Amarillo College nixes intelligent design class

Dec 23, 2013 Full story: World Magazine 284

In fall 2013, Amarillo College planned to offer a class entitled "Evolution vs. Intelligent Design" as one of its continuing education courses.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#125 Dec 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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You sound a lot like Hitler. Thought he was better and smarter than everyone else. Thought that what he believed was the only right way. Always had ridicule for all who did not agree with him and wanted to destroy all that did not agree with him. It is atheism that is trying to destroy Christianity, not Christianity trying to destroy with atheism.
I clearly do not think that.

Just because I know that I am more intelligent than the likes of you, defender and bohart does not mean I think that I am smarter than everyone. I can back up my ridicule with science, something the creatards cannot do.

And look at that second idiotic statement. Atheism is not attacking Christianity. Now we may attack idiots that believe in creationism, but that is not attacking Christianity. I always have to laugh at creationists that make the foolish mistake. And it is very telling. It shows us that creationism is not a science for them,it shows that it is a religious belief. And then they cry when it is banned from schools.

replaytime, your own mistakes show why that fraudulent belief is banned.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#126 Dec 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Doesn't amaze me at all. It is always the wolf in sheep's clothing that tries to pull the lamb from the flock to destroy it. It has to sneak around and lie so it won't get caught.
What a Maroon!!

That is exactly what the teacher of that class was trying to do. You are guilty of supporting the "sin" that you supposedly hate so much.

We have tried to help, but it seems that Ron White is correct:

"You can't fix stupid."

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Since: Mar 13

But We Will All Meet Him

#127 Dec 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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I clearly do not think that.
Just because I know that I am more intelligent than the likes of you, defender and bohart does not mean I think that I am smarter than everyone. I can back up my ridicule with science, something the creatards cannot do.
And look at that second idiotic statement. Atheism is not attacking Christianity. Now we may attack idiots that believe in creationism, but that is not attacking Christianity. I always have to laugh at creationists that make the foolish mistake. And it is very telling. It shows us that creationism is not a science for them,it shows that it is a religious belief. And then they cry when it is banned from schools.
replaytime, your own mistakes show why that fraudulent belief is banned.
What is Christianity?

Since: Mar 12

Dubai, UAE

#128 Dec 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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It was a leisure class, not for credit, volunteer class that was "offered", not "MANDATORY" two nights a week from Aug. 27 through Oct. 29.. It was not going to be taught as science.
Other leisure classes such as bowling and golf are mandatory and are for credits.
Intelligent golf, possible.

Intelligent bowling, there I am skeptical.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#129 Dec 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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What is Christianity?
A good question actually..
There are many thousands of different sects of Christianity. Some of them deny that other sects are Christian. Ultimately you have to trust the people. If they say that they are Christians that makes them Christians in my opinion. Other sects are in no position to be judging whether others are or are not Christians. I have seen more denial of others Christianity from Christians than from any other group. I have seen protestants say that Catholics are not Christians and vice versa. I have seen almost all groups deny that Mormons are Christians and nearly as many denying that Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians.
So, what is your definition of a Christian?

Since: Mar 12

Dubai, UAE

#130 Dec 28, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Amazing isn't it? You've seen the irrational posts from idiots like subby and Dude. They respond with nothing short of religious zealotry to defend their belief. How dare anyone question their belief as they claim science! Won't be long before these type idiots want to put people in a re-education camp, crazies do that you know.
You still have to deal with the embarrassing point that not a single "ID" assertion has held up under the scrutiny of scientists. There is no scientific debate.

There is only a political one driven ultimately by religionists who feel threatened by the science.

Sure, debate it all you like. However, I very much doubt, in reality, of the holder of such a class will ever offer the actual evidence for evolution or the reasons why ID is laughed at by real scientists.

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Since: Mar 13

But We Will All Meet Him

#131 Dec 28, 2013
As I have said before I believe in God and evolution. I believe God lets us evolve through the ages. He does not limit us and he may not agree with all we have done, but he does not interfere. Man will be the death of man. Man has became too greedy, too full of hate, takes more than he gives, his biggest worships are power and money.

God does not care how many bible verses we know, he cares about how many we follow.

God does not care if in the cyber world we are an angel. He cares about how we are in the real word.

God does not care how often we praise our self. He cares about how we praise others.

God does not care how we look. He cares about how we look upon others.

God does not care how much we have. He cares about how much we give.

God does not care how many times we fall. He cares about how many times we help the fallen.

Many can hide and put up a front and live a false life. But God always see’s what’s in our heart. God is forgiving,,, he is not blind.

And I might add I am guilty of most of this just as much as anyone.

You can believe in evolution all you want for I believe in it as well. The only difference is I believe God started it all where you believe it all started itself.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#132 Dec 28, 2013
So replaytime are you claiming that your God could not have created a universe where life arose naturally?

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Since: Mar 13

But We Will All Meet Him

#133 Dec 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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A good question actually..
There are many thousands of different sects of Christianity. Some of them deny that other sects are Christian. Ultimately you have to trust the people. If they say that they are Christians that makes them Christians in my opinion. Other sects are in no position to be judging whether others are or are not Christians. I have seen more denial of others Christianity from Christians than from any other group. I have seen protestants say that Catholics are not Christians and vice versa. I have seen almost all groups deny that Mormons are Christians and nearly as many denying that Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians.
So, what is your definition of a Christian?
Anymore all religions are ran as a business and many live high off they hog from the hard work of others. I don't go to church for they are full of hypocrites. Just because someone sins differently than they do they see them as bad people. Doing wrong is doing wrong, period. They judge someone for a sin while they sin in different ways or many times sin the same way but keep it hidden. Christianity has became lost in greed and hypocrisy.

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Since: Mar 13

But We Will All Meet Him

#134 Dec 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
So replaytime are you claiming that your God could not have created a universe where life arose naturally?
As I said, "You can believe in evolution all you want for I believe in it as well. The only difference is I believe God started it all where you believe it all started itself."

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Since: Mar 13

But We Will All Meet Him

#135 Dec 28, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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You still have to deal with the embarrassing point that not a single "ID" assertion has held up under the scrutiny of scientists. There is no scientific debate.
There is only a political one driven ultimately by religionists who feel threatened by the science.
Sure, debate it all you like. However, I very much doubt, in reality, of the holder of such a class will ever offer the actual evidence for evolution or the reasons why ID is laughed at by real scientists.
We live by and go by the laws of the universe but in reality we have no evidence how they came to be, where they came from or why they work out just right but everyone is all happy with that.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#136 Dec 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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As I said, "You can believe in evolution all you want for I believe in it as well. The only difference is I believe God started it all where you believe it all started itself."
That was either a clumsy dodge or you did not understand my question. I suggest that you try again.

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Since: Mar 13

But We Will All Meet Him

#137 Dec 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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That was either a clumsy dodge or you did not understand my question. I suggest that you try again.
God started it all,,,, as in the universe and life and has let us evolve. How is that confusing or a dodge?

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#138 Dec 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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God started it all,,,, as in the universe and life and has let us evolve. How is that confusing or a dodge?
You did it again. It was an honest question and you could not answer it.

That means you are either an idiot, in which case your inability to answer it would be forgivable, or you are a chickenshit, in which case it is inexcusable, or your are both. Hmm, I still thank that would be a case of it being unforgivable.

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Since: Mar 13

But We Will All Meet Him

#139 Dec 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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You did it again. It was an honest question and you could not answer it.
That means you are either an idiot, in which case your inability to answer it would be forgivable, or you are a chickenshit, in which case it is inexcusable, or your are both. Hmm, I still thank that would be a case of it being unforgivable.
I am really beginning to think you can't comprehend what you read. your question was "are you claiming that your God could not have created a universe where life arose naturally?"

I answered with "God started it all,,,, as in the universe and life and has let us evolve"

Now any one with reading comprehension can see I said God started life. What part about that confuses you. I say God started life. You say life arose naturally.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#140 Dec 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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I am really beginning to think you can't comprehend what you read. your question was "are you claiming that your God could not have created a universe where life arose naturally?"
I answered with "God started it all,,,, as in the universe and life and has let us evolve"
Now any one with reading comprehension can see I said God started life. What part about that confuses you. I say God started life. You say life arose naturally.
Idiot and liar, you and I both know what you are up to.

This sort of idiocy of yours is why no one likes you here.

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Since: Mar 13

But We Will All Meet Him

#141 Dec 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Idiot and liar, you and I both know what you are up to.
This sort of idiocy of yours is why no one likes you here.
I answered with "God started it all,,,, as in the universe and life and has let us evolve"

I say God started life. You say life arose naturally. Where is the trick you think you see in that?

It is called being honest. Something you don't recognize since you rarely do it.

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#142 Dec 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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I answered with "God started it all,,,, as in the universe and life and has let us evolve"
I say God started life. You say life arose naturally. Where is the trick you think you see in that?
It is called being honest. Something you don't recognize since you rarely do it.
Perhaps "God" *DID* start it all, including the forces of nature that led to the beginning of life, and the subsequent evolving of that life that ultimately became Man.

The issue is, science cannot include elements of SUPERNATURAL phenomena.

You provide objective evidence for a Supreme Being, and we'll include that in science.
defender

Somerset, KY

#143 Dec 28, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>You still have to deal with the embarrassing point that not a single "ID" assertion has held up under the scrutiny of scientists. There is no scientific debate.

There is only a political one driven ultimately by religionists who feel threatened by the science.

Sure, debate it all you like. However, I very much doubt, in reality, of the holder of such a class will ever offer the actual evidence for evolution or the reasons why ID is laughed at by real scientists.
Just never get it huh?... The theory you purpose cannot work on random natural processes... It has no origin (that you will concede anyway) It has no way of explaining complexity, dependency or information production... Mutation is clearly seen but not morphology... Limits are clearly seen... A common ancestor for all of life is a myth that science is nowhere close to solving... We know that complex working systems require a design... ID is not a theory it's a requirement...
defender

Somerset, KY

#144 Dec 28, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps "God" *DID* start it all, including the forces of nature that led to the beginning of life, and the subsequent evolving of that life that ultimately became Man.

The issue is, science cannot include elements of SUPERNATURAL phenomena.

You provide objective evidence for a Supreme Being, and we'll include that in science.
Perhaps mathematically impossible random natural forces did start it all and then somehow reproduced itself, morphed into complex intelligent life and developed complex food chains in order to survive off of itself... Whatca think?

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