Police searches at Illinois truck sto...

Police searches at Illinois truck stop spark questions

There are 58 comments on the www.landlinemag.com story from Dec 29, 2007, titled Police searches at Illinois truck stop spark questions . In it, www.landlinemag.com reports that:

Police searches at Illinois truck stop spark questions For three weeks, John Herrmann has heard questions from truckers worried about whether they should park at his truck stop for the night.

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biGGest LoSER

Brussels, IL

#1 Jan 1, 2008
Thank you prez Bush!
biGGest LoSER

Brussels, IL

#2 Jan 1, 2008
Homeland Security,searching sleeping truckers. You lame dick bums can't do jack shit at the borders and ports but you harrass truckers sleeping in their trucks,maybe they was looking for their mother,wives or daughters.

Since: May 07

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#3 Jan 2, 2008
And if believe that the flying J manger did not know they where there? Well I guess your not smarter than a 5th grader. Of course they new they and all truck stop mangers new they are there, This is there way of saying to drivers so they do not lose Butts and going out of buieness, they need the drivers money so all of a sudden they do not finding no one fueling up and eating there over priced food, and they have to put the For sale sign up on the front door.
nightrider

Delano, MN

#4 Jan 2, 2008
Where was this done at, Effingham, USSR
Another reason to not even look out the window if someone knocks on your door. It's either a cop or a hooker.

“Trucking Is Not A Job-Its Life”

Since: Jun 07

Richmond / Colonial Heights,VA

#5 Jan 2, 2008
You are 100% right there is no way he did not know, but of he plays stupid then he thinks he will not lose buisness. but I bet he is going to find that is not going to be the case. as soon as the word spreads, he will see a drop in buisness at least for a short while.
Tuvok wrote:
And if believe that the flying J manger did not know they where there? Well I guess your not smarter than a 5th grader. Of course they new they and all truck stop mangers new they are there, This is there way of saying to drivers so they do not lose Butts and going out of buieness, they need the drivers money so all of a sudden they do not finding no one fueling up and eating there over priced food, and they have to put the For sale sign up on the front door.

Since: May 07

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#6 Jan 2, 2008
Long Haul Driver wrote:
You are 100% right there is no way he did not know, but of he plays stupid then he thinks he will not lose buisness. but I bet he is going to find that is not going to be the case. as soon as the word spreads, he will see a drop in buisness at least for a short while. <quoted text>
Yep Most Drivers have a short memory now days like most Americans! If it does not effect me I do not care! They will go back into the truck stop to sleep and then they will be in there to eat and then fuel and before you know things will be back to the Norm. Thats is why I Never got up and looked out my window when I was sleeping for any reason. Who ever was knocking they could knock all night, I left a peep hole to see who there, I had wrap around curtains in my Cab so I could see still out but did not have get up to see out my window. I figure if you get up and answer the door you get what you deserve. I mean what are they going to do without a warrent break the window! I do not think so.
meea

Louisville, KY

#7 Jul 22, 2008
I am not a truck driver but I think that bothering truck drivers when asleep is wrong.
Thank you to all truck drivers that bring us all things to live.
GOd Bless.
JFCTRUCKER

Ogden, UT

#8 Aug 1, 2008
Remember, when you are stopped and off the traveled portion of the highway ie truckstops rest areas warehouses and such the police need a warrant or probable cause to search your truck. The usual excuses that they use while your driving such as weaving withen your own lane can't be used in this situation. You can and should say no to any search. I have nothing bad happened to me.

Since: Sep 07

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#9 Aug 3, 2008
Why would the manager know? He was busy doing his job. I'm sure he does a quick look over his lot once in a while. The interview with the State Patrol backs the Managers statement.
It's the Bush Patrol in conjunction with the local cops that committed the act.

Since: Apr 07

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#10 Aug 3, 2008
I did a search and found that cmv's can be searched while being operated. I have yet to find anything about when they are stopped. I will keep looking but if anyone knows any case laws or such please post them.
JFCTRUCKER wrote:
Remember, when you are stopped and off the traveled portion of the highway ie truckstops rest areas warehouses and such the police need a warrant or probable cause to search your truck. The usual excuses that they use while your driving such as weaving withen your own lane can't be used in this situation. You can and should say no to any search. I have nothing bad happened to me.

“Trucking Is Not A Job-Its Life”

Since: Jun 07

Richmond / Colonial Heights,VA

#11 Aug 3, 2008
I sent an E-mail message to the Illinois state police asking what the Illinois state law is in regards to searching commercial trucks on private property such as a truck stop. do they need a search warrant or can they do it with property owner permission.
or can they search commercial trucks anyplace with out probable cause.

Since: Apr 07

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#12 Aug 3, 2008
Good job. Let me/us know what/if they reply.
Long Haul Driver wrote:
I sent an E-mail message to the Illinois state police asking what the Illinois state law is in regards to searching commercial trucks on private property such as a truck stop. do they need a search warrant or can they do it with property owner permission.
or can they search commercial trucks anyplace with out probable cause.
Midnightrider

Geneva, IL

#13 Aug 4, 2008
Long Haul Driver wrote:
I sent an E-mail message to the Illinois state police asking what the Illinois state law is in regards to searching commercial trucks on private property such as a truck stop. do they need a search warrant or can they do it with property owner permission.
or can they search commercial trucks anyplace with out probable cause.
I don't know, and I live in Illinois. I do know FEDERAL law enforcement has their own rules and are not subject to any Illinois limitations. I don't know about locals "helping" federal agencies, if they are temporarily under federal law or not. It sounds like they were looking for someone or something specific, but you never know. It might have been a filming of "Barney Fifes gone wild". Law enforcement in Illinois is turning into revenue source instead of Public safety. Illinois state police used to get along with truckers much better then they do now. Maybe it is a reflection of the new drivers they now are encountering. Many American drivers in Illinois are losing respect for law enforcement due to their refusal to enforce or refer to ICE when they encounter illegals, yet they go out of their way to write expensive "chicken-sh!t tickets" to truckers.

“Trucking Is Not A Job-Its Life”

Since: Jun 07

Richmond / Colonial Heights,VA

#14 Aug 4, 2008
"when a detail of Effingham County-area law enforcement officers woke several drivers by saying “DEA” and asking to see the inside of their cabs."

The article does not say that Federal authorities took part, all the story says that it was Effingham County-area law enforcement officers saying they were “DEA” and asking to see the inside of their cabs. the question is were there "DEA" officers there with warrants or was it local cops with no warrants overstepping their authority.
G Wet_back Bush

Jerseyville, IL

#15 Aug 4, 2008
Thank me for the Mexican Trucker invasion and vote for McBama!

Since: Sep 07

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#16 Aug 4, 2008
G Wet_back Bush wrote:
Thank me for the Mexican Trucker invasion and vote for McBama!
Funny, that is the only issue I have seen Americans agree on in recent history. They practiced their rights as Americans and actually scared the Congress into taking action against the Administrations attempt to push it down our throats.I wonder how that case in the court worked out? If only people paid more attention..........
Midnightrider

Geneva, IL

#17 Aug 5, 2008
Long Haul Driver wrote:
"when a detail of Effingham County-area law enforcement officers woke several drivers by saying “DEA” and asking to see the inside of their cabs."
The article does not say that Federal authorities took part, all the story says that it was Effingham County-area law enforcement officers saying they were “DEA” and asking to see the inside of their cabs. the question is were there "DEA" officers there with warrants or was it local cops with no warrants overstepping their authority.
Thinking about it, if they had warrants, they would not have "asked" to searched, they would have yelled something like "we HAVE a search warrant, get out and lean against the truck while we search you and the truck! If you resist we will arrest you! Probably some local commander trying to make a name for himself, get a promotion, justify their budget or whatever. I guess they don't worry about overstepping their authority. What recourse would there be? If you give them too hard of a time, they could inspect and inspect and inspect until they find something to write a ticket for.

“Trucking Is Not A Job-Its Life”

Since: Jun 07

Richmond / Colonial Heights,VA

#18 Aug 5, 2008
Well the recourse could have been or could be a law suit for harassment and illegal search. if they do in fact consider the truck stop as private property and the owner/manager did not know they were doing it as he claims. with no warrants, that could be considered an illegal search and harassment.
Eric

United States

#19 Aug 10, 2008
Where is OOIDA on this?

“Trucking Is Not A Job-Its Life”

Since: Jun 07

Richmond / Colonial Heights,VA

#20 Aug 10, 2008
sleeping on the job.

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