OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#46452 Aug 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! You should stick to being a Lap Dog, you don't have the teeth to be an Attack Dog.
Goofy. Isn't he a Disney Character that is a Dog? Does that make me your idol?
I'm sorry, I must have been thinking about you when I typed woods instead of words, but at least I didn't type backwoods.
Dear IT you are the one from the 'backwoods'.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#46453 Aug 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like your Grandson is dependent on you. You might try having someone teach him how to work. You most not have raised your Children properly. I'll bet they have their hands out when they come to visit you too.
Since you think you are so smart that you have to point out everyones typing mistakes Well here is another one for you--"You most not have raised your Children properly.'!
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#46454 Aug 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Hopefully Scott Pruitt will decide to do the right thing


He will and he has court ruling as his guide. He knows the drill... your emotions in this case will have no influence of any kind. Time for the kid to get her traveling shoes on, time to go home to South Carolina and not here with Dusten who signed her away as long as he didn't have to pay for child support. For him, end of story, he has no rights of any kind because he signed them away and that is official, period! WATCH!

United States Supreme Court Ruling...
Holding: Assuming for the sake of argument that the biological father in this case is a "parent" for purposes of the Indian Child Welfare Act, the Act still does not bar termination of the biological father's paternal rights.
http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/ad...
In other words he is a fugitive at-large right now... warrant for his arrest and capture and extradicted asap.

Speed-up of “Baby Veronica” transfer
A family court judge in South Carolina, citing evidence that the father of the little girl now known as “Baby Veronica” is not obeying a court ruling on the child’s adoption by others, has ordered an immediate transfer to those new “lawful parents.” The judge cancelled a “transition plan” that would have had the transfer occurring over about a week’s time, to ease the transition.

“Baby Veronica,” who will be four years old next month, was at the center of a Supreme Court ruling in late June, finding that the child’s birth father could not claim parental rights to the child under a federal Indian law. The father, Dusten Brown of Bartlesville, Oklahoma, is a member of the Cherokee Nation and was claiming rights as an Indian parent. South Carolina courts have awarded full legal custody of the little girl to a non-Indian couple who live near Charleston, Matthew and Melanie Capobianco.

At the end of last month, the Capobiancos won the right to adopt the child. But they also agreed that, to avoid the shock of an abrupt removal of her from the father with whom she has been living for more than eighteen months, they would go along with a more measured transfer that would unfold in Oklahoma. But Family Court Judge Daniel E. Martin, Jr., citing a sworn statement by a social worker named to carry out the transition plan, said that Brown did not show up at the appointed time and place last Sunday to begin the transition.

That, the judge concluded, violated his order requiring the transition plan, and thus that plan has now been scuttled, with the Capobiancos entitled “immediately” to take the child into their custody. The judge ordered the father to produce the child and turn her over to the Capobiancos, saying that the child “is being unlawfully withheld from her lawful parents.”

The judge sent copies of his ruling to various federal and state officials, asking them to take prompt action to locate “Baby Veronica” and turn her over to the Capobiancos. The judge also asked courts in Oklahoma to help produce the child. Hense why Governor Mary Fallin has to be involved. Time for the girl to find her shoes, be leaving before long, watch... Don't even ask, "HELL YES I WANT HER TO GO WHERE SHE BELONGS! Her family in South Carolina.
http://www.scotusblog.com/...

A copy of the new order is here:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/1nmgvsP_Ra1YBk...

According to this order Veronica needs to get her traveling shoes on because it will not be long before she heads back home to South Carolina.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#46455 Aug 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like your Grandson is dependent on you. You might try having someone teach him how to work. You most not have raised your Children properly. I'll bet they have their hands out when they come to visit you too.

The whole family is and they should, I have plenty. I don't need anyone to teach mine anything, I do just fine. I teach him about owning it, not working it for someone else. They do not need jobs, they will own companies and make people like you miserable, why not?

Nope, they just stop by and pick up their allowances on allowance day, why? If you're wondering do I buy them all new cars, the answer is no, the grandson opted for a truck, just the grand-daughters wants cars, why?
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#46456 Aug 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>According to your own definitions of a liberal, your more liberal than everyone else on here.

With my own money... some say I'm a socialist too, your point is?

With Taxpayer money, Don't believe in wasting the fruits of others labor, I favor low taxes, small Government and Ultra Strong Military and privatize the rest of it. Big Government = Waste Fraud and Corruption all unchecked as we are witnessing now...
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#46457 Aug 17, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
<quoted text>
Children are not property of tribes or government.
She's not stopping anything from happening and shes not fighting anything, so none of you're numbered explanations mean anything.
It's already been to the Supreme Court so it's not going anywhere.
The Cherokee nation nor the father has no say since her father signed his rights over, giving up all legal rights to her.


Exactly Right. I just gave him/her/it's homework, now watch him/her/it flunk the test anyway even with the answers now, lol.

Dusten Brown is going to jail and veronica is going to South Carolina when it is all said and done.
DoesntMatter

Cushing, OK

#46458 Aug 17, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly Right. I just gave him/her/it's homework, now watch him/her/it flunk the test anyway even with the answers now, lol.
Dusten Brown is going to jail and veronica is going to South Carolina when it is all said and done.
You are correct and Mr. Brown gave his child away to avoid paying child support, which automatically makes him a gigantic LOSER and doesn't need to raise a child he gave away.

At the moment that paper with his signature was filed in a court house, it was over for him. Indian, white, black, mexican, doesn't matter. Indians are not Obama, they do have to follow the law the same as everyone else.

She will flunk it and for one reason. She is just like Justaminute, if not her. If it has anything to do with any other race that's not white VS. the white man, then you can bet a million dollars that she will not be siding with "The White Man", no matter who's right. Racism at it's finest. But that's how they roll.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#46459 Aug 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>You most not have raised your Children properly.


Hey Fry Queen, this is not a spelling class you ignorant dolt!
You most have [pun intended] raised your kids with a tin cup in their hand, lol.

You going to lecture me about raising children rich is not properly raised, lol.
This should be entertaining, hang on and let me get some popcorn...

I can already tell you, the kids won't like you.

Hey Fry Queen, get another brain too and a better argument, lol.

Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno’t mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghi t pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#46460 Aug 17, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
<quoted text>You are correct and Mr. Brown gave his child away to avoid paying child support, which automatically makes him a gigantic LOSER and doesn't need to raise a child he gave away.
At the moment that paper with his signature was filed in a court house, it was over for him. Indian, white, black, mexican, doesn't matter. Indians are not Obama, they do have to follow the law the same as everyone else.
She will flunk it and for one reason. She is just like Justaminute, if not her. If it has anything to do with any other race that's not white VS. the white man, then you can bet a million dollars that she will not be siding with "The White Man", no matter who's right. Racism at it's finest. But that's how they roll.
Exactly!

Yes, I see the real racist leaking out in each post.
So What

Newalla, OK

#46461 Aug 17, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
<quoted text>
Children are not property of tribes or government.
She's not stopping anything from happening and shes not fighting anything, so none of you're numbered explanations mean anything.
It's already been to the Supreme Court so it's not going anywhere.
The Cherokee nation nor the father has no say since her father signed his rights over, giving up all legal rights to her.
[PDF]
UNITED STATES CODE TITLE 25 - INDIANS CHAPTER 21 ...

www.nicwa.org/policy/law/icwa/icwa.pdf&#8... ;

I didn't say Fallin was stopping or fighting anything. I said she was running her mouth for the purposes of political grandstanding.

I will say it one more time. The Supreme Court only ruled on the biological father's rights, not the rights of the tribe.

Fallin has threatened to have the Father arrested if he doesn't turn over the child. The Cherokee tribe believes that because of treaties that are now in place, that nobody can come on tribal land and do anything if the Tribe Doesn't want them to.

I believe that Baby Veronica should be with the S.C. family that has proved they want her and love, but it looks like the Cherokee Tribe is going to flex their muscles. Time will only tell if the United States breaks another Treaty with them in their opinion.
So What

Newalla, OK

#46462 Aug 17, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Fry Queen, this is not a spelling class you ignorant dolt!
You most have [pun intended] raised your kids with a tin cup in their hand, lol.
You going to lecture me about raising children rich is not properly raised, lol.
This should be entertaining, hang on and let me get some popcorn...
I can already tell you, the kids won't like you.
Hey Fry Queen, get another brain too and a better argument, lol.
Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno’t mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghi t pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
You have been drinking again haven't you.
So What

Newalla, OK

#46463 Aug 17, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Good Day to YOU to, IT. And you keep sticking to being an Idiot Poster!. All you have as talent is Name calling. As far as anyone on here it is you, IT, that is the Goofy One!
Just bringing myself down to a level that you understand.
Oh by the way ,I thought you said you had health insurance other than socialized healthcare better known as Medicare Or was it Medicaid you were referring to?
So What

Newalla, OK

#46464 Aug 17, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Dear IT you are the one from the 'backwoods'.
according to Packing Heat's new forum. You live in the HOOD. I think I would prefer the backwoods over Hoodmond.
So What

Newalla, OK

#46465 Aug 17, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
<quoted text>
The whole family is and they should, I have plenty. I don't need anyone to teach mine anything, I do just fine. I teach him about owning it, not working it for someone else. They do not need jobs, they will own companies and make people like you miserable, why not?
Nope, they just stop by and pick up their allowances on allowance day, why? If you're wondering do I buy them all new cars, the answer is no, the grandson opted for a truck, just the grand-daughters wants cars, why?
Your right, just how much education does one need when all you have to do is hold out your hand.

To bad they can't see how bad you put them down.
DoesntMatter

Cushing, OK

#46466 Aug 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>[PDF]
UNITED STATES CODE TITLE 25 - INDIANS CHAPTER 21 ...

www.nicwa.org/policy/law/icwa/icwa.pdf&#8... ;

I didn't say Fallin was stopping or fighting anything. I said she was running her mouth for the purposes of political grandstanding.

I will say it one more time. The Supreme Court only ruled on the biological father's rights, not the rights of the tribe.

Fallin has threatened to have the Father arrested if he doesn't turn over the child. The Cherokee tribe believes that because of treaties that are now in place, that nobody can come on tribal land and do anything if the Tribe Doesn't want them to.

I believe that Baby Veronica should be with the S.C. family that has proved they want her and love, but it looks like the Cherokee Tribe is going to flex their muscles. Time will only tell if the United States breaks another Treaty with them in their opinion.
Has it occurred to you that he would be arrested bc he's defying court orders and a warrant has been issued?

And i will say it one more time. She's talking about it because its her job.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#46467 Aug 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Just bringing myself down to a level that you understand.
Oh by the way ,I thought you said you had health insurance other than socialized healthcare better known as Medicare Or was it Medicaid you were referring to?
What is your point? Most everyone that turns 65 usually goes on Medicare. Even your folks you said had Medicare and you said a supplement. I guess you know Part A of Medicare is paid into when you pay taxes and in to S. Security and Part B is monthly pay. Most people that do go on Medicare paid their dues in buying or having employment that furnished health ins. These people have already lived what you a suppose to be living today. Before we turned 65 we bought our own Health ins. and we bought and paid for a very good plan.
So what is your problem with people on Medicare or is it that problem is just towards me which you do know me personally.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#46468 Aug 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>according to Packing Heat's new forum. You live in the HOOD. I think I would prefer the backwoods over Hoodmond.
I have made no comment to where or how you live. I donot care if you live in the country or trailer park or a nice neighborhood or the slums. So what is your point to attacking where and how I live. Does it make you feel big or powerful or what is the point you are trying to make? Do you even Know what a Hood neighborhood is. IF THIS IS ALL YOU GOT TO POST well it is pretty shallow.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#46469 Aug 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>according to Packing Heat's new forum. You live in the HOOD. I think I would prefer the backwoods over Hoodmond.
Oh you are referring to his post about the Former Edmond Memorial Hi Basketball Player being shot? Now your Post really does sound STUPID!
You do have a warp way of looking at things. No wonder you have a back problem carrying such a big chip of dumbness around on your shoulder. That is if you really do have spine problems.
So What

Newalla, OK

#46470 Aug 17, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
<quoted text>
With my own money... some say I'm a socialist too, your point is?
With Taxpayer money, Don't believe in wasting the fruits of others labor, I favor low taxes, small Government and Ultra Strong Military and privatize the rest of it. Big Government = Waste Fraud and Corruption all unchecked as we are witnessing now...
I think you have psychosis and socialist confused for each other. When you came out of your coma in 2008, the Doctors told you that you have a psychosis, not your a socialist.

It doesn't matter how big our military is, your still going to die. You shouldn't be so scared of the inevitable. But if you believe in God, I can understand why you would be.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#46471 Aug 17, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>according to Packing Heat's new forum. You live in the HOOD. I think I would prefer the backwoods over Hoodmond.
By the way 'IT' what does P.H.'s have to do with me? I don't know the kid nor his family! People go down the wrong path here in Edmond just like every where else including where ever you park yourself and your Family. So again what point are you trying so hard to make?

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