4 Killed In Collision Near Altus

4 Killed In Collision Near Altus

There are 281 comments on the News on 6 Tulsa story from Apr 24, 2009, titled 4 Killed In Collision Near Altus. In it, News on 6 Tulsa reports that:

Four people, including three children, died when a Jeep pulled in front of a tractor-trailer in Jackson County on Friday morning.

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tnikster

Owasso, OK

#21 Apr 25, 2009
what wrote:
Hate me if u want i dont care. but if i was Ruby i wouldnt want to live after losing my whole family.
i agree. i wouldnt want to either. so sad :(
dumokie

United States

#22 Apr 25, 2009
SoDak Dad wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, you certainly do have the right to say what you want. My point is that you religious peeps FLOOD the comment sections with "god blesses" and "my prayers" and "better places." Why can't you just express condolences and then say your prayers in private? Why do you force us to read them? I don't force you to read anything except my condolences to the family. I never say "praise satan" or "satan wins again" do I? I am tempted to start saying "yay - satan wins again!" from now on every time I see a god comment. I'll bet I can start a movement. There are many people who tsk tsk and shake their heads in sympathy for the children of god-believers but they tend to stay quiet as a result of their higher intelligence.
So it comes down to intelligence eh. Believer dumb, nonbelievers smart. I don't want to pop your bubble but through out the ages many intelligent scholars have argued on both sides of this issue with out thinking the other side was stupid.
No what we have here is a man that has been hurt by a parent that was a believer. Or you have lost a friend or loved one and prayed for them and GOD didn't give you the answer you wanted. So now you hate what believers have, PEACE.
I hope you find some help,so as you can cope with the difficulties that life will hand you and your family.

“Non-Prophet”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#23 Apr 25, 2009
dumokie wrote:
<quoted text> So it comes down to intelligence eh. Believer dumb, nonbelievers smart. I don't want to pop your bubble but through out the ages many intelligent scholars have argued on both sides of this issue with out thinking the other side was stupid.
No what we have here is a man that has been hurt by a parent that was a believer. Or you have lost a friend or loved one and prayed for them and GOD didn't give you the answer you wanted. So now you hate what believers have, PEACE.
I hope you find some help,so as you can cope with the difficulties that life will hand you and your family.
Thank you for your insightful speculation. Actually, you're wrong. I haven't been disillusioned in any way. I have peace within me and I am comfortable with the realities of life. Nothing supernatural is "tugging" at my heart. I am raising my children to believe in themselves, not a father-figure that watches silently from the clouds. I surround my children with love and hugs and I never allow all three of them to be in one vehicle.
dumokie

United States

#24 Apr 25, 2009
SoDak Dad wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for your insightful speculation. Actually, you're wrong. I haven't been disillusioned in any way. I have peace within me and I am comfortable with the realities of life. Nothing supernatural is "tugging" at my heart. I am raising my children to believe in themselves, not a father-figure that watches silently from the clouds. I surround my children with love and hugs and I never allow all three of them to be in one vehicle.
I'm sorry but I am having a hard time typing this with out laughing. You say your not disillusioned in any way, but your last sentence points to you being dillussional. In that you won't put all of your three kids a car at the same time? Your right there is not a church that can help you. You need a shrink. Do you hear voices by chance?LOL
Upstream

Tulsa, OK

#25 Apr 25, 2009
Coasters wrote:
How sad... a whole family wiped out because someone didn't stop at a stop sign... I am seeing more stop sign running here in the city of Tulsa... it is scarey that people do not think more of their life than that
Or the lives of others....

“Taste the Rainbow”

Since: Jul 08

United States

#26 Apr 25, 2009
This is terrible! That poor mother and truck driver. I couldn't imagine. May they somehow find comfort during this difficult time.

“Taste the Rainbow”

Since: Jul 08

United States

#27 Apr 25, 2009
SoDak Dad wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for your insightful speculation. Actually, you're wrong. I haven't been disillusioned in any way. I have peace within me and I am comfortable with the realities of life. Nothing supernatural is "tugging" at my heart. I am raising my children to believe in themselves, not a father-figure that watches silently from the clouds. I surround my children with love and hugs and I never allow all three of them to be in one vehicle.
So what happens when u go for a long drive say perhaps to another state? Do u have your children flip coins or draw straws to see who goes?

That's just ridiculous.
AD1C27

United States

#28 Apr 25, 2009
MSDT wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you nonbelievers take the time to argue about Someone you don't believe exists? Do you argue about the tooth fairy, Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny? How can a "non-existant being" have his own son tortured and killed? Why is it so important to you to prove to us He doesn't exist? Do you expend so much energy on Santa? The fact that you argue about God would imply to me that you DO know He exists, but you are angry with Him. I believe we are ALL born with the knowledge He exists. Some people CHOOSE to deny Him later in life. He doesn't let go of His loved ones easily, so He continues to "tug at" their hearts and brains and that is why they become angry and so strenuously deny Him. But He doesn't give up. He wants everyone to know Him. God does not cause bad things to happen. You see, it goes way back to when Satan thought he was as good as God. Satan was kicked out of Heaven and he was given reign over the earth; his chance to prove his superiority. God has reign over Heaven. Therefore, bad things happen on earth, and death does not exist in Heaven. Those children died tragically as did their father. Everyone dies on earth. All of us at some point will die. But those of us who know Him will live eternally in Heaven. Our bodies are kind of like an apartment complex to us. We are renting here. Someday, we will go Home. Death is kind of like moving to us. Of course we all want to live just like you do. None of us look forward to death. God gave us a desire to live; a self preservation instinct, so we would stay here and do His work. Part of our job is to lead others to Him as he doesn't want to lose anyone. But rest assured those children are out of the rule of satan on earth now. No more tragedy or harm can befall them. They are in Heaven where tragedy doesn't exist. They are with God.
There is NO proof that there is any being of this magnitude, look at your own spritual ways the preachers asking for money and things they need to buy cars and nightly girls. Geez, your spirit comes from the heart not an outside source. This is why Martin Luther started his true comings, didn't like the christian guilt trips they impose on people, some are born to be lambs and some are born to lead, I am born to lead not to follow. If this was all true we be in harmony, but nope get real church people (I mean lambs)... This family has a long effect tradgey, she needs the support of her close family and friends.

“Non-Prophet”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#29 Apr 25, 2009
dumokie wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry but I am having a hard time typing this with out laughing. You say your not disillusioned in any way, but your last sentence points to you being dillussional. In that you won't put all of your three kids a car at the same time? Your right there is not a church that can help you. You need a shrink. Do you hear voices by chance?LOL
I'm glad that you find humor in life. I do too! No, I don't hear voices. Why would you think I would? The reason I don't allow all three of my children in the car is because of accidents like this one in which ALL the mother's children died. That is an impossibility for me or my wife, the mother of our children. You go ahead and be a sheep to the auto industry. And to answer JustaRandomGirl - we never drive long distances. Why would we? When you become a parent, you give up certain liberties. Protection of the children becomes the number one priority. I bought a house within walking distance of the park, the hospital, and the elementary school (and unfortunately, two crutches, oops, I mean churches).
Paramedic

Tucson, AZ

#30 Apr 25, 2009
SoDak Dad---
It is disturbing that you have taken this opportunity to turn a tragic situation, of which you have no tie to, and make it about you. Selfish, narcissistic, egotistical, delusional and self righteous are a few adjectives regarding your personality that come to mind after reading your posts. Just shut up already. Believe whatever you want, but find an ounce of class so you'll know where it's appropriate to voice your ideologies, however antiquated and weak they are.
My deepest sympathies to the family of those we've lost, may they rest in peace.

“Non-Prophet”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#31 Apr 25, 2009
dumokie wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry but I am having a hard time typing this with out laughing. You say your not disillusioned in any way, but your last sentence points to you being dillussional. In that you won't put all of your three kids a car at the same time? Your right there is not a church that can help you. You need a shrink. Do you hear voices by chance?LOL
I usually don't mention spelling and grammar, but my goodness, dumokie, learn to spell. You lose all credibility when you misspell so many words. Learning a few punctuation rules wouldn't hurt either. It must make you so mad to hear comments about your grammar. Do you pray for the people that make you mad? Please tell me the exact words you use in your prayer for the people that make you mad. I thank you in advance. I promise you that if you don't pray for me, a god won't punish you. You'll be fine. Have faith in yourself. You are actually your own god. Isn't that amazing?

“Non-Prophet”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#32 Apr 25, 2009
Paramedic wrote:
SoDak Dad---
It is disturbing that you have taken this opportunity to turn a tragic situation, of which you have no tie to, and make it about you. Selfish, narcissistic, egotistical, delusional and self righteous are a few adjectives regarding your personality that come to mind after reading your posts. Just shut up already. Believe whatever you want, but find an ounce of class so you'll know where it's appropriate to voice your ideologies, however antiquated and weak they are.
My deepest sympathies to the family of those we've lost, may they rest in peace.
There is absolutely no doubt that you are a christian. I feel so sorry for your children. I didn't use this forum to talk about me - I simply expressed my viewpoint that god-believers use tragic situations to spread their buy bull and they couldn't resist responding. I had expressed my sincere condolences and I was ready to move on but you religiots kept poking me. There is no such thing as resting in peace. Is it possible to rest in turmoil? Those beautiful children are dead. Unnecessarily dead because of a father losing concentration. They are neither resting in peace nor resting in turmoil. They are dead. Is telling me to "shut up" a christian way of responding to another human? Would your god be proud of you for speaking that way? Do you talk that way to your children? I don't talk that way to my children. They have never heard me say "shut up" and my oldest is six.

“Taste the Rainbow”

Since: Jul 08

United States

#33 Apr 25, 2009
SoDak Dad wrote:
<quoted text>
I usually don't mention spelling and grammar, but my goodness, dumokie, learn to spell. You lose all credibility when you misspell so many words. Learning a few punctuation rules wouldn't hurt either. It must make you so mad to hear comments about your grammar. Do you pray for the people that make you mad? Please tell me the exact words you use in your prayer for the people that make you mad. I thank you in advance. I promise you that if you don't pray for me, a god won't punish you. You'll be fine. Have faith in yourself. You are actually your own god. Isn't that amazing?
I don't think anyone is trying to cram their beliefs down your throat, so stop trying to do it to all if us. U are strange. But to each his own.

“Non-Prophet”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#34 Apr 25, 2009
JustaRandomGirl wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think anyone is trying to cram their beliefs down your throat, so stop trying to do it to all if us. U are strange. But to each his own.
Thank you. My sincere condolences to the mother and the extended family.
paramedic

Tucson, AZ

#35 Apr 25, 2009
SoDak Dad wrote:
<quoted text>
There is absolutely no doubt that you are a christian. I feel so sorry for your children. I didn't use this forum to talk about me - I simply expressed my viewpoint that god-believers use tragic situations to spread their buy bull and they couldn't resist responding. I had expressed my sincere condolences and I was ready to move on but you religiots kept poking me. There is no such thing as resting in peace. Is it possible to rest in turmoil? Those beautiful children are dead. Unnecessarily dead because of a father losing concentration. They are neither resting in peace nor resting in turmoil. They are dead. Is telling me to "shut up" a christian way of responding to another human? Would your god be proud of you for speaking that way? Do you talk that way to your children? I don't talk that way to my children. They have never heard me say "shut up" and my oldest is six.
Your children should call DHS and request a stable environment to be housed in. I'll worry about what God thinks of me on judgment day. In the mean time, I will pray for your soul and those of your family. All I'm required to do, as a christian, is ensure you are at least made aware of a higher power and you are free to choose after that. I lived in a foreign country for 8 years as a missionaries child for that reason alone. If the term "shut up" angers you then let's change it to "be silent". Wording doesn't change my point. This is not the correct forum for your religious opinions. I wasn't aware you were at the crash site and knew he "lost concentration." Perhaps he had a seizure, suffered a stroke while driving, or his blood sugar got low.... numerous things can cause an accident. That is why there are referred to as accidents. As for my children, worry not... as for yours... worry lots!! Until we meet on the other side... bless you, your family, and those we've lost. Best wishes.
from the flood family

United States

#36 Apr 25, 2009
we would like to take the time to say thanks for your thoughts and prayers even if some people dont think they help they really do itv gives us the strength to keep going keep praying we need all the prayers we can get love flood family
from the flood family

United States

#37 Apr 25, 2009
Also we are very disturbed. That our tragedy has opened a forum for some peoples religous debates. Rather than good thoughts to maybe help our family to move on. And as far as Ruby goes she is a born fighter. She is not willing to just give up. And all her strength comes from her church and beliefs. So I say to you please keep your comments about religion. In a religous debate chat room.

“Non-Prophet”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#38 Apr 25, 2009
paramedic wrote:
<quoted text>
Your children should call DHS and request a stable environment to be housed in. I'll worry about what God thinks of me on judgment day. In the mean time, I will pray for your soul and those of your family. All I'm required to do, as a christian, is ensure you are at least made aware of a higher power and you are free to choose after that. I lived in a foreign country for 8 years as a missionaries child for that reason alone. If the term "shut up" angers you then let's change it to "be silent". Wording doesn't change my point. This is not the correct forum for your religious opinions. I wasn't aware you were at the crash site and knew he "lost concentration." Perhaps he had a seizure, suffered a stroke while driving, or his blood sugar got low.... numerous things can cause an accident. That is why there are referred to as accidents. As for my children, worry not... as for yours... worry lots!! Until we meet on the other side... bless you, your family, and those we've lost. Best wishes.
It is interesting that you are chastising me for voicing my "religious opinions" when it is you god-fearers that relentlessly post 'god bless's and 'better place now's and 'god needed another angel's. I never force my religious opinions on anyone. I simply respond to your rude assumption that people want to hear your buy bull. Why do you think my children should call DHS? How odd! I love my children dearly. My two boys are uncircumsised - I am astounded that parents subject their babies to that torture. I feed my children real food that I cook myself, salmon and vegetables, etc, instead of fast food and chips. I have a smoke detector in every room in my house, not just the livingroom like most parents. I hug and smooch my children every day and I look in their eyes and tell them I love them bigger than the sky. I wake up in the middle of the night and make sure their blankets are on. Who are you to tell me I'm a bad parent just because I don't feel the need to believe in a supernatural magical non-existent being? The day will come when there will be no more fear of a vindictive god that opens the earth or releases plagues killing millions just because your "father who art in heaven" is angry. I believe that it is child abuse to force children to go to church before they're old enough to make a rational decision about religion. Please do not pray for me or my family. The thought of you praying for us makes me nauseous.

“Non-Prophet”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#39 Apr 25, 2009
AD1C27 wrote:
<quoted text>
There is NO proof that there is any being of this magnitude, look at your own spritual ways the preachers asking for money and things they need to buy cars and nightly girls. Geez, your spirit comes from the heart not an outside source. This is why Martin Luther started his true comings, didn't like the christian guilt trips they impose on people, some are born to be lambs and some are born to lead, I am born to lead not to follow. If this was all true we be in harmony, but nope get real church people (I mean lambs)... This family has a long effect tradgey, she needs the support of her close family and friends.
Thank you for posting. It is always nice to have the high side of the bell curve post a comment. My condolences to the mother and the extended family.

“Non-Prophet”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#40 Apr 25, 2009
from the flood family wrote:
we would like to take the time to say thanks for your thoughts and prayers even if some people dont think they help they really do itv gives us the strength to keep going keep praying we need all the prayers we can get love flood family
from the flood family wrote:
Also we are very disturbed. That our tragedy has opened a forum for some peoples religous debates. Rather than good thoughts to maybe help our family to move on. And as far as Ruby goes she is a born fighter. She is not willing to just give up. And all her strength comes from her church and beliefs. So I say to you please keep your comments about religion. In a religous debate chat room.
Hmmm, I'm just suspicious about this. These two comments don't seem to have come from the same Flood family member. There you go - christians up to misleading hijinks again! My sincere condolences to the true Flood family for this awful tragedy. One can only hope that time can heal wounds.

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