Fort White, FL

#3 Jun 24, 2011

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Stop TeenScreen's Unscientific and Experimental "Mental Health Screening" of American School Children

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Fort White, FL

#4 Jun 24, 2011
Why your kid is drugged in school

How it works:

The State Department of Education gets monies from the Federal Government (Disability) under a program called "IDEA" for each child diagnosed with a disability. A disability could be ADD/ADHD, Bi-polar disorder, Depression or any of the other mental diagnoses.

Who profits: The State Department of Education, the mental health and counseling Industry, the Pharmaceutical company and the money that is kicked back by lobbyists for politicians special interest and of course the legal profession.

All this at the cost of your child's Health and welfare.

IDEA" Final Regulation (part 1 of 2)

300.7 Child with a disability.

(a) General.

(1) As used in this part, the term child with a disability means a child evaluated in accordance with §§300.530-300.536 as having mental retardation, a hearing impairment including deafness, a speech or language impairment, a visual impairment including blindness, serious emotional disturbance (hereafter referred to as emotional disturbance), an orthopedic impairment, autism, traumatic brain injury, an other health impairment, a specific learning disability, deaf-blindness, or multiple disabilities, and who, by reason thereof, needs special education and related services.
(i) The term means a condition exhibiting one or more of the following characteristics over a long period of time and to a marked degree that adversely affects a child's educational performance:
(A) An inability to learn that cannot be explained by intellectual, sensory, or health factors.
(B) An inability to build or maintain satisfactory interpersonal relationships with peers and teachers.
(C) Inappropriate types of behavior or feelings under normal circumstances.
(D) A general pervasive mood of unhappiness or depression.
(E) A tendency to develop physical symptoms or fears associated with personal or school problems.
(ii) The term includes schizophrenia. The term does not apply to children who are socially maladjusted, unless it is determined that they have an emotional disturbance.
9) Other health impairment means having limited strength, vitality or alertness, including a heightened alertness to environmental stimuli, that results in limited alertness with respect to the educational environment, that-
(i) Is due to chronic or acute health problems such as asthma, attention deficit disorder or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, diabetes, epilepsy, a heart condition, hemophilia, lead poisoning, leukemia, nephritis, rheumatic fever, and sickle cell anemia; and
(ii) Adversely affects a child's educational performance
§300.24 Related services.
(a) General. As used in this part, the term related services means transportation and such developmental, corrective, and other supportive services as are required to assist a child with a disability.
(9) Psychological services includes-
(i) Administering psychological and educational tests, and other assessment procedures;
(ii) Interpreting assessment results;
(iii) Obtaining, integrating, and interpreting information about child behavior and conditions relating to learning;
(iv) Consulting with other staff members in planning school programs to meet the special needs of children as indicated by psychological tests, interviews, and behavioral evaluations;
(v) Planning and managing a program of psychological services, including psychological counseling for children and parents; and
(vi) Assisting in developing positive behavioral intervention strategies.

Fort White, FL

#5 Jun 24, 2011
US Kids Represent Psychiatric Drug Goldmine
Column: Evelyn Pringle

Prescriptions for psychiatric drugs increased 50 percent with children in the US, and 73 percent among adults, from 1996 to 2006, according to a study in the May/June 2009 issue of the journal Health Affairs. Another study in the same issue of Health Affairs found spending for mental health care grew more than 30 percent over the same ten-year period, with almost all of the increase due to psychiatric drug costs.

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Urbana, OH

#6 Jul 1, 2011
The persons in trouble need to be able to tell about their problems even if help is limited.
It is so sad that there is such misunderstanding.
The misuse of drugs is a big problem.

High Springs, FL

#7 Jul 24, 2011
The Mental Health Industry is and has always been political. They have no science. They are a parasite in creating emotional response and mind drugging your child.

The Industry is the root cause of drug addiction in world countries for profits of the Pharmacutical Industry and to maintain a patient for their own greed.

The racket of the Mental health Industry (no science) is that they hang around school system for a program called IDEA (money) and diagnose children with "made to order" mental illnesses and drug the child into a state of insanity . The government pays and the Department of Disability transfers monies to the Department of Education for each child diagnosed with one of their bogus mental illnesses and provides to the parent.

When the child graduates the addictive mind drugs stop and the kid ends up in crack town to keep the distorted chemistry level caused by the mental Health at a level that the child can function. The mind damage is permanent.

Parents need to form a parent group identifing the Mental Health worker and who in the school system is the cause of the problem.

Never allow a child to be around a Mental Health Worker alone and begin teaching the child that talking to the Mental Health Industry is dangerous. They are bad people.

Father's still have the responsiblity of protecting their children.


Inside the Battle to Define Mental Illness

Every so often Al Frances says something that seems to surprise even him. Just now, for instance, in the predawn darkness of his comfortable, rambling home in Carmel, California, he has broken off his exercise routine to declare that “there is no definition of a mental disorder. It’s bullshit. I mean, you just can’t define it.” Then an odd, reflective look crosses his face, as if he’s taking in the strangeness of this scene: Allen Frances, lead editor of the fourth edition of the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (universally known as the DSM-IV), the guy who wrote the book on mental illness, confessing that “these concepts are virtually impossible to define precisely with bright lines at the boundaries.” For the first time in two days, the conversation comes to an awkward halt.

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There are no genetic tests, no brain scans, blood tests, chemical imbalance tests or X-rays that can scientifically/medically prove that any psychiatric disorder is a medical condition.

High Springs, FL

#8 Jul 24, 2011
Will anyone be normal, asks mental health experts
An updated edition of a mental health guide for doctors may include diagnoses for “disorders” such as toddler tantrums and binge eating, experts say, and could mean that soon no-one will be classed as normal.
Leading mental health experts gave a briefing yesterday to warn that a new edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), which is being revised now for publication in 2013, could devalue the seriousness of mental illness and label almost everyone as having some kind of disorder.
Citing examples of new additions like “mild anxiety depression”,“psychosis risk syndrome”, and “temper dysregulation disorder”, they said many people previously seen as perfectly healthy could in future be told they are ill.
“It’s leaking into normality. It is shrinking the pool of what is normal to a puddle,” said Til Wykes of the Institute of Psychiatry at Kings College London.
The DSM is published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) and contains descriptions, symptoms, and other criteria for diagnosing mental disorders. It is seen as the global diagnostic guide for the field of mental health medicine.
The criteria are designed to provide clear definitions for professionals who treat patients with mental disorders, and for researchers and pharmaceutical drug companies seeking to develop new ways of treating them.
Wykes and colleagues Felicity Callard, also of Kings’ Institute of Psychiatry, and Nick Craddock of Cardiff University’s department of psychological medicine and neurology, said many in the psychiatric community are worried that the further the guidelines are expanded, the more likely it will become that nobody will be classed as normal any more.

High Springs, FL

#9 Jul 24, 2011
Ex-Pharmaceutical Rep. Speaks Out

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High Springs, FL

#10 Jul 24, 2011
Forced mental health evaluations

Here we go again. This is NOT about freedom! Here comes the federal government seeking to "help" people again. This time they plan to force every American into mandatory mental health evaluations starting with school children and their teachers - an easy-access population controlled by funding-hungry school administrators.

You who are going through CPS trauma and family-interference should know better than anyone that a mandated, forced mental health evaluation is an intrusive, distressing process. It is a violation of your right to privacy under the Fourth Amendment.

This "New Freedom" is another violation of the Tenth Amendment which states, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." This is the latest in a long line of violations. The federal government unconstitutionally interferes with child welfare, health care, education and so much more.

Just like many other laws Bush signed, the "New Freedom Initiative" is deceptively named. This is not for more freedom. It is for violations of our freedoms and our rights to decline intrusive health evaluations. Do you realize in 2003 Bush signed a law called "Keeping Children and Families Safe" that renewed child welfare funding and included a new clause allowing caseworkers to intrude on your formerly private medical records? Do you think your children and families are safer now?

Do you realize this followed the new medical "privacy" act, HIPPA, that keeps your closest relatives from being able to ask your doctor how you're doing, but allows all HHS employees full access to your records? Does this feel like medical record privacy to you?

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Nelle Bradley

Chicago, IL

#11 Feb 3, 2012
There should be a need for awareness in churches as well. Because people look to their spiritual counselors for insight and enlightenment. There should be no place for hypocrisy but an open mind. I'm sure that's what God wants as well. He cares for His people and pastors should show the same love as well. Like the need for an information brigade on Paxil side effects. A lot of lawsuit may be avoided if societal pillars take their part… See:

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