Police searches at Illinois truck stop spark questions

Dec 29, 2007 Full story: www.landlinemag.com 58

Police searches at Illinois truck stop spark questions For three weeks, John Herrmann has heard questions from truckers worried about whether they should park at his truck stop for the night.

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“Life is just a Moment, njoy it”

Since: Jan 07

Nekoosa, Wisconsin

#41 Aug 30, 2008
PS, If you want to know about Police searches at truckstops? Ask the Illinois Attorney General LISA MADIGAN........www.lisamadigan .org
Or Lisamadigan@knowledgemessenger .com

“Life is just a Moment, njoy it”

Since: Jan 07

Nekoosa, Wisconsin

#42 Aug 30, 2008
Or Lisamadigan.com

The State Police do not answer E-Mails.

“Trucking Is Not A Job-Its Life”

Since: Jun 07

Richmond / Colonial Heights,VA

#43 Aug 30, 2008
If they don't answer questions then why do they have an E-Mail address for general Questions?

For general questions, you may contact the Illinois State Police at the following email address:
askisp@isp.state.il.us

Since: Aug 08

Clinton, MO

#44 Aug 30, 2008
I got an idea, instead of blaming someone else for your own lack of intestinal fortitude how 'bout "sacking up" and standing up for your rights. Lets see, your're legally parked on private property getting harrassed by the cops and you don't tell them to take a hike? Too many drivers seem to be willing to drop 'trow instead of making a personal stand for their individual rights and Constitutional protections. Then you want to scapegoat someone else for what you fail to do?

In the early 90's Utah and Neb. participated in a random drug testing study of drivers. Lots of you volunteered like sheep instead of standing up for yourselves. I refused and got threatened with jail...big deal...it was just a threat, a ruse to get your voluntary compliance. To my way of thinking, if you are ignorant of your rights or better yet too affraid to stand-up for your own rights-don't come crying to me.

Cops get away with this crap because too many drivers bend over and refuse act like free men. No probable cause, no warrant...think I'd go back to sleep. Arrest me and I just hit the lottery.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#45 Aug 30, 2008
lol figures.
TANGLEFOOT wrote:
Maximise your talents by using them to the best of your ability, The Temporary Agency's has alot of good work if anyone's looking for good paying local work, Companies are now going through them because they don't have to do the background checks, So the temp agency's are looking for Quality Workers, Once you get on the list you can work anywhere, I have Companies requesting me, like Saia, Scwarz paper, Solo Cup, Supreme Lobster, I'm driving the 'Spotter at KEHE Foods' in Romeoville right now it's great......My favorite is delivering the forklift's and Roll trucks, You drive a flat bed tow truck, Wrench them on at the shop and deliver them to the Customers, Pick-up the broken ones and bring to the shop, I LOVE THIS ONE....But I can only get in for Vacations and sick-days, No one quits this one.
Oh, when you drive a truck your truck can be searched anytime without cause........Best thing if you're pulled over or happen to be a suspect, keep your mouth shut and don't park at trashy truck stops where you could become a victim!!!!!
Just a little 'MANLY' advise!!!!!!!!!

Since: Aug 08

Clinton, MO

#46 Aug 30, 2008
"Oh, when you drive a truck your truck can be searched anytime without cause........Best thing if you're pulled over or happen to be a suspect, keep your mouth shut and don't park at trashy truck stops where you could become a victim!!!!!
Just a little 'MANLY' advise!!!!!!!!!"

Thanks for proving my point about both ignorance of the law and your "bend over the tank frank" attitude towards standing up for your rights. A complete interior search of your truck without probable cause or warrant is illegal in most states. Parked on private property? Better yet. Pull a Nancy Reagan and "just say NO." But that would take personal courage and conviction...sounds lacking in your "Manly advise."

“Life is just a Moment, njoy it”

Since: Jan 07

Nekoosa, Wisconsin

#47 Aug 30, 2008
Look around and listen, Truckers are well known for sticking together and agreeing with one another, Who would dare to screw over a trucker,
Just check out how many Policticians go out of their way to help and protect truckers, CB-19 WOW there's an excellent place to listen to how truckers all help each other and stick together.
They all do the same job but you can't find 2 that will agree the sky is blue.
They all seem to have something to prove, I guess their wounded ego's and being alone can really prevent a person from thinking and conversating in a normal way........You can see why truckers are the most hated people, they only know how to respond with hurtful comments and 'RAGE'!!
That's what they spend 70hrs a week dealing with,
'ROAD-RAGE' and CB-19 RAGE.
Keep up the good work guys, Somebody will invest in our interest in about 40 years.

“Life is just a Moment, njoy it”

Since: Jan 07

Nekoosa, Wisconsin

#48 Aug 30, 2008
Ok, E-mailing S/P to ask if I can get my Speedometer Calibrated to meet State requirements
at a State Scale?
Eric

United States

#49 Sep 10, 2008
I try to avoid the scales. Not overweight or anything, sick and tired of being hasseled and delayed for no reason.
Midnightrider

Elgin, IL

#51 Sep 12, 2008
TANGLEFOOT wrote:
PS, If you want to know about Police searches at truckstops? Ask the Illinois Attorney General LISA MADIGAN........www.lisamadigan .org
Or Lisamadigan@knowledgemessenger .com
She don't have any pull with the feds. DOT, DEA, Homeland Security, are all federal. She might have an answer about locals "assisting" the feds, but I heard they are under FEDERAL rules at those times.

“Life is just a Moment, njoy it”

Since: Jan 07

Nekoosa, Wisconsin

#52 Sep 12, 2008
Midnightrider wrote:
<quoted text>She don't have any pull with the feds. DOT, DEA, Homeland Security, are all federal. She might have an answer about locals "assisting" the feds, but I heard they are under FEDERAL rules at those times.
Oh ok, I stand corrected.....Thanks

“Trucking Is Not A Job-Its Life”

Since: Jun 07

Richmond / Colonial Heights,VA

#53 Sep 13, 2008
but the question is were they DEA or local cops saying they were DEA. the article says "when a detail of Effingham County-area law enforcement officers woke several drivers by saying “DEA” and asking to see the inside of their cabs." it never said actual DEA was there.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#54 Sep 13, 2008
I think they should spend a little time on surveillance and target the ones who are suspicious instead of waking drivers up at random. We are such an easy target to begin with, how about those boys do a little work and really do something constructive?
Long Haul Driver wrote:
but the question is were they DEA or local cops saying they were DEA. the article says "when a detail of Effingham County-area law enforcement officers woke several drivers by saying “DEA” and asking to see the inside of their cabs." it never said actual DEA was there.

“Trucking Is Not A Job-Its Life”

Since: Jun 07

Richmond / Colonial Heights,VA

#55 Sep 13, 2008
Why actually do surveillance it is easier to mass harass drivers while they sleep.

“Argh, Shiver me Timbers”

Since: Sep 08

Locust Grove, VA

#56 Sep 13, 2008
Long Haul Driver wrote:
"when a detail of Effingham County-area law enforcement officers woke several drivers by saying “DEA” and asking to see the inside of their cabs."
The article does not say that Federal authorities took part, all the story says that it was Effingham County-area law enforcement officers saying they were “DEA” and asking to see the inside of their cabs. the question is were there "DEA" officers there with warrants or was it local cops with no warrants overstepping their authority.
Legally speaking, you can demand ID of those claiming to be law enforcement, if they did claim to be DEA, I would have gathered the badge numbers and reported the impersonation of DEA agents by the locals. But they could have confused DEA, with DTF, but any police officer can be a Drug Enforcement Officer, depending on how you look at it. Without probable cause I don't think they could search you, but, someone made the statement about being on private property, no that is incorrect, you were on a public accessible area. Now if for example you were parked on a private residence or other that would be a different story.

“Argh, Shiver me Timbers”

Since: Sep 08

Locust Grove, VA

#57 Sep 13, 2008
Also someone mentioned that they didn't see any mention of DEA, well..

"According to Kendal Balding, police chief in Altamont, IL, his officers and other police officers from the area began inspecting trucks after 6 a.m. in conjunction with the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Department of Homeland Security."
Illinois driver

Melrose Park, IL

#58 Sep 28, 2008
Finish the fence, make illegal crossing a "never allowed in again, ever" for the second offence. Check status of people crossing border from the US to Mexico. Write them up and let them continue, but that counts as the first offence. Limit Mexican trucks to the Commercial Zones. Limit all new US CDLs to US citizens, or green cards who have served in the US military. Reassign some of the truck inspectors to random checks of cars for drivers license and insurance. If they are illegals with no license, the driver should be deported for committing a crime, and the vehicle forfeited. When word of it goes around, they will stop driving, and get rides from legal insured drivers. This will do more for safety then most of the nitpick tickets written to US CDL drivers. Stop the Mexican trucks!
dlizardking

Mattoon, IL

#59 Apr 9, 2009
Long Haul Driver wrote:
I sent an E-mail message to the Illinois state police asking what the Illinois state law is in regards to searching commercial trucks on private property such as a truck stop. do they need a search warrant or can they do it with property owner permission.
or can they search commercial trucks anyplace with out probable cause.
The fourth amendment does not cover anything on wheels this is an exception that is up to the cops discretion or lack of usually!

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