OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

1,604 votes

Click on an option to vote

Yes

No

Other (explain below)

TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44171 Jun 24, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
From the Oklahoman:
Access to physicians in Oklahoma, especially in rural parts of the state, could become even more limited when the federal health care law kicks in next year and thousands of previously uninsured Oklahomans obtain coverage.
Shortages of primary care physicians across the state could lead to higher patient loads, delays in visits to the doctor and more reliance on other health professionals such as nurse practitioners and physicians assistants when the new health care law goes into effect on Jan. 1, officials said.
“All of a sudden there’s an increase in the number of patients that have insurance,” said Jim Bishop, deputy executive director of the Physician Manpower Training Commission, a state agency that administers programs designed to improve medical care in rural and underserved areas of the state.
“There’s going to be so many people flooding doctor’s offices,” Bishop said.“It’s not going to make physicians happy.”
In 2010, Oklahoma ranked 43rd in the nation in the number of primary care physicians practicing in the state with 2,817, or about 76 doctors per 100,000 residents, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges.
Andy Fosmire, managing director of the Rural Health Association of Oklahoma, said the shortage of primary care providers is worse in rural parts of the state, where access to health care could become more difficult under the health care law.
“There’s a lot of fear that 2014 is going to hit and all of a sudden 30 million people are going to appear at a primary care physician’s doorstep,” Fosmire said.“The potential is there. They’ll have to fill that gap.”
I heard on the news the other day that there are less people studying to be just a primary doctors. Most are going into a specialty field of medicine. The last place they want to end up at is in the rural areas of any state not just here in Oklahoma.
So What

Newalla, OK

#44172 Jun 24, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
From the Oklahoman:
Access to physicians in Oklahoma, especially in rural parts of the state, could become even more limited when the federal health care law kicks in next year and thousands of previously uninsured Oklahomans obtain coverage.
Shortages of primary care physicians across the state could lead to higher patient loads, delays in visits to the doctor and more reliance on other health professionals such as nurse practitioners and physicians assistants when the new health care law goes into effect on Jan. 1, officials said.
“All of a sudden there’s an increase in the number of patients that have insurance,” said Jim Bishop, deputy executive director of the Physician Manpower Training Commission, a state agency that administers programs designed to improve medical care in rural and underserved areas of the state.
“There’s going to be so many people flooding doctor’s offices,” Bishop said.“It’s not going to make physicians happy.”
In 2010, Oklahoma ranked 43rd in the nation in the number of primary care physicians practicing in the state with 2,817, or about 76 doctors per 100,000 residents, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges.
Andy Fosmire, managing director of the Rural Health Association of Oklahoma, said the shortage of primary care providers is worse in rural parts of the state, where access to health care could become more difficult under the health care law.
“There’s a lot of fear that 2014 is going to hit and all of a sudden 30 million people are going to appear at a primary care physician’s doorstep,” Fosmire said.“The potential is there. They’ll have to fill that gap.”
More patients with health insurance is going to make physicians unhappy? They most make enough money already.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44173 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>More patients with health insurance is going to make physicians unhappy? They most make enough money already.
How many hours a day do you work at your job?
A good Doctor is booked solid. That goes for a primary doctor or a specialist doctor. So why would they want more patients to see. I know when I get sick but not sick enough to go to ER I don't want a longer wait period in getting into see a doctor. And all they people that will be added into the flow of needing medical attention that is exactly what will happen.
So What

Newalla, OK

#44174 Jun 24, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>How many hours a day do you work at your job?
A good Doctor is booked solid. That goes for a primary doctor or a specialist doctor. So why would they want more patients to see. I know when I get sick but not sick enough to go to ER I don't want a longer wait period in getting into see a doctor. And all they people that will be added into the flow of needing medical attention that is exactly what will happen.
Or maybe a good Doctor is booked solid because they doesn't spend enough time in their office. When was the last time Edmond was considered a rural community, 1960?
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#44175 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>More patients with health insurance is going to make physicians unhappy? They most make enough money already.


Yep, it sure has! In fact, unhappy enough they are going to do something about it and make more money in the long run!

If you think that then think again after you read more on the lastest discussion among many Doctors that believe otherwise...

Less Patients, More Money and Less Headache System Study already underway, lol.

Why Doctors Are Bailing Out of Health Insurance...

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2013/06...

Cash-only doctors abandon the insurance system...

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/11/news/economy/...

The Cost Explosion of Obamacare about to hit home...

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2013/03...

$1 Trillion Dollars of New Taxes from Health Reform Coming...

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/0...

A few Doctors that I have had casual conversations with say they are looking at doing the same thing and that takes the Government completely out of him and his Patients relationship. Like Doc told me, "In God We Trust, All Others Will Pay Cash".
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44176 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Or maybe a good Doctor is booked solid because they doesn't spend enough time in their office. When was the last time Edmond was considered a rural community, 1960?
I have not always lived in Edmond. I moved here 2003. I lived in Enid before. I drove back and forth to a doctor here in the Edmond, Mercy, and Integrist [misspelled] area long before I moved here. Enid is not exactly a rural area but it is not booming area either. But there a plenty of rural town around the Enid area and I know plenty of people in and around the Enid area.
Now when I got sick last Aug late the doctors I ended up with were working around the clock. My primary doctor, my surgeon and who else was involved. When we found out my husband had colon cancer 2004 all those doctors were working around the clock taking care of patients. So I do know plenty of doctors that are not horsing around.
DoesntMatter

Cushing, OK

#44177 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>More patients with health insurance is going to make physicians unhappy? They most make enough money already.
Yeah, nice spin but that's not what the article said.
DoesntMatter

Cushing, OK

#44178 Jun 24, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>How many hours a day do you work at your job?
A good Doctor is booked solid. That goes for a primary doctor or a specialist doctor. So why would they want more patients to see. I know when I get sick but not sick enough to go to ER I don't want a longer wait period in getting into see a doctor. And all they people that will be added into the flow of needing medical attention that is exactly what will happen.
And this also supports what people have been saying about long waiting lines to see a doctor.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44179 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Or maybe a good Doctor is booked solid because they doesn't spend enough time in their office. When was the last time Edmond was considered a rural community, 1960?
Oh by the way my Mother was a nurse for 3 Pediatricians in their office for 25 years and they were always busy. They each had 1 day off a week and never ever turn a sick kid away. Many times Mothers hours was not a 9 to 5 thing. Never shorter hours and getting to go home early if you get what I am saying.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44180 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Or maybe a good Doctor is booked solid because they doesn't spend enough time in their office. When was the last time Edmond was considered a rural community, 1960?
In 1960 I was living in Enid Oklahoma and a Senior in High school.
So What

Newalla, OK

#44181 Jun 24, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, it sure has! In fact, unhappy enough they are going to do something about it and make more money in the long run!
If you think that then think again after you read more on the lastest discussion among many Doctors that believe otherwise...
Less Patients, More Money and Less Headache System Study already underway, lol.
Why Doctors Are Bailing Out of Health Insurance...
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2013/06...
Cash-only doctors abandon the insurance system...
http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/11/news/economy/...
The Cost Explosion of Obamacare about to hit home...
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2013/03...
$1 Trillion Dollars of New Taxes from Health Reform Coming...
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/0...
A few Doctors that I have had casual conversations with say they are looking at doing the same thing and that takes the Government completely out of him and his Patients relationship. Like Doc told me, "In God We Trust, All Others Will Pay Cash".
Yes, there are a few Doctors that can cater to the rich, but I can assure you that it is the exception in the medical industry, and they don't work in rural areas that the article was referring to.

Look back at the article and give me a definition of the word could used in paragraph one and two. My definition is; I don't know if this is true or not.

I don't use the Oklahoman because I can buy better toilet paper than that. All they are about is scare tactics for the sole purpose of pandering to their owners agenda.

The only thing that scares me is what is this country going to be like 50 years from now.

So What

Newalla, OK

#44182 Jun 24, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Oh by the way my Mother was a nurse for 3 Pediatricians in their office for 25 years and they were always busy. They each had 1 day off a week and never ever turn a sick kid away. Many times Mothers hours was not a 9 to 5 thing. Never shorter hours and getting to go home early if you get what I am saying.
Well the medical industry is not that way now. That is why so many have to rely on ER's.
So What

Newalla, OK

#44183 Jun 24, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Oh by the way my Mother was a nurse for 3 Pediatricians in their office for 25 years and they were always busy. They each had 1 day off a week and never ever turn a sick kid away. Many times Mothers hours was not a 9 to 5 thing. Never shorter hours and getting to go home early if you get what I am saying.
Those were the good old days. To bad your money is more important than your health today.
So What

Newalla, OK

#44184 Jun 24, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, nice spin but that's not what the article said.
“There’s going to be so many people flooding doctor’s offices,” Bishop said.“It’s not going to make physicians happy.

Translate this for me please.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44185 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Those were the good old days. To bad your money is more important than your health today.
Just explain what you are saying exactly when you are saying my money is more important than my health today!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44186 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Those were the good old days. To bad your money is more important than your health today.
What date are you calling the "good old days" exactly.

I have you know the doctor that did my husband's surgery and took care of him from 2004 was taking care of patients doing office calls, surgeries and checking on patients while in the hospital. Is 2004 the good old days? When I got in a situation last Aug. and it ended up being a life or death situation the doctors taking care of me where either doing surgery. checking on patients in the hospital or seeing patients in the office. Is Aug. 2012 the good old days? There are still good doctors out there!
So What

Newalla, OK

#44187 Jun 24, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Just explain what you are saying exactly when you are saying my money is more important than my health today!
If you had no insurance when your husband got sick, do you think his chances of survival would have been the same?
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#44189 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, there are a few Doctors that can cater to the rich, but I can assure you that it is the exception in the medical industry, and they don't work in rural areas that the article was referring to.
Look back at the article and give me a definition of the word could used in paragraph one and two. My definition is; I don't know if this is true or not.
I don't use the Oklahoman because I can buy better toilet paper than that. All they are about is scare tactics for the sole purpose of pandering to their owners agenda.
The only thing that scares me is what is this country going to be like 50 years from now.


I know nothing about an article from the Oklahman but will look and read it just the same. Articles are just references to me to help find the facts that support it.

"Could" means exactly that! It may or it may not happen but...
"Is Already Happening" means it is already happening and growing!

Whether you believe what I posted will or not happen is totally irrelevent to me, one way or the other. When I see it happening and am told it is a growing trend, then I simply take that under advisement and watch to see what happens, that simple.

It is beyond debatable to me and "if" has been removed and replace with "how big of a trend will it become" when Doctors realize they make more for less overhead dealing with all the redtape and cut in pay. Now I will simply watch and see.

The Patient gets back what ever the insurance pays or... Find their ass another Doctor, lol.

Here is a leftwing news source or just Google:
Why Doctors are going to a cash only basis
...and pick one or several for that matter.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/11/news/economy/...
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44190 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>If you had no insurance when your husband got sick, do you think his chances of survival would have been the same?
Probably not but I do not feel guilty because we had health ins. Starting out nothing was handed to us. I was working, My husband was working, and when had our first child my husband took on a part time job to make ends meet. Our health ins. was a bill like house payment, utility bills auto ins, and food and it got paid for just like the other before we bought anything extra.
Now do you health insurance? If so should I be as snarly to you? If the government doesn't come up with a plan to get more doctors on board to be primary doctors everyone is going to be in a world of hurt as far as getting quality health care. That is what I am saying when I say that doctors are going to be hit with an over load of patients and it may take a long wait time in seeing one.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44191 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Those were the good old days. To bad your money is more important than your health today.
You side stepped my question to YOU! What do you mean by saying to me 'To bad your money is more important than your health today."?

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Altus Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Mary bohannon from mangum Jan 15 realist 4
Forrest Ray (Nov '15) Jan 14 Cranky old fart 8
Prego Jan 5 ambush annie 2
Election Who do you support for State House in Oklahoma ... (Oct '10) Dec 19 As I see it 6
billy raulston (Jun '17) Dec 19 Guy 3
Jackson County Sex Offenders! (Apr '09) Dec '17 Blair Born 26
Chris Ybarra (Apr '14) Dec '17 DeeDeebruce55 21

Altus Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Altus Mortgages