Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 60022 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#32706 Oct 21, 2012
Wanna lose an election? Then just keep threatening the voter’s kids with CO2 deaths.
*In three debates so far, Obama hasn’t mentioned climate change once.
*Obama has not mentioned the crisis in the last two State of the Unions addresses.
*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets run by corporations.
*Julian Assange is of course a climate change denier.
*Canada killed Y2Kyoto with a freely elected climate change denying prime minister and nobody cared, especially the millions of scientists warning us of unstoppable warming (a comet hit).
*Not one single IPCC warning of crisis isn’t peppered with “maybes” and “could bes” etc.
*Help my house is on fire maybe? But you lab coats said we are at the brink of no return, maybe?
*Climate Change Science and its 26 years of needless panic is the new Reefer Madness.
PHD

Houston, TX

#32707 Oct 21, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Nice try but the only friend you have is your care giver. Have you seen your care giver today?
All my friends are care givers. If you had any friends you would have said yes to the question.So sad you have no friends but understandable. The reason you have no friends is due to your useless babble tainted with hate covered with spam cut and paste hot air. Now take your meds with a long nap. Hay maybe you could go out a purchase a friend so you could also have someone that cares. Hay another clue if you gave back then maybe you could also have a giver.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#32708 Oct 21, 2012
Before voting, make sure to check out, MITT ROMNEY'S JOBS PLAN FOR AMERICA... www.bainport.com
PHD

Houston, TX

#32709 Oct 21, 2012
Well it looks like a case of etch a sketch kill big bird romneysia.
liza

Philippi, WV

#32710 Oct 21, 2012
I just READ ONE of your comments that was written in '08, and laughted out loud..."Why don't we
just put gasoline to $5.00 a gal."!? IT is now
2012 and you know it hit your mark.....Happy?
Gees, you can look into the future and see what
has happened. Still laughting....Thanks.
Get out and vote ...no guessing as to how what
you will do...Have a good next 4 yrs.
can't stop laughting.........maybe in a year or two
you can see it go to eight or ten? When it was
$1.78 you were yelling . four yrs ago..
Bad bad old days...right
SpaceBlues

United States

#32711 Oct 21, 2012
liza wrote:
I just READ ONE of your comments that was written in '08, and laughted out loud..."Why don't we
just put gasoline to $5.00 a gal."!? IT is now
2012 and you know it hit your mark.....Happy?
Gees, you can look into the future and see what
has happened. Still laughting....Thanks.
Get out and vote ...no guessing as to how what
you will do...Have a good next 4 yrs.
can't stop laughting.........maybe in a year or two
you can see it go to eight or ten? When it was
$1.78 you were yelling . four yrs ago..
Bad bad old days...right
Right, bad bad old days.

Here's the scoop. Now pay attention: the highest gas price occurred under the Bush management

http://zfacts.com/gas-price-history-graph

See the spike in 1988. Then Bush (GOP) destroyed the economy before the Obama election, the price sank, of course. See it?

SpaceBlues

United States

#32712 Oct 21, 2012
Correct:
liza wrote:
I just READ ONE of your comments that was written in '08, and laughted out loud..."Why don't we
just put gasoline to $5.00 a gal."!? IT is now
2012 and you know it hit your mark.....Happy?
Gees, you can look into the future and see what
has happened. Still laughting....Thanks.
Get out and vote ...no guessing as to how what
you will do...Have a good next 4 yrs.
can't stop laughting.........maybe in a year or two
you can see it go to eight or ten? When it was
$1.78 you were yelling . four yrs ago..
Bad bad old days...right
Right, bad bad old days.

Here's the scoop. Now pay attention: the highest gas price occurred under the Bush management

http://zfacts.com/gas-price-history-graph

See the spike in 2008. Then Bush (GOP) destroyed the economy before the Obama election, the price sank, of course. See it?

litesong

Everett, WA

#32713 Oct 21, 2012
litesong wrote:
This week, Arctic sea ice, either by satellite or submarine data, is above the 2007 Arctic sea ice extent AND the sea ice average for the decade of 2000's, at 6,219,375 km2 (October 19, 2012), the day's sea ice increase, Iowa sized. The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for ~one month, temperatures above the 80th parallel, lower than the last two weeks of dates for 2007 & other recent years, & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean as low as -20 degC. Even Dawson, Canada, south of the Arctic Circle & site of a heatwave 3 weeks ago, where temperatures were 22+degC, is presently -24degC! Fairbanks is -19degC.
Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent.
//////////
litesong continues
Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is tied with 2007 AND 2011 sea ice extent for yesterday's date & is above the average minimum Arctic sea ice extent for the 2000's, at 6,433,281 km2 (October 20, 2012), today's sea ice blow-up the size of Kansas!! All areas of the Arctic Ice Pack advance southward, with a great & broad advance from the west of Northwest Passage almost to northern Alaska! Temperatures above the 80th parallel average -18 degC, the past 2 weeks of temperatures below the same weeks of 2007 & other recent years. Present temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean, are way below freezing, numerous areas deepening into minus double digits AND THE EVER BROADENING SWATH OF CONTINUOUS SIBERIAN TEMPS as low as -25 degC!
Arctic Ice Pack is very close to the Russian islands, Franz Joseph Land & Svalbard. Sea ice connected to the islands is strongly developing around the islands(connecting one set of Russian islands to the mainland). Arctic Ice Pack is extending far south into the vast clear waters north of Alaska & Siberia. Huge sea ice floes strongly developed in the vast clear waters north of Siberia(due to broad double digit minus Siberian temps spilled from North Pole month-long darkness & vortex mixing breaking down stratified solar heated waters?) AND connected the Ice Pack to far eastern Siberia, truly a remarkable development!

A detail noted 11 days ago is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern? Such a vast swirl at such a huge scale would be impossible...... wouldn't it?
Ten days ago, noted near the raggy taggy ice pack, have developed 3 tiny pixel ice floes(arced?), separated from the Arctic ice pack toward southerly directions. Nine days ago, the number of ice floes increased to 8 & indeed they formed an ARC. Pretty sure they represent a large scale vortex in open Arctic water! Further data, show that the vortex is true!

The east end of Northwest Passage is fairly ice free, tho recent temperatures in the area are deep into the double digit minus numbers. It should ice fairly soon AND does show faintly today.

Downwellings in unusual clear Arctic waters, normally sea ice covered in decades past, can be transporting only traces of extra solar energy to continental shelf, Arctic Ocean & sea depths, since the sun is fully set 24 hours a day, north of the 80th parallel. Southern Arctic waters get only a skimming from the sun for a few hours a day, which is only double digit degrees off the horizon, at most!
PHD

Houston, TX

#32714 Oct 22, 2012
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
PHD.... I disagree. If dirtling's caregiver was his friend, dirtling would show improvement.
Well there is always the next day. Maybe the dirtling could pay someone to be its friend? Good point the dirtling doesn’t have a care giver and no friends. Hold on the dirtling does have a friend it’s the Less than a Box of Rocks AKA "tina"

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#32716 Oct 25, 2012
Science has betrayed its own warnings of crisis:
The millions of people in the global scientific community that are not reacting to the world walking away from their crisis "warnings", proves climate change was just an exaggeration.
*In all of the debates so far, Obama hasn’t planned to mention climate change once.
*Obama has not mentioned the crisis in the last two State of the Unions addresses.
*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets run by corporations.
*Julian Assange is of course a climate change denier.
*Canada killed Y2Kyoto with a freely elected climate change denying prime minister and nobody cared, especially the millions of scientists warning us of unstoppable warming (a comet hit).
Science needs to step up to the plate and be honest with us.
PHD

Houston, TX

#32718 Oct 25, 2012
mememine69 wrote:
Science has betrayed its own warnings of crisis:
The millions of people in the global scientific community that are not reacting to the world walking away from their crisis "warnings", proves climate change was just an exaggeration.
*In all of the debates so far, Obama hasn’t planned to mention climate change once.
*Obama has not mentioned the crisis in the last two State of the Unions addresses.
*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets run by corporations.
*Julian Assange is of course a climate change denier.
*Canada killed Y2Kyoto with a freely elected climate change denying prime minister and nobody cared, especially the millions of scientists warning us of unstoppable warming (a comet hit).
Science needs to step up to the plate and be honest with us.
And then there is romnesia.
SpaceBlues

United States

#32719 Oct 25, 2012
Now pay attention: the highest gas price occurred under the Bush management

http://zfacts.com/gas-price-history-graph

See the spike in 2008. Then Bush (GOP) messed up the economy before the Obama election, the price sank, of course. See it?

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#32722 Oct 26, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
Now pay attention: the highest gas price occurred under the Bush management
http://zfacts.com/gas-price-history-graph
See the spike in 2008. Then Bush (GOP) messed up the economy before the Obama election, the price sank, of course. See it?
Yes, also notice the difference between 2000-08 vs 2009-12. Also notice that spike in 2008 was later in the year when it looked like Obama was going to win the election. There is another graph I wished I could show you showing how investors were pulling money out of the US markets and moving it overseas out of Obama's reach.

I know you are trying to prove that it was Bush's fault. But all you ended up doing was proving it was Obama's fault for the high gas prices.

Also notice how the unemployment and underemployment numbers shot up starting in October of 2008. Remember that people who invest are looking months and years out. They already have a plan worked out if Romeny wins and one if Obama wins. The difference is that if Romney wins they will start moving capital back to the US and energy prices will fall. With Obama they will not move capital back to the US and look to park it someone safe for the next four years. Right now it is looking closer than they like.

Of course you will whine about fair just as if Romeny wins you will complain that it is the result of cheating.
litesong

Everett, WA

#32723 Oct 26, 2012
tiny-minded anne wrote:
....spike in 2008 was later in the year when it looked like Obama was going to win the election.
Nah..... you don't get away with that BS.

The economy was failing in latter 2007, & even before. New car purchases were crumbling. People were left with no transportation when their cars broke down & they had no money to repair them. Major increases in Public Transportation had started, despite the usual worthlessness of PT. Total miles traveled in the U.S. had declined 5%, by the beginning of 2008. 5% doesn't sound like much, but for the american people, the lack of transport is a major blood loss. Before the first quarter of 2008 was over, large new car purchases had collapsed & a full one fifth of new truck purchases had gone away, without an increase in small car purchases.

'tiny-minded anne' proves her worthlessness & her bias.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#32725 Oct 26, 2012
Obama is scaring away capital? Not according to this chart.

http://chartsbin.com/view/2222
PHD

Shreveport, LA

#32726 Oct 28, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, also notice the difference between 2000-08 vs 2009-12. Also notice that spike in 2008 was later in the year when it looked like Obama was going to win the election. There is another graph I wished I could show you showing how investors were pulling money out of the US markets and moving it overseas out of Obama's reach.
I know you are trying to prove that it was Bush's fault. But all you ended up doing was proving it was Obama's fault for the high gas prices.
Also notice how the unemployment and underemployment numbers shot up starting in October of 2008. Remember that people who invest are looking months and years out. They already have a plan worked out if Romeny wins and one if Obama wins. The difference is that if Romney wins they will start moving capital back to the US and energy prices will fall. With Obama they will not move capital back to the US and look to park it someone safe for the next four years. Right now it is looking closer than they like.
Of course you will whine about fair just as if Romeny wins you will complain that it is the result of cheating.
Is there no end to your stupid?The result of your stupid is due to the emotinedd between your ears. Now Less than a Box of Rocks go back to school start at Pre K level and pay attention this time.

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#32727 Oct 28, 2012
Remaining Doomers:
Looks like the politicians have backed off supporting CO2 mitigation. Now what?
Now its up to you remaing doomers to pick up the torch and march with the dozens of climate blame protesters all over the world. YOU can save the world. Now get out there and prove to us that even YOU believe in the end of the world from SUV gas.
SpaceBlues

United States

#32728 Oct 28, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Is there no end to your stupid?The result of your stupid is due to the emotinedd between your ears. Now Less than a Box of Rocks go back to school start at Pre K level and pay attention this time.
Go easy with tina.

She lives in a state of emergency. And she has things to do, hopefully.
SpaceBlues

United States

#32729 Oct 28, 2012
mememine69 wrote:
Remaining Doomers:
Looks like the politicians have backed off supporting CO2 mitigation. Now what?
Now its up to you remaing doomers to pick up the torch and march with the dozens of climate blame protesters all over the world. YOU can save the world. Now get out there and prove to us that even YOU believe in the end of the world from SUV gas.
It looks like you are the last denier left.

Stay indoors before the weather gets you, too.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#32730 Oct 28, 2012
mememine69 wrote:
Remaining Doomers:
Looks like the politicians have backed off supporting CO2 mitigation. Now what?
Now its up to you remaing doomers to pick up the torch and march with the dozens of climate blame protesters all over the world. YOU can save the world. Now get out there and prove to us that even YOU believe in the end of the world from SUV gas.
The only alarmists left are the squeaky voices whining about an end of world scenario, the same set of voices who whine about the rich getting richer.

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