OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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Harry

United States

#47841 Sep 30, 2013
Get rid of all rethugs.
Jesse

United States

#47842 Sep 30, 2013
Government Shutdown Poll Shows Majority Of Americans Would Blame Republicans

Well, the Republican Party is right. Americans are totally going to blame President Obama for a government shutdown according to a new poll. Oh wait, I’m sorry. I must have read some other poll that conservatives made up. Because this actual CNN/ORC poll says the complete and utter opposite.

The survey reveals the true feelings of the American people that the Republican Party has been denying all this time. Just like Americans blamed the GOP for the government shutdown of 1995 and saw Republicans as childish, the CNN survey shows that Americans are prepared to blame Republicans once again if the government shuts down on Tuesday.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#47845 Sep 30, 2013
Well Democrats refused to compromise and give the American people the same special treatment they get them selves as well as delayed it from any effect on Fat Cat Corporate America.

Forget what the Republicans are saying, forget that the infamous government shutdowns of 1995-96 ushered in great economic prosperity. Here are 10 reasons you should be incredibly concerned about a government shutdown.

1. Who will shut down the corner lemonade stand? We can’t let those little pig-tailed blondies at the end of the block think they can sell lemonade without a permit.

2. Who will raid raw milk farms? The Amish have been terrorizing the countryside with their raw, unchemicaled milk. What do they think this is? EUROPE?

3. Who will secretly read our emails? It just seems uncivilized to read my email before the NSA.

4. And the money, what about the money? Who is going to spend all of our money on things like salmon fisheries?

5. Mexican drug lords won’t get their weapons in time for their next raid. We all know how hard it is to kidnap and torment without American taxpayer funded weaponry… think of the drug lords!

6. Americans would be safe from drone surveillance and attack. How are we supposed to feel safe without the constant threat of drone attack and surveillance?

7. What will we do without politicians constantly hurling their contempt at the American people who pay their salaries?

8. No more White House tours!!! Oh wait… Barack and Michelle already shut that down, never mind no changes to that... CLOSED ALREADY.

9. So Many Post Offices To Name.

10. There will be no one to molest us at airports. I’m not prepared to live in a world where I don’t get a little federal pre-flight action.

http://rare.us/story/10-reasons-we-should-be-...
DoesntMatter

Oklahoma City, OK

#47847 Sep 30, 2013
Harry Reid said he won't negotiate.

House passed a funding bill 3 times.

Harry Reid's party of no owns it.

Ted Cruz is giving his salary to charity while Reid and Pelosi are calling half the country names.

The media and dems are pushing fear like they did with the sequester and tomorrow people will still be talking about Miley Cyrus and One Republic and life will go on.
DoesntMatter

Oklahoma City, OK

#47848 Sep 30, 2013
And still not one dem can answer why the people of the US should have to follow a law that Congress doesn't. As a matter of fact, the Constitution says that's a no-no
DoesntMatter

Oklahoma City, OK

#47849 Sep 30, 2013
Lmfao the Obamacare website has disappeared LOL! The irony is hilarious. They can't even get a website right lol
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#47850 Oct 1, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
3. Who will secretly read our emails? It just seems uncivilized to read my email before the NSA.

10. There will be no one to molest us at airports. I’m not prepared to live in a world where I don’t get a little federal pre-flight action.
/
You concerns are revealing again.
Paranoia and perversion.
Worry over electronic surveillance and
enjoying airport groping.

You should worry most about Federal prisoners
being feed.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#47851 Oct 1, 2013
The Senate has intentionately altered passed legislation, clearly hoping to provoke a federal government shutdown on Tuesday in which they have officially done now.

It was clear the Senate Democrats would not compromise on a bill in time to get it to Community Disorganizer, Barack Hussein Obama in time, just as he hoped would happen. The American people didn’t really want a government shutdown but... they definately don’t want Obamacare Rammed Down Their Throats either and realize the Democrats would rather Shut Down the Government than be fair with the Citizens that pay them.

House Republican leaders said in a joint statement.“We did our job exactly as The American People Elected us to do and sent 'The Peoples Bill' over and it was up to Barack Hussein Obama to persuede The Senate Democrats to quit playing Games and pass it and stop their intended government shutdown gamesmanship.” They would not so, The American People see that Obama and Progressive Democrats wanted to shut down the government all along.

The Senate removed language passed by the house that would have treated all Americans with the same consideration the Progressive Democrats and Obama gave to their Campaign Donors and blocked all secretly added money for the health care law as it slowly falls off the financial cliff because of all the waivers Obama and the Democrats illegally gave out without Congressional Approval.

So as the federal government starts it's first shutdown in 17 years, House Republicans chose a hard line for the American People, demanding a one-year delay of President Obama’s health care law just like he gave Corporate America as well as considering the same for Unions and the repeal of a tax to on medical devices that many hard working taxpaying Americans desperately need.

House Plans Funding the Peoples Bill, With Conditions The American People Demand... just as we elected them to do in 2010.

“The federal government has shut down 17 times before, sometimes when the Democrats were in control, sometimes with divided government,” said Representative Virginia Foxx, Republican of North Carolina.“What are we doing on our side of the aisle? We’re fighting for the American people.”

Separately, the House also voted to ensure Seniors get their Social Security Checks and the Military Forces continue to be paid during this Democrat Provoked Government Shutdown. With Democrats in the Senate saying they would not accept the new proposal, that attitude and repulsive action all but ensured that large swaths of the government were shuttered as of 12:01 a.m. on Tuesday. Thanks Democrats!
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#47852 Oct 1, 2013
Obamacare Will Increase Health Spending By $7,450 For A Typical Family of Four at minimum even though Obama LIED and said it would be cheaper.

It was one of candidate Obama’s most vivid and concrete campaign promises. Forget about high minded (some might say high sounding) but gauzy promises of hope and change. This candidate solemnly pledged on June 5, 2008:“In an Obama administration, we’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year... We’ll do it by the end of my first term as President of the United States.”

Unfortunately, the experts working for Medicare’s actuary have yet again, reported that in its first 10 years, Obamacare will boost health spending by “roughly $621 billion” above the amounts Americans would have spent without this misguided law.

Let us hope NO family has already spent or borrowed the $22,500 in savings they expected over this same period had they taken this Kenyan Fraud, candidate Obama’s lying promise at face value. In truth, no well-informed American should have believed this absurd promise. At the time, Factcheck org charitably deemed this claim as “overly optimistic, misleading and to some extent, contradicted by one of his own advisers.”

The Washington Post less charitably awarded it Two Pinocchios “Significant omissions and exaggerations”.

Yet rather than learn from his mistakes, Obama on July 16, 2012 essentially doubled-down on his promise assuring small business owners “your premiums will go down,” knowing full well he was lying again.

He made this assertion notwithstanding the fact that in three separate reports between April 2010 and June 2012, the Medicare actuaries had demonstrated that the ACA would increase health spending by $621 Billion and then Obama gave all of his friends and supporters a waiver that was never approved by Congress.

To its credit, the Washington Post dutifully awarded the 2012 claim Three Pinocchios “Significant factual error and/or obvious contradictions.”

So majority of citizens keep asking that unanswered question:

Why does Obama and The Democrat Party Hate all Americans and Love Fat Cat Corporations. They gave exemptions from Obamacare to themselves and to Fat Cats while they consider the same for Unions, yet will not consider it for average citizens, why so much hatred toward taxpaying law-abiding citizens that pay their salaries and healthcare benefits away from Obamacare because they refuse to abide by the same laws they ram down others throats? WHY SHOULD THEY BE EXEMPT?
Frank

United States

#47853 Oct 1, 2013
This will have to be extended to all rethugs---SOOO fitting..

""Ahhh!!!!Prickly Heat,

You talk so much sh!t, that I don't know whether to offer you a breath mint or toilet paper.""
Jesse

United States

#47854 Oct 1, 2013
HAAAAAAAA

The rethugs teabaggers and their supporters will go down next nov, 2014.

HAAAAA
Homer

United States

#47855 Oct 1, 2013
Jesse wrote:
HAAAAAAAA
The rethugs teabaggers and their supporters will go down next nov, 2014.
HAAAAA
About time!!!!
Jethro

United States

#47856 Oct 1, 2013
Like the POTUS said "It is all about the rethugs losing the election"

And they are going to loose big time in 2014.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#47857 Oct 1, 2013
After 5 years of Obama, Poor People are still on the bottom rung of society and... they only have themselves and liberal retards to blame if they keep voting for these Corrupt Progressive Democrats...

Progressive Democrats in the U.S. Senate and Congress to their Obamabot Followers:
"Obamacare is good for you and your family, but not for us and our families"

Obamabots:
"Yes master, thanks for the free Obamaphone and our free foodstamps...

We like it here on the Progressive Democrat Plantation without any jobs and our Government Shutdown with our Obamacare Premium Due.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#47858 Oct 1, 2013
Universal Health Care Not Best Option
By Michael D. Tanner
This article appeared in The Bulletin on February 23, 2009
Supporters of a government-run national health care system often urge the United States to learn from the experience of other countries and they are right. But those lessons may not be exactly what the political left expects. For example:

• Universal health insurance does not necessarily mean universal access to health care. In practice, many countries promise universal coverage but ration care or have extremely long waiting lists for treatment. Those countries that have single-payer systems or systems heavily weighted toward government control are the most likely to face waiting lists, rationing, restrictions on the choice of physician, and other barriers to care.

• Those countries with national health care systems that work better, such as France, the Netherlands and Switzerland, are successful to the degree that they incorporate market mechanisms such as competition, cost-consciousness, market prices, and consumer choice, and eschew centralized government control.
In France, for example, co-payments run between 10 and 40 percent, and physicians can balance bill over and above government reimbursement rates, something not allowed in the U.S. Medicare program. On average, French patients pay roughly as much out of pocket as do Americans. The Swiss government pays a smaller percentage of health care spending than does the U.S.

• Rising health care spending is not a uniquely American phenomenon. While other countries spend considerably less than the U.S. on health care both as a percentage of GDP and per capita, it is often because they begin with a lower base of expenditures. But their costs are still rising, leading to budget deficits, tax increases, and/or benefit cuts. In 2004, the last year for which data is available, the average annual increase for per capita health spending in European countries was 5.55 percent, only slightly lower than the United States’ 6.21 percent. As the Wall Street Journal notes, Europeans face steeper medical bills in the future in their cash-strapped governments. In short, there is no free lunch.
CONTINUED NEXT POST...
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#47859 Oct 1, 2013
CONTINUED FROM LAST POST...
• While no country with universal coverage is contemplating abandoning a universal system, the broad and growing trend in countries with national health care systems is to move away from centralized government control and to introduce more market oriented features. As Richard Saltman and Josep Figueras of the World Health Organization put it, The presumption of public primacy is being reassessed. Thus, even as the U.S. debates adopting a government-run system, countries with those systems are debating how to make their systems look more like the U.S.
Looking at other countries and their experiences, then, can provide guidance to Americans as we debate how to reform our health care system. In most cases, national health care systems have successfully expanded insurance coverage to the vast majority, if not quite all, of the population.

But they have not solved the universal and seemingly irresistible problem of rising health care costs. In many cases, attempts to control costs through governmental fiat have led to problems with access to care, either delays in receiving care or outright rationing.

In wrestling with this dilemma, many countries are loosening government controls and injecting market mechanisms, particularly cost-sharing by patients, market pricing of goods and services, and increased competition among insurers and providers. As Pat Cox, former president of the European Parliament, put it in a report to the European Commission, we should start to explore the power of the market as a way of achieving much better value for money?

Moreover, the growth of the government share of health care spending, which had increased steadily from the end of World War II until the mid-1980s, has stopped, and in many countries the private share has begun to increase, in some cases substantially. There is even evidence of a growing shift from public to private provision of health care.

If the trend in the U.S. over the last several years has been toward more of a European-style system, the trend in Europe is toward a system that looks more like the U.S.

Therefore, if there is a lesson which U.S. policymakers can take from national health care systems around the world, it is not to follow the road to government-run national health care, but to increase consumer incentives and control.

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/u...
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#47860 Oct 1, 2013
Jethro wrote:
<quoted text>Like the POTUS said "It is all about the rethugs losing the election"

And they are going to loose big time in 2014.

Heard that same bullshit in 2010... how did that workout for you, ROFLMAO
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#47861 Oct 1, 2013
WarForOil wrote:
<quoted text>You should worry most about Federal prisoners being feed.

Really Chester? "Federal prisoners being feed"???

Exactly what kind of feed are you worried about your extended family and friends being turned into that you think I should worry most about, you ignorant dolt?

Did they even let you go to the school for the retarded in Grapevine Texas Chester?
Oh' never mind Chester...
DISMISSED, just put that Crack-Pipe down and go kill your self.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#47862 Oct 1, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
Lmfao the Obamacare website has disappeared LOL! The irony is hilarious. They can't even get a website right lol
People without Healthcare is funny to you? How's your nowhere job treating you? You should be looking for another job, your just one more Wal-Mart away from unemployment. Then who will be laughing?
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#47863 Oct 1, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
<quoted text>
Really Chester? "Federal prisoners being feed"???

DISMISSED,
If you could read AND understand,
you'd see I said 'you' should be worried.

Come on, General DISMISSED, do better.
Or I may actually abandon you to belittle
someone at least a little interesting.

Your cut & pastes are mostly meaningless,
and your authored stuff is 5th grade.

You're dangerous close to being ignored.

Tell us more about TOPIX censoring and
your amassed fortune. Maybe a little
more gun worship too. Is your pickup
elevated ?

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