Should MG County create a Central 911 center?

[Something]

We could just have consolidated Law Enforcement services. There are other counties that have only one law enforcement agency for the entire county. Look at the money Caney and Cherryvale spend on its law enforcement and they aren't adequately staffed what if they consolidated with SO? I know its the pride on having your own, but what if it could be more effective and more professional and have standards? Even take IPD/CPD/CPD/CPD/SO and consolidated its not impossible its being done all over the country, would MG cnty ever do it probably not. But those that do have a large staff of LEOs very good in training/equipment and standards makes better officers their not being overworked and salaries bring in better candidates..

[Last Stand]

Something wrote:

We could just have consolidated Law Enforcement services. There are other counties that have only one law enforcement agency for the entire county. Look at the money Caney and Cherryvale spend on its law enforcement and they aren't adequately staffed what if they consolidated with SO? I know its the pride on having your own, but what if it could be more effective and more professional and have standards? Even take IPD/CPD/CPD/CPD/SO and consolidated its not impossible its being done all over the country, would MG cnty ever do it probably not. But those that do have a large staff of LEOs very good in training/equipment and standards makes better officers their not being overworked and salaries bring in better candidates..

I take it you have not Done your home work on the Constitution very well. The Sheriff is one of the last strong hold on the Constitution in America. By having a Consolidated Police Dept. you are taking the democratic process out of the process of electing a Sheriff. The commissoners will hire a Police Commissioner and it will be the same as having a City Manager. This Form of Government is a "Socialist Type Of Government" and one that is not a representative of the people they serve. If you do not like this person you cannot vote him or her out of office every four years.

Food for thought remember Leroy Alsup Need I Say More.

[Something]

The person hired would be qualified vie education and experience. We should have a Sheriff that lasts 12-20 years, having a higher turnover only hurts the people. If its from a POS sheriff then the next one has to come in and clean things up what the last one corrupted before they can even begin. You should not vote someone in if you only want them for four years. It would be the same as the chief polices now, the people don't have any say.
We still could have the sheriffs department as the main LE agency for caney and cherryvale. You can listen just about everyday a deputy has to go to one of those towns to help witch I am for but its usually only b/c those towns only have one officer out..

[LOL]

Leroy Alsup says enough for me!!!
I don't see anything wrong with the way things are now as far as all the departments. If everyone would work together, like one big team effort,(the way it should be) it would run a lot smoother and ALL us citizens would benefit. Hence that Veach be voted OUT and we get someone in there that WILL be a TEAM player, not a SELF player!!

[911 issues]

Was interesting to read yesterdays Independence Reporter story in regards to 911, Emerg. Management director Jim Miller is saying that the current system is not NIMS compliant, and needs to be centralized in order to be so. It would be funny, but I really think he actually believes it's true!

Nims compliance in regards to communications deals with communications at an incident scene, NOT the DISPATCH intities, FEMA only asks that when engaged in incident response using ICS, plain language is required. The value of using 10-codes for simplicity and speed is lost when members of the response team are unaware of their meanings, as may occur in a multi-jurisdiction / multi-agency response event. As 10-codes used in one jurisdiction, or agency, are not the same as those used in another, it is important that responders and incident managers use common terminology to prevent misunderstanding in an emergency situation. While plain English is not required for internal operations, it is encouraged over 10-codes to promote familiarity within operational procedures used in emergencies.

I hope Nr. Miller can come up with a better argument when trying to combine services in the future, a move that currently offers nothing in the resemblance of an improvement to the population of Montgomery County.

[Something]

Yep everyone does need to just get along. But when every agency in the county's running on bare minimum personnel, they all aren't being very fare to the citizens. If everyone would hire an adequate force then everyone would not need backup everyday then I think a lot of tension would be released. But yes when Stan tells his deputies not to assist, now to assist to make him look good again, thats gotta go we've had enough four years of this wishy washy crap.

[Something]

We have 6 dispatching locations now in the county. In a large scale event and use of NIMS and FEMA coming in wouldn't it be better for them to only go to one dispatch center to get all valuable information? Yes I know they would go to the info tent to get info but to relay info they need dispatchers. Right now all 6 hold info from each other. If they are in IPD they would talk to them go south at talk to CPD, if they were together they could talk to the same person and everyone would be informed.

[NIMS Fan]

911 issues wrote:

Was interesting to read yesterdays Independence Reporter story in regards to 911, Emerg. Management director Jim Miller is saying that the current system is not NIMS compliant, and needs to be centralized in order to be so. It would be funny, but I really think he actually believes it's true!
Nims compliance in regards to communications deals with communications at an incident scene, NOT the DISPATCH intities, FEMA only asks that when engaged in incident response using ICS, plain language is required. The value of using 10-codes for simplicity and speed is lost when members of the response team are unaware of their meanings, as may occur in a multi-jurisdiction / multi-agency response event. As 10-codes used in one jurisdiction, or agency, are not the same as those used in another, it is important that responders and incident managers use common terminology to prevent misunderstanding in an emergency situation. While plain English is not required for internal operations, it is encouraged over 10-codes to promote familiarity within operational procedures used in emergencies.
I hope Nr. Miller can come up with a better argument when trying to combine services in the future, a move that currently offers nothing in the resemblance of an improvement to the population of Montgomery County.

Ole Jim Miller is a Bulls**tter from way back and that sounds like something he would pull.

[911 issues]

Something wrote:

We have 6 dispatching locations now in the county. In a large scale event and use of NIMS and FEMA coming in wouldn't it be better for them to only go to one dispatch center to get all valuable information? Yes I know they would go to the info tent to get info but to relay info they need dispatchers. Right now all 6 hold info from each other. If they are in IPD they would talk to them go south at talk to CPD, if they were together they could talk to the same person and everyone would be informed.

In theroy, yes.

A lot of emphasis is being put on the (incorrect) fact that the CPD and IPD dispatchers are not sharing information with the SO Dispatch, and that, if true would be awful, but the truth is, CPD, all the time can be heard via scannerland talking directly to the SO by radio on the SO frequency advising the SO that Coffeyville EMS/Rescue 1 is enroute to an accident on 169 for example, immediately following CPD paging them out, and the same, IPD pages out something similar on the north end, The SO advises their deputies that IPD has dispatched so and so to a location in the county, same with Cherryvale, who always contacts the Sheriff dispatch on the sheriffs frequency telling them where they are going and the nature of the call.

Thing is, there really isnt a lack of communication between the dispatch agencies, the lack of cooperation between the department heads is the REAL issue, the subordinates, ie deputies, dispatchers, fireman, ems, and police officers ALL communicate with each other, it's the department heads that arent talking, sad but true, what is more sad, is the public is being lied to and being told there is a problem, when the only problem is the power struggle going on between the folks "in charge".

[Scanner Tracker MG CNTY]

CPD and IPD at times more than often contact SO, yes CPD is vie radio is how I hear it. IPD must be more by phone. I heard SO could not get IPDs frequency to transmit on.? only hear IPD and SO on SO frequency. But everyone can't monitor each other all the time. They simply can't when theres any type of call load.
The truth is that SO sends deputies out on possible fires without contacting a PD to send a fire department. And structures and property have been lost because of this. Same with possible gas odors and unknown car wrecks (if injury or not). IF the call goes into SO, SO does not more than often contact a PD to send a fire department. Its not just IPD CPD not sharing info, SO doesn't share it back nor contact the proper departments that needs to respond, that is probably do to a lack of policy by the SO.
Also you have to hear a deputy get notified after a fire department is done with their business and back to their station some time lapse.. Not everything is smooth rolling. Yes it works, I agree it should not be fixed if the fix is not going to fix the big scale problem.
Cherryvale PD acts like a SO, b/c SO usually doesn't have anyone in the area same with caney area. those two PDs send their units out into the county to find things. Sounds like SO needs more road deputies out.

[911 issues]

I was pleased to read the article in the Independence Reporter about IPD Chief Parker inviting officials to visit and observe the 911 dispatch center in Independence. Commissioner Lewark-Wood had said during Monday's Commission meeting that she understood calls were not being rolled over to the Sheriff's office, a false comment that Parker took exception with.

I can only imagine where the eronious information told to Commissioner Lewark-Wood came from, but it's only speculation.

Kudos to IPD Chief Parker for speaking up and saying "come see for yourself"!

[MG RES]

I think the commissioners should go to every dispatch location and watch what they do for a short time. And just see how each one is set up, IE someone call the Dispatch on a "mock call" just so they see whats done. go to IPD< CPD<CPD<CPD<SO North,South. To that I think they should show everyone who is interested in it. Open it up to the public one day and tour the county to see it in operation. And see if they think any consolidation could take place.

[911 how can I help]

We are a small county and don't know why everyone just can't work together. I am open for a 911 center and they way it is now, someone needs to look at the benefits of each one and then decided. But coming out of the blue makes no since. I could see where SO could do Caney and Cherryvale it would only seem to me that those two towns are spending a lot of money for personnel and equipment. But for SO to do anything they need STAFF one in dispatch won't work. For all this consolidating (talks) why is Wilbur making his office a command center, with dispatch type equipment? When everyone has to have their own equipment/dispatch then more problems occur. Seems like we need someone in a position that takes the lead and says what everyone needs to do, witch starts by working together, sharing informations and helping one another.

[911 issues]

MG RES wrote:

I think the commissioners should go to every dispatch location and watch what they do for a short time. And just see how each one is set up, IE someone call the Dispatch on a "mock call" just so they see whats done. go to IPD< CPD<CPD<CPD<SO North,South. To that I think they should show everyone who is interested in it. Open it up to the public one day and tour the county to see it in operation. And see if they think any consolidation could take place.

im sure as a taxpayer, they would accomidate you on that. not sure what you would encounter at the SO if you asked though.

[GO PARKER]

911 issues wrote:

I was pleased to read the article in the Independence Reporter about IPD Chief Parker inviting officials to visit and observe the 911 dispatch center in Independence. Commissioner Lewark-Wood had said during Monday's Commission meeting that she understood calls were not being rolled over to the Sheriff's office, a false comment that Parker took exception with.
I can only imagine where the eronious information told to Commissioner Lewark-Wood came from, but it's only speculation.
Kudos to IPD Chief Parker for speaking up and saying "come see for yourself"!

Mr. Parker has always come across as a very honest, up front person. That is the approach of someone that doesn't have anything to hide. Unlike the Sheriff who is now trying to cover his tracks! NOT WORKING STAN!! We can all see right through you.

[MG RES]

It would be something to see, but I think those who hold the power to make the decision on a central system should at least look at whats in place now and be educated on whats going on. Its bad that they don't know much about it and the ones going to them are filling them full of crap so the commissioners then are dumbfounded and become one sided

[hes what]

911 how can I help wrote:

We are a small county and don't know why everyone just can't work together. I am open for a 911 center and they way it is now, someone needs to look at the benefits of each one and then decided. But coming out of the blue makes no since. I could see where SO could do Caney and Cherryvale it would only seem to me that those two towns are spending a lot of money for personnel and equipment. But for SO to do anything they need STAFF one in dispatch won't work. For all this consolidating (talks) why is Wilbur making his office a command center, with dispatch type equipment? When everyone has to have their own equipment/dispatch then more problems occur. Seems like we need someone in a position that takes the lead and says what everyone needs to do, witch starts by working together, sharing informations and helping one another.

Are you saying Wilbur is making a dispatch too? I heard that the commissioners had all had their fill of that fool and were about to terminate him, hell he has almost everybody hes come in contact with mad at him, I cant figure why he isnt gone yet, why dont the commissioners audit his books?

[911 how can I help]

MOMMY, thats why. what he wants he can get, doesn't need to answers any questions. MOMMIES got his back or he's hiding behind mommas back. Yeah the commissioners seemed like the boot was coming I guess CSS must of threatened them with some dirt she's got on em, theres no reason why our tax dollars are being wasted on that piece of work. I also thought the job required the person to be available pretty much 24-7 but he's always out of town how could he be available running the mail route? two jobs, shouldn't be allowed for that type of position.
Yeah wilburs in command with his dispatch center in his office.

[hes what]

911 how can I help wrote:

MOMMY, thats why. what he wants he can get, doesn't need to answers any questions. MOMMIES got his back or he's hiding behind mommas back. Yeah the commissioners seemed like the boot was coming I guess CSS must of threatened them with some dirt she's got on em, theres no reason why our tax dollars are being wasted on that piece of work. I also thought the job required the person to be available pretty much 24-7 but he's always out of town how could he be available running the mail route? two jobs, shouldn't be allowed for that type of position.
Yeah wilburs in command with his dispatch center in his office.

Wilbur delivers mail too?? Sounds like someone does need to run against Charlotte and win, maybe she'll start a consulting business, and hire the whole family to advise the county as consultants, charging twice as much as the combined over $100,000.00 a year they make from our tax dollars now! What does wilbur need with a command center, hes a coordinator right?? Isnt his job to make sure fire trucks are maintained and the bills are paid every month?? Sounds like he wants to be a Chief too, even the former coordinator didnt act like a chief. Charlotte will probably save him from the chopping block again, how lucky for us.

[Wheres the BEEF]

It is very interesting to read and only guess the quality of people we have voicing their opinion. There are definitely some issues going on in our county and some things need to change. Come on folks are we so backwards and uneducated that we have to stoop to this level. I had a friend from another state email me ablout this blog, I was shocked at the level of dumpster diving you all are doing. I grew up in this area and I would like to hear from people who have had real experience within the legal system here. It sound to me like the employees who have a dog in the hunt are filling this thing with garbage. There might be bits of truth, but you are putting more doubt in peoples minds about your own disgruntlement that about any really wrong doing by the people you are trying to discredit. I did find a copy of a letter to the editor about the mistreatment of a man and his family in reference to the attended death of his father, and I can believe that this family really had a legimitate complaint. I also looked and looked through old newspapers for anything on the death in the jail, only found a small article that it was being investigated, no outcome appeared to be published. I think that if you are really dissatisfied with the status quo, then drop the personal videtta talk and get down to the facts. It also appears that there could be some truth about the local news reporters covering or just not reporting on misconduct at the county lawenforcement level. If you look back before the current sheriff took office it appears that we had lots of news from or about the sheriff department. We were better informed, what happened that we changed how we report things in the local papers. I understand that the Coffeyville paper sold, but what about the Reporter? The opinions raise a lot of questions, how about some real investigative reports with facts not garbage. As for a central dispatch center, what about a feasibility study and who says that it would have to be operated by the sheriff department. Other counties in Kansas have central dispatch centers are they all ran by sheriffs, or could they be operated by boards from the various jurisdictions that they support. But, then in Montgomery County we have to do things different, with 2 community colleges, 2 court houses, and then all the other services moved to Independenc. So why not 5 dispatch centers? Why don't you folks try some constructive criticism and it would get a more positive response. Destroyng someones life with half truths and things that you can not prove only show your ignorance and mean spirit.